Sounds like one of Russ Vaughn's pieces--I think he's a military fellow (Not sure of rank or branch, much to my embarassment...) who also happens to be an excellent poet. I've seen him at Doggerel Pundit's place a lot. Both of them are good reads and have wits you could shave with.

--TwoDragons

Hell, that's both funny and touching.

That just made my morning. I need a smoke after reading that! Thanks!

That's very good. Thanks for posting it.

Ummm, they don't get foreign aid, but they haven't paid back The Marshall Plan yet.

Spot On!

Ummm... You assholes do kow that without the french you wouldnt be a free country right?

And belive me, if you americans hate the french, dont worry, the rest of the world fucking hates you cocked up yankee scum ten fold

(And no, Im Not French)

*sniff sniff* You smell something...? A veritable bouquet of inferiority complex, nervous sweat, rabid anti-American froth, and bad dentistry--all hidden behind the comfort of Internet anonymity. Must be another troll around here. *yawn*

--TwoDragons

Some guy - Yep. We do know that. We repaid that debt in WWl and again in WWll and then we used American money to rebuild France and Germany so you can just fuck off with that lame argument.

The rest of the world may hate us but they sure do like our bluejeans, music, fast food and handouts. I don't give a flying fuck if you are French are not. I do know that you wouldn't make a pimple on an American's ass.

It's so sad to read such things. Can you compare the fisrt and the second world wars with war in Irak? On one Hand a war involving billions of people, in lots of countries, on 3 continents, on the other hand your president who wanted to kick the ass of Saddam to revenge daddy. Nothing to do with terrorism at the beginning.But now you have succeeded to attract muslim terrorists from the whole world to make the Djihad in Irak. You've got Saddam? Ok, good job! And now! What democracy for Irak? Maybe a muslim theocracy as in Iran? Maybe other wars against Syria, and Iran, and North Korea, and.. Thank you, we french, will have soon to be part of the war. The forth world war, and with you, and just because your president doesn't know a single word: diplomacy.

Jean-Philippe Dickhead - This is WWIV and it was declared on us 9/11. You pussy surrender monkeys think that your version of diplomacy (appeasement) will work with the terrorists. It didn't work with Germany and it won't work with radical Islam. Just like in the Cold War we will have to win without you because you are a bunch of simpering cowards. You'll hate us for winning this war, just like you hated the fact that we had to save you from the Germans in WWI and WWII. Fuck off you fucking pussy!

Ok Denny, I see what you mean and all you must know is to insult people who doesn't think like you. You have to learn history at first and perhaps you will understand something. French people knows more on their own and your own history than you ever know. You are an incult person and I'm glad to know it is not the case of many americans who take the time to think about before speaking. So go ahead if you want on french bashing, I know you're the very bad part of american people! But even for that,I don't hate you!

Dude - I'll match my knowledge of history, both French and United States, against yours any day. I do know that we had to save your sorry asses during WWI and WWII. Then we gave you money to rebuild your country. Did we get gratitude? Nope. Your country is no longer a world power and with your appeasement policies and your failing social welfare state, you will be a Third World nation in another 25 years.

Your country has actively opposed us in the War on Terror. Just like your appeasement policy toward Germany resulted in you being overrun by the Germans, your cowardice in dealing with Islamic radicals will lead to disaster also. And whom will you ask for help when that happens? That's right. It will be the country that you hate so much: the United States.

I really feel sorry for you pusies.

The French didn't help us during the American Revolution to help us, they did it to stick one to the hated British..... Besides, if you are counting who owes who let's not forget the French and Indian War on the Colonies, so, just maybe we can count the help in the Revolutionary war as a 'Sorry about that'.

The French gave the world the Left, the Terror, and the Guillotine, which lead STRAIGHT to Marxism, Fascism, and Islamism. Oh yes, let's not forget the Dreyfus Affair: Instituitional Antisemitism.

J-P L: I say "seal eggs" to you......

