June 06, 2005


Omigawd! I forgot that today is the 61st anniversary of D-Day. So I'm thinking about how we would view D-Day and World War II if it were to happen today.

First off, Michael Moore would have to make a movie titled Farenheit 12/7. In it he would say that every thing wrong with the world is all our fault and we deseved Pearl Harbor because of our unfair treatment of the Japanese.

He would probably have pictures of Nazi Germany with little Jewish children flying kites. Hitler would be a wonderful person who posed no risk to us. Hollywood nitwits like Barbra Streisand would believe it. Jane Fonda would fly to Nazi Germany and pose on an anti-aircraft gun. Tokyo Rose would be lauded as a brave voice from Japan.

Could you imagine the quagmire? Our American media would be telling us nothing but gloom and doom. There would be no way we could win the war in the Pacific. Japan was just too powerful. We should just give them what they want.

And after the Battle of Kassarine Pass in North Africa when the Germans kicked our ass, we should have realized that there was no way to defeat the mighty German war machine. Just give Hitler what he wants. He's a reasonable man. Michael Moore told us so.

Can you imagine how today's anit-American media would have written about D-Day? Hoy crap! It was a total disaster! Quagmire! An unwinnable war! Too many soldiers died. Bring the troops home now. Impeach Roosevelt!

Yep. It's hard to believe that only 60 years ago the American media and Hollywood were on our side. How times have changed.

Posted by denny at June 6, 2005 10:07 PM  

Nice, hon.

Very nice.

Posted by: Gina on June 6, 2005 10:54 PM

they were on "your side" because it was clear that the axis powers were the agressor. Neville chamberlain issued an ultimatum that hitler subsequently broke. we simply had to go to war.

today, things arent so black and white. "good" and "bad" arent the extremes the religious right like to think they are. Hussain was not hiitler - there was, and would have been, no mobilisation of troops, no invasion of nighbours for neigh on a decade. he paralell is inaccurate. to pretend otherwise is naive.

Posted by: matthew g on June 7, 2005 04:18 AM

I didn't, Denny. My dad was being seasick (he was a forward artillery observer with the 29th Division) on the boat waiting for the artillery to be unloaded. He fought his way across Europe and was wounded twice. He carried a piece of German shrapnel in his shoulder until he died, 49 years later. I miss him greatly. He was truly a hero.

And as for Matthew to ask us to pretend that Hussein was a good guy is absurd. Ask the Kurds.

The enemy we are fighting in this case is more diffused, scattered around the world hiding among the populace. I believe that Bush jumpstarting democracy in the Middle East is a very good tactical maneuver. Seeing what is happening in Iraq, oppressed people in other countries (Egypt, Lebanon) are starting to stir, and demand change.

And I'd rather be fighting them there, than here.

Imperial Keeper

Posted by: Elizabeth on June 7, 2005 09:10 AM

I bet that the bedwetters from the Left would've been carping about ANY involvement in fighting Germany. After all, Hitler didn't attack us! We had no right ever attacking Germany.

Matt G, your ignorance is going to enslave all of us! Pick up a book sometime and read the stuff around the pictures . . . you just might be useful to society that way. It's not clear who the aggressors are in the current conflict?? Visit Ground Zero in NYC and get back to us!

Posted by: Raving republican on June 7, 2005 10:41 AM

Incarcerating the Japanese in the USA during WWII was done to protect us from fifth column activity. It worked, although our leaders of that time have been vilified by today’s left leaning liberals. But it worked.

Today we have over a million Moslems, supposedly integrating themselves into our societal structure. They are allowing the jihadis to mingle among them, protecting them, lying about the fact they exist, pretending to "make a new life in America".

When the time is right, your neighborly Moslems, led by their Mullahs, will, in the name of their "peaceful religion" rise and slay the infidels or subvert them to dhimmis. (i.e. by the edicts of the Koran)

They will be assisted by the growing MS 13 and other illegals (who will, in the end, also lose their heads or become dhimmis) and create 'real' gulags.

Where are our leaders? The republicans and the POTUS have opened all of the southern border to the fifth column.

Texas AC

Posted by: AC O'Brein on June 7, 2005 02:15 PM

Matthew - Then I guess Bush isn't Hitler either, huh? I had such high hopes for you when after the Iraqi election you admitted that maybe Bush wasn't so bad to invade Iraq. I can see that your left-wing professors and al-Guardian have taken you back to the dark side.

Posted by: Denny on June 7, 2005 02:35 PM

You know, I have been reading alot of chains on this site and I have this to say. Its interesting how divided the opinions are here. Matt G, you are an imbecile and desperately need to have your head examined. Inaction in the face of open hostility is as bad as overreaction at a perceived threat. You let someone bloody your nose and do not strike back, you encourage them to do it again or worse. This is not a High School Bully we are talking about. Facts about the man who was deposed. Saddam Hussein authorized the killing of millions of his own citizens... FACT. Saddam Hussein used chemical Weapons on entire VILLAGES of Kurdish people whos only crime was to stand up against the injustices already dealt them... FACT. Saddam hussein has already shown aggressive tendencies towards his neighbors waging multiple wars within the last 30 years... FACT. Saddam Hussein Tortured and incarcerated hundreds of thousands if not millions of his own citizens, some for as paltry a crime as saying that the government was bad... FACT. If you have any doubt that this man was becoming the next Hitler, all you have to do is look at the mass graves dug up and the bodies Identified so that their families can know what happened to them. All you have to do is ask the citizenry what occurred in that country. Ask the people that escaped the country under his regime and talk to them.

