SF 180 would solve all of this nonsense. But Kerry steadfastly refuses to fill it out. Why? He MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE!!! Regardless of the service record, the medals, the total lack of respect with his comrades...Kerry should be disqualified from the position of CINC due simply to his actions after leaving Vietnam. What he did to those men still serving, not to mention those in prison camps, is nothing short of criminal. John Kerry is a traitor who does not deserve to breathe the free air of this great country he spit on.

Interesting that Kerry comes up with the skipper of another boat to bolster his story - but if the skipper was in the other boat, how can he know?

Okay, first off, not only did another guy come out against the Swiftys, but the guy that Kerry pulled out of the water vouches for him as well.

The Swiftys also say that Kerry fled. Apparently, they didn't read the report that they have posted on the website, and I doubt you did, either. If you read all of the reports, which there are many (what reports do you feel are hidden that you need to see?), you'll see how true he was to his country.

Read about how he got his medals, before you bash him. The guy risked his life for this country, and if he chooses to come out against the war that he served in, which is his right (at least, I believe that we have a freedom of speech in this country), you've a problem with that? Also, what he's quoted as saying were quotes from other veterans against the war from a convention in Detroit.

You think he's a pussy? Read the report of how he got his silver star. At an ambush on the river while being shot at, Kerry jumped ashore and chased down a VC with a rocket launcher and killed him.

Why hold a grudge against him for being against the war, anyhow? We eventually decided to pull our troops out. Seems like he was on the right track. Do you wanna go back to 'Nam or somethin'?

And speaking of 'Nam...if you're so for the cause of American being in 'Nam, how can you be against the poor and ignorant of this country? We went there for democracy, an ideal, to help those that are poor and ignorant of our glorious system.

You're willing to kill for the poor and ignorant, but come back here, and you speak as if you want to let them rot. Just seems a bit of a contradiction. Care to explain?

1. It is 250 to 3. 250 say he was a coward, 3 (including himself) say he was a hero. Need I remind you that he does not simply say he served honorably, he states that he was a war hero.

2. I read his own after action report. His lies arent worth the paper they are written on.

3. He recklessly beached his boat-beached his freaking boat!-and chased down an unarmed VC in PJ's. First of all, he put his men in danger when he took away the manuverability of his boat. Second of all, he killed an unarmed VC running away. That is not above and beyond the call of duty. If every brave man fighting in Vietnam had recieved a silver star for every VC they KIA'd, the medal would lose its distinction. Much like he tried with the Purple Heart.

4. I have no desire to go back to Vietnam. My problem is not his opposition to the war, my problem is the fashion in which he expressed this opposition. Consorting with the enemy in Paris while our troops were still in harms way? How can any soldier with a concience march on Washington protesting a war while his comrades are still fighting for their lives in prison camps. He is a disgrace to the uniform.

5. I am not against the poor and ignorant in this country. I am against the lazy in this country who want everything handed to them. I was not born with very much money in my family, but between my grandfather, my father and myself I have been to college and hold a good job, as did my father before me. When you use the term "glorious system," I can only assume sarcastically, are you suggesting that democracy isnt the right system? Good luck expressing your dissenting views in the former Soviet Union, or in Red China. They love people who speak out agaisnt the government, you liberal moron. I never spoke as though I wanted the poor and ignorant in this country or in Vietnam or anywhere else for that matter to rot. Stop putting words into my mouth and accept the fact that you are wrong.

Bo:
1.)Kerry is truly a war hero. Just ask the Vietnam gummit. They have a shrine for him in Hanoi at their war museum. Kerry is considered a hero in the cause to advance communism throughout southeast Asia. It is a fact that he is honored by them in this museum.
2.)Also,what about the pow's who suffered because of his vile testimony in 1971. Before you mention John McCain, he blasted Kerry in a local Arizona rag upon his return to the US. The NVA used Kerry's testimony over the PA systems of prison camps to humiliate the brave US fliers who would be tortured. They used Kerry's own words as justification for the torture.
3.)There is no reporter in the mainstream liberal media who would broach this subject. Kerry is scum. Every Nam vet I know consider him more of a traitor than Hanoi Jane.
4.) Do you have anymore union/dnc talking pionts you want destroyed? There are some fine people who post here that would welcome your rhetoric as they tear it apart.

Sometimes I get more of a kick out of reading the comments in your journal than I do reading your journal itself. ;) No offense...

Oy, you people are utterly hopeless and I am a total dickhead, not to mention being a total loser.

Who did you think the "lazy" are, anyhow? Have you ever gotten to know someone that you felt was "lazy"? I knew a guy, his parents were crackheads. "Lazy" crackheads by your measure, for sure. And what role model does he have? The punks in his neighborhood? Who's to teach him a strong work ethic? He's a good guy, and means no one any harm, and only tries to do good. He works when he can, but no one's really to blame but his station in life. You'd really like to keep calling him "lazy"? He had a child, because he fucks and was indoctrinated with a religion that believes it a sin to kill an unborn child. Some people don't know any better. You may have not had much money growing up, but you're white, for sure. The mere fact that you went to college screams that you have had physical and intellectual advantages over a great many people.