Well Rick T! Just that! I didn't notice Marx was a french. Fascists were Italiens with Mussolini if I remember, and their "sons" from "Ligue du Nord" are in the government of Berlusconi,you know! the guy who helps your president in Irak. And Islamism is much more your creation than our's. Who trained Ben Laden to fight against russians? from what country were the bloody guys who crashed in 09/11? you know! Saudi arabia, where you have some bases and lot of economical interests. We are not proud about guillotine, but we ended with death penality for 25 years. And you? And for Dreyfus, he has been rehabilited, and Emile Zola helped to that rehabilitation by a great campaign in l'Aurore, one of the famous daily news at that time. Do you really think you have not to blame yourself regarding Indians, blacks or spanish people?

Denny, try to do your best! I'm sure you will succeed to improve your bad language and turn it in a nice and polite way to make sentences.
About history now! You say deplomacy is cowardness. But remember that in WW1, your president M Wilson apply deplomacy for 3 years before USA entered the conflict. The war began in 1914 and your soldiers came in December 1917 on europeen soil. And french people is still grateful to them. You say french are cowards, but do you know we are the country that had the highest number of deads in WW1 regarding its global population. 40 millions in 1914, and 1,5 millions soldiers killed under fire. UK had 750 000. The germans, our enemys had 1,8 millions killed and Italiens 650 000. Your country entered the war because of the economic problems it encontered with the blocus by german navy, and the fact the germans sank several of your cargos. Even in 1915, when the germans sank the Lusitania, with 1200 persons on board and 128 american citizens, your country had protested but it was not enough to start in the conflict. In WW2 also, president Roosevelt was reluctant to enter the war, and helped himself with the "neutrality laws" voted by the congress in 1935. He waited 1941 in December, after Pearl Harbour, to declare the war to Japan, and Germany of Hitler who had signed a pact. In France the war started in 1939, killed 250 000 soldiers, and 350 000 civilians, until the liberation in 1945. Americans were on the french soil in june 1944, and lost 300 000 soldiers. And again, every french remember that with gratefuness. But that's not a reason to follow M Bush in any war on a foreign soil. You say you're in the WW4, and I don't agree with you. You have to fight terrorism. Ok, we do so, but not like you do. We also have experienced terrorism in France in the 90's. Bombs killing people in the tube in Paris or in the trains, or in the streets by car bombs. Remember when an Air France airbus has been hidjacked, our police enterveaned in Marseille airport, killing the five terrorists... and many other times we have been attacked. In France, several terrorists are in jail, and police is in connection with yours to exchange informations and experience. So, fight against terrorists is one thing, declare the war to lot of countries suspected to help terrorists is another. Or be consistent, start the war with Saudis!

"The war began in 1914 and your soldiers came in December 1917 on europeen soil. And french people is still grateful to them."

What color is the sky in your world, Jean-Phillppe?

J-P - "Who trained bin Laden to fight against the Russians?" Good question. It wasn't us. Bin Laden wasn't even in Afghanistan at that time. You've been listening to too many American liberals.

I did not say diplomacy was cowardice. Appeasement is which is what you French tried with Hitler. Didn't work did it? Neither did the Maginot Line, another French military success. Yep. Wilson did not want to get involved in any European wars. He wanted you dipsticks to fix your own problems. That wasn't diplomacy, that was isolationism. For someone who says he's good at history you're not doing too well so far.

Roosevelt wanted to stay out of WWII. He didn't want to get involved in another European war. But, he did do some stuff under the table before the war such as the Lend Lease program and economic boycotts of Japan. This is also history.

And I'll try to explain this one more time since you cannot seem to understand it. It's not that you didn't send troops. It's that Chirac actively opposed us. Had you guys stayed neutral it wouldn't have bothered us but you opposed us in the UN and Chirac went around the world trying to convince other leaders to oppose us. If you don't want to be on our side, at least get the fuck out of the way! The only purpose you could serve in Iraq would be to teach the insurgents how to surrender.

You are appeasing the Islamists because of your large Muslim population. Got some bad news for you. Your appeasement policies didn't work with Hitler and they won't work with the Islamists. They will just think you are weak, which is, after all, true.