I do not agree with the sham reason of WMD's being the cause to go in, but I think it was high time the man was deposed. The UN Authorized action in Bosnia, and Yugoslavia, and several other places where the crimes against humanity were much less, why then did they balk in Iraq and delay action for so long. Because several countries had great ties for deals and bargains with Saddam for Oil and an invasion would destroy those bargains. Those countries that balked against us going in and taking out Saddam were those countries most seriously affected by the loss of oil deals.

Read the history books and see the trends...

As for the rest of you, moderation is a good thing, extremism is just another form of running with the blinders on. I don't like my current president, but then I don't like most of em, I just vote for who I think is going to agree most with what I think the Country needs.

Posted by: JC on June 7, 2005 04:19 PM

as somebody that has been to iraq the comparisons are not that bad saddam killed or had killed thousands of kurds.and these things still happen to this day in iraq insurgents kill people for no reason every day and the only time we hear about these thing are when there is a explosion invloved. personaly i am glad that we are handling the problem here rather than in america.rember how u felt on 9-11 trust me u dont want to feel like that every day

Posted by: sam on June 7, 2005 04:34 PM

Michael Moore and Matthew would be right to say the US had it coming. After all, they only wanted us to end our unjust, and racist, oil embargo that we so unfairly instigated against them. We arogantly demanded that they change their foriegn policy and stop murdering the Chinese and Koreans by the hundreds of thousands. How dare we intervene in their business by cutting off the fuel supply needed by the Imperial Army and Navy to continue their onslaught through SE Asia. How dare we insult their cultural heritage by declaring the Rape of Nanking a crime against humanity. Afterall, it was only about 350,000 Chinese man, women and children that were murdered in three weeks and for that we took such draconian steps as an embargo? We should be ashamed and pay Japan war reparations.

Posted by: Ric on June 7, 2005 04:34 PM

The facts you mention have been too obvious to me for far too long. It all just makes me PUKE!

Posted by: The Moose on June 7, 2005 05:56 PM

I was talking to Denny there.

Posted by: The Moose on June 7, 2005 05:57 PM

One more thing to consider as to the quality of the Jihadists that are currently committing acts of terror against the American Military and there own fellow Iraqi`s..........They have resorted to booby trappping cars that are brought in for service. They load them up with c -4 and a radio controled remote switch and the owner drives off unaware that his car is tampered with and at the right moment a following car sets of the explosive.Seems like they are having difficulties finding those who are willing to blow themselves to vapors so why not use a fellow Iraqi?

Posted by: arathorn on June 7, 2005 08:48 PM

My biggest concern is protecting our soldiers with the right sheilds. I'm surprised that there has not been enough rage over this issue. How bad are these homemade bombs and how much protection (like tanks) do they need? It seems that both ideologies are so busy trying to prove themselves right that our soldiers are being blown to bits in the meantime

Posted by: Rachel on June 8, 2005 08:10 AM

My favorite democrat expresident has now weighed in on the issue and says Gitmo must go. I love Carter, don't you? he singlehandedly prevented the collapse of the republican party after Nixon.
I would love to meet him, what a sight he must be since he has his foot in his mouth, and his head up his ass.

Posted by: Jeremy on June 8, 2005 08:44 AM

Off Topic, but 6/5/05 was the first anniversary of Ronald Reagan's passing. 1st week of June is quite the week for Patriot rememberances.

Posted by: marcel on June 8, 2005 01:52 PM

Denny - I can imagine the media during WW2. Pre-election 2004, somebody sent an email with a copy of Life magazine from the 1940's. As the war in Europe wound down, a writer questioned the damage WE had done to the people and economy.

Elizabeth - I salute your dad for his service. My dad was with the 70th during the Battle of the Bulge. He was captured, in, of all places FRANCE (our Iraq-pain-in-ass ally), by the Germans and shipped to Germany for a stint in a Stalag. He had the good fortune to come home - alive.

Posted by: OnRightOnLeftCoast on June 8, 2005 05:04 PM

Thank you, OnRight. My thanks to your dad for his service.

Imperial Keeper

Posted by: Elizabeth on June 9, 2005 02:55 PM

And today if the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, Bush would invade Mexico.

Posted by: Carlo on June 10, 2005 11:49 AM

The classic entry in this sort of "What If" exercise is, of course, 'National Lampoon's' "If World War II Had Been Fought Like the War in Vietnam,' by P.J. O'Rourke and Tod Carroll:


Still relevant today.

Posted by: F451 on June 10, 2005 11:52 AM

Carlo - I must say that ranks up with some of the stupidest comments that have ever appeared on this site. Congratulations for achieving Booger Eatin' Moh-ron status on your very first try.

BTW, maybe we should invade Mexico and take their oil. Mexico keeps invading us.

Posted by: Denny on June 10, 2005 12:03 PM
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