"My family was lower middle class."...Waaah! At least you were in the middle, bitch.

"My father's drinking problem got worse in the middle 50's and that is when my mother had to go to work to help support the family."...Waaah! At least your parents were married. Ooh, a drinking problem, how quaint. Mommy had to work, eh? Sob.

"I was poorer than my friends."...Boo fucking who. Try having friends that are richer than you and they don't have shit.

You'd really like to believe that you know how the poor and ignorant have it, wouldn't you? You've been there, haven't you, you great exaggerator, you?

"I made mostly A's and a few B's. It had nothing to do with me studying. It was all luck. "...You'd like to pretend that understanding what good study skills are is inherent in you're being, wouldn't you? I'm sure mommy and daddy at some daily talking with you told you repeatedly how to do well in school, and some of it sunk in. Oh, but the parents that raised you, that wasn't luck, was it? You chose them, didn't you? Good decision on your part. Or maybe it wasn't mommy and daddy. Maybe it was the school system that supported your dumb white ass.

I'm a cripple...waaah! My wounds need to have stood for something...waaah! You were a tool for an unworthy cause in 'Nam, and you're a tool for not realizing it and still supporting the remaining whining bitches that wanted it to mean something then, now. You're a manipulated jackass, and your existence reaffirms my understanding of what real ignorance is. You really think you know something. What a shame. I wish you chose your parents to be poor Indian opium addicts. See how well you'd do, then.

Nurture vs. Nature, motherfucker. You can be sure that Nurture kicks Nature's ass ever time, when you try to raise somebody ass-backwards in a shithole.

Go ahead, call me a liberal. It's true, I'm pro-abortion, so that people like you don't procreate and teach children to behave like their parents. And yes, I want yours and my money redistributed amongst the poor, "lazy" lower ignorant class. Y'know what, socialized health care wouldn't be so bad, either...poor people aren't notoriously good at saving money...takes money to make money. I'd sure like a seperation of church and state, too. I don't need our money being redistributed to any religious organizations, to help a select group of people to be indoctrinated, as you surely have been.

You wanna know what lazy is? Lazy is having the advantages you've had, and joining the Navy to let Uncle Sam take care of you. Lazy is knowing how to study, but failing out of junior college. Lazy is having money, and wanting to keep it as a nest egg for yourself instead of giving it to those that need it. Keep working, bitch. There's plenty of people that still need your help. When was the last time you built someone a home? When was the last time you did anything for anyone, besides propogate your selfish banter?

You want my money to redistribute to the lazy poor like yourself there Bo? Tell ya what, champ. Grow some balls, show up at my door and try to take it. Or are you too scared to do that? You want the government to do for you what you're too gutless to do for yourself.

Typical leftist fucking pussy.

You're so true to your virtues, but you give a bull-shit email address. Laughable...

Your post is full of empty-headed, racist, bitter drivel, and it made me sick.

You want to know who I consider the "lazy" to be ? Lets see:

1.) Vociferously refuses to hold someone accountable for his actions. "His parents were crackheads". My best friend's parents were heroin addicts, and his dad tricked his mom out so they could both stay in their clouded glory. He raised his little sister pretty much by himself, he put HIMSELF through college, worked his ass off to put his sister through college, and both of them are doing very well now. The difference between him and you is he refused to use his miserable-ass upbringing as an excuse to not help pull the wagon...whereas you would rather ride in the wagon and find somebody else to blame for it.

2. Displays a horse-shit sense of sympathy, more for his own gain. Your slobber was all about anybody who is white and had it better than anyone else around him, must have been lucky. You're harping on and on about your perceived "reasons" for being lower-class, like you're some kind of compassionate; yet, you mock the GOC's determination in making a life for himself at a disadvantage. So, you had a sorry upbringing, and you're not white, so you're more at a disadvantage than someone else who's in a wheelchair ?

3. Doesn't want to do the work, but expects to share in the spoils. "Lazy is having money, and wanting to keep it as a nest egg for yourself instead of giving it to those that need it."
Where the hell do you think MOST people who "have" money get it ? They work for it!!! Like the story of the ant and the grasshopper.
Again, you're riding in the wagon, I'm pulling the wagon. Is your leg broken ? Do you have the flu ? No ? Then get the hell out and help me pull it for a while. No, you won't, but it's not because you're lazy, it's somehow, somebody else's fault. And if I'm the one busting my ass to make a living, but have to give up 1/3 of it to support someone else, why can't I decide who "needs" it ? If that's the case Bo, I'm going to quit my job and bring my family over to your house - oops, your chicken-shit ass posted a fake email address...which tells me you'd rather not be exposed for the real piece of shit that I think you are.

Anyway, I believe the "lazy" to be someone who fits the 3 descriptions above. Based on that, go look in a mirror, and you'll see exactly who I consider the "lazy" to be.

Leftists sure are potty-mouthed. Like angry teenagers who forgot to grow up.