There is undoubtedly a lot of truth in that poem. The French have been know to dance around a war in Iraq. But they also made a contribution to us that people tend to forget. They helped us gain our independence making us the country we are today. They funded our armies, gave us weapons to fight the british. Hell they teach that in American History, and it's true. I don't think there is any need to bash the French. Sure they are wrong not to help us but we've done the same thing to our other allies especially when there was nothing to gain or if our economy could get hurt, Bosnia/Hezergovenia, Greece, even Cuba(they wanted to be our allies till we turned our nose to them when Batista was in power, hence their becoming allies with Russia). Now I am not saying that any country sould have immunity from helping us or any other nation. America is a country of freedom and brotherhood. No nation is perfect not the French, not Britian not even the U.S. The point is we have done our fair share of "being Neutral".

If we are gonna talk about the war in Afganistan against Bin Laden okay. That war to track down Al-Queda, that I was not opposed to. Iraq I am opposed to though for the sole fact that we let the real enemy at hand get away. Also our problem in Iraq could have solved back in 92'/93'. C'mon we had so many chances to take out Saddam, and we never took them. That, what has happened with Iraq, is totally our fault for not taking the chance when we first had one. And one more thing before I end this. We did train Bin Laden and many members of Al-Queda. We trained Bin Laden specificly at Keesler A.F.B. in Boloxi, MS. Al-Queda, at one time, was our allies so was Bin Laden. We trained them for covert ops when Russia was making a sweep through middle east...an area we saw many opportunities to advance and profit from. We did the same thing in Cambodia as we did when we trained Al-Queda to fight against Russia. What happened, the puppet government we set up allowed the Kamir Rouge and Pol Pot to desimate Cambodia. History now repeats itself with Al-Queda. Lets pray that the 3rd Puppet government we set up(the New Iraq) won't trun on us. I just wanted to set the record straight. I am non-bias and see the fault of other countries such as France but we can't deny our own faults either. So in closing, I feel I have defended my point and the point of peoples for and against the French. If you are bias you will never solve anything because you will refuse to open your mind up to your opposition.

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Oh and I am an American whose ethnic background is Sicilian/French/Greek.

"Best way to win an arguement is know what you are up against and to know both sides of the story."

Sigh! How many times do I have to say that we owe a debt of gratitude to the French for helping us in the Revolutionary War? I acknowledge that. I acknowledge that in the comments of every single French bashing post that I have written. Thank you France! Of course, they did that because they were fighting England at the time. That being said, we paid that debt back in WWI. We paid it back again in WWII. We paid it back with the Marshall Plan. Then we protected France and the rest of Western Europe from the Soviets during the Cold War. So quit mentioning that Revolutionary War crap. The debt has been repaid in full and then some.

We didn't take out Saddam in the early 90's because we made the mistake of listening to the international community, including France.

As for letting bin Laden get away, that is a red herring. We opted to let the Afghans do the work because if we would have sent our troops in and lost a lot of men you liberal bastards would be asking why we didn't let the Afghans do it? Anyway, bin Laden is hiding out in a cave somewhere. Fuck him! His organization is in disarray.

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what the Iraq War has accomplished so far have you? Libyq renounced WMD's. Syria is getting out of Lebanon. Egypt and Saudi Arabia are leaning toward democratic reforms. It looks like even the Palestinians are beginning to come around.

What you and the others on the left fail to realize is that this is not a war against Osama bin Laden, but international Islamic terrorism. This terrorism comes from the Middle East. Saddam sponsored some of it. Iraq was the first step in the process of cleaning up the Middle East. As I have said many times before, this is WWIV.

Please cite your source that we trained bin Laden at Keesler AFB. This is the first I have heard of that and I would expect this to have been trumpeted all over the alphabet networks and other lamestream media outlets. I haven't even heard Michael Moore say that.

We supplied arms to the Afghan Mujahadeen as part of a proxy war against Russia. This was not Al Qaeda. It was not formed until 1988. Plus, we did not set up a puppet government there. When the Soviets gave up and left, there was a power vacuum that was filled by the Taliban. Where are you getting this shit?

We did not set up a puppet government in Cambodia either and what caused the real disaster in Cambodia was the fall of South Viet Nam after Congress (controlled by Dimocrats, I might add) cut off funding and air support. The killing fields in Cambodia were thanks to North Viet Nam.

I'm afraid you have not defended your points and considering your abysmal knowledge of history why are you even commenting on this site?