Bo: A loser. This is the face of the Dimocrat Party. Robin, I hope you are proud of your fellow traveller. I would have edited his comments, but they show just how full of shit he is so I left them as is so we could all laugh at him. Amazing! And, of course he is so prould of himself he posts an honest to God real email adress. A real loser!

You really think I'm interested enough to answer hate mail? Not likely. You have something you want to say to me? Tough titty.

Did I say that it was *I* that had crackhead parents? I don't remember writing that. Did I say I wasn't white? I don't remember saying that, either. Did I claim to have disadvantages? It's just a matter of perspective. I'd rival my upbringing to the host here's, save I don't consider it a disadvantage. I'd say I *was* quite lucky to have people around me to teach me the necessities. Did I even say I was a democrat?

Who said *I* was lazy? Sure, call me what you want, but I work hard, and am willing to pay the government more for those less fortunate than I. And no, I don't want to fight you for the money. But I will try to convince others that it's best that we all pay more to help. Like you, I pull the wagon. Except I'm not complaining about it. Increase the load, for all I care. Take my car, maybe it'll end urban sprawl forcing towns to build up instead of out, so that we can use their feet and work off a few pounds. Take my home, I've got too much space as it is. Take my food, it's too rich. I'm the average American, and I'm overpaid, undereducated, and super-sized. But then again, everything's relative.

I'm guessing your absolute standards go along pretty well with your absolute morality, given to you by your absolutely supreme being.

And no, I wasn't mocking his "determination in making a life for himself at a disadvantage". I was pointing out that he had all the advantages one needs in America so as to be held responsible for his actions, such as knowing how to study, and yet still fails junior college.

My point was not that all of the poor and ignorant are hopeless. Some just need a boost to allow them to be functional citizens so that they're not on the dole forever.

"liberal moron"
"accept the fact that you are wrong"
"total dickhead, not to mention being a total loser"
"lazy poor like yourself there"
"gutless"
"Typical leftist fucking pussy"
"empty-headed, racist, bitter"
"you're riding in the wagon"
"you're lazy"
"chicken-shit ass"
"real piece of shit"
"potty-mouthed"
"angry teenager"
"loser"
"face of the Dimocrat Party"
"full of shit"
"prould of himself"
"A real loser!"

Sticks and stones, sweethearts.

I'm done defending myself. I'm tired of it. Is everything ad homonym with you people? Can't one post a philosophical notion without the person being attacked? If you look at the base of this, it is, like I said above, your classic Nature vs. Nurture. But not a single one of you touched that one, eh? It must be your destiny that you've been given advantages in life. Have you ever considered giving a bum money, even though you knew he'd blow it all on abusing some substance? Do you really think he/she's lazy? Have you ever spoken to a bum? Do you really care that much about your money?

Let's all drive our SUV's into the city, and get some McDonald's drive-through while complaining about gas prices.

Woah, woah, frigging WOAH!

As I read and understand the comments posted, am I given to understand that we are not going to die one day? Am I to accept that a Jaguar (or anything Japanese) today will mean squat in the great By-and bye?

Let me ask you: is Life more timeless than Death?

I didn't want to get in on this argument, but I detect something that somehow indicates that toys today somehow trump the reality that death is longer-lasting than MPG today.

I dunno if you will agree or not, but death lasts for far more longer than life as we know it. That's just my experience.

Are we to then state that more stuff is the indicator of a better life?

I dunno about y'all, but I'm fairly certain we can't take material-stuff with us; aside from a Pharoah in his pyramid, I'm of the assumption that we take with us to Eternity those glad & happy thoughts which rise from the actions we had occasion to actually 'do' while we once had 'life'.

Of course, such won't get one laid as much as one would like, but it is worth at least considering when one forms a political opinion.

Life either matters or life is a cosmic-joke:

Vote as you see fit.

Booger - You obviously think I was wallowing in self pity, which I wasn't. I was pointing out that life has choices. You were somehow able to completely miss the entire point of the post. Yes, I'm white. Ya wanna see a black guy who made it?

And saying that I joined the Navy (during wartime) to have the gummint take care of me has to rank as one of the most idiotic things that has ever been posted in the comments on this site. There's an idea. Why don't you have your crackhead friend join the military so they can take care of him?

If you think that you are undertaxed I have just three words for you "Write a check." Go ahead. Give all of your money to the gummint. There's nothing to stop you.

I didn't get your point. I'm just an idiot. I can't write a check because I'm a loser who doesn't have any money. That's why I want yours.

Please, call me more names. Tell me what I jerk I really am.

Snot:

"Did I even say I was a democrat?"

You're joking, right? With the political positions you've taken:

1. you're a democrat; or
2. you're a socialist (only difference is degrees); or
3. you don't really believe in those stances.

And if you wanna help out the poor, downtrodden, whoever, and are willing to give up your car, or money, or downsize your house, or whatever, go right ahead; just leave alone my car, my house and my money. Redistribute all you like, just redistribute your shit, not mine. Thats asking too much?

Daniel - Booger is your typical liberal/socialist troll. He's too stupid to have his own website so he leaves his troll droppings at sites run by conservatives. He's also a loser who is jealous of the success of others. That is why he wants to take our money.

Booger...aptly named.