The fans and dehumidifiers have been running since Friday. I'll get some relief this afternoon.
My friends, Michael and Cindy, invited me over to their house last night for dinner and to watch the HBO series, Rome. As with so many of these history dramas, they like to change the history to what they think is better. They totally screwed up the series, Caesar, a few years back. What gets me is the real history is actually better. The late Roman Republic history is fascinating, brutal, and full of sex and violence.
So what did they screw up last night?
Pompey's wife Julia did not die in 52 BC. She died in 54 BC. After her death, Caesar offered to have Pompey marry his grandniece, Octavia, and he would marry one of Pompey's daughters from a previous marriage. Since Pompey turned the deal down, Ocatavia didn't divorce her husband. They got the husband wrong also. She was married to Marcellus and stayed married to him until Augustus made her marry Marc Antony. One of her children by her first husband was Marcellus, to whom Augustus married his daughter Julia. He was to be Augustus' heir until he died. We are now in I Claudius territory.
Caesar's standards were not stolen and Octavius didn't go to Gaul. Octavius was born in 63 BC which would have made him 9 years old in 52 BC. Also, he didn't become Octavian until after Caesar's death. When one was adopted in Rome, he took his father's name and appended his name afterward. In Latin, that would make the appended name Octavianus, which when anglicized becomes Octavian.
Pompey is actually Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus. Most people called him Magnus, which would mean Great One. He was a boy wonder general and became Great One (or The Great) at a very early age.
Marc Antony is actually Marcus Antonius.
Are y'all learning anything?
In the first Senate meeting, last night, someone referred to Caesar as Pompey's co-consul. Caesar was actually a pro-consul and his province was Gaul. Caesar wanted to run for consul, in absentia, in 49 BC and the Senate would not let him. I'm now getting ahead of the series so I'll stop there.
What they did get right was Cato. Didja notice his naked shoulder and chest exposed under his toga? That was historically correct. Cato had this thing about honoring the Romans who kicked out the last king and evidentally they didn't wear tunics under their togas.
Cato's half sister is Servillia, who is Brutus' mother and Caesar's mistress. Caesar was like Bill Clinton in that he liked to boink lots of women. Married or single, he didn't care. Caesar did have better taste than Clinton. If we get lucky they'll show the scene in the Senate where Caesar gets a scroll and Cato demands that he read it in front of the entire Senate. Without a word, Caesar hands the scroll to Cato. It's a love letter from Servillia.
Now you've had a nice little history lesson. I think I'll do this again next week.
Posted by denny at August 29, 2005 02:42 PMappreciate your comments about Rome. I thought history was badly rewritten too!!
Posted by: Dave on August 29, 2005 08:54 PMThanks for the warning, Denny. Luckily, I don't get HBO so I'll make sure to keep walking when I see that one on the video shelf. For some good history, you might want to give Seize The Fire by Adam Nicolson a shot. The two hundredth anniversary of Nelson kicking some French and Spanish ass in a huge way is only a few weeks away, after all.
Posted by: Duncan on August 29, 2005 10:20 PM"ROME"...it stunk!..HBO what are you thinking!
I had a hard time keeping up with the accents and couldn't understand some of the dialogue.
Denny, are you going to watch it again?
Scary thought - can you imagine how America, our democracy, WWII, Ronald Reagan will be presented in 3005!
Liberals/Dimmicraps are already rewriting and distorting 20th Century American history.
Posted by: TomR on August 30, 2005 02:25 PMHey I saw Tits, I am happy....
Posted by: James Old Guy on August 30, 2005 02:45 PMVicki - Yep! I'm gonna continue to watch it since I love Roman history and that is one of the most fascinating periods in Roman history. It's also one of the periods we know the most about. That's why it is so easy to poke holes in the story line. They should have also included the fight between Milo and Clodius. It was like the fights between mafia families.
It's better than the ABC series, Empire. The only episode I watched sucked big time!
I'm gonna treat it like 24 and point out its errors on Mondays.
Posted by: Denny on August 30, 2005 03:21 PMGee!!
Greek were gay during antic times.. (well, actually, there are still gay)
So Addison, come over with some grease and let's see how Greek it is for you.. héhéhé..
Your commentary brings back my years of studying Latin I & II and Roman history. You did a better job, though. My mother taught Latin for years, use to travel to Rome regularly, and is a genius: but, I don't think that she could have come up with the details that you did. How is it that you came to study Roman history in such depth?
Posted by: Woody on September 1, 2005 08:50 PMThe creators of the show say they took some creative license to compress events in order to tell drama they wanted to tell. It's not a historial picture so much as a story about two soldiers against a historical backdrop. It's not focusing on Ceaser. He's just part of the overall story.
I think they went to much greater lengths to be accurate than most Hollywood efforts. They got the look and details far more right than most things I've seen. I am also into the Ancient world and it often annoys me how far from reality most of these things are.
I think the story they've been telling is a fun yarn. And I love that it's set during such an interesting period. Most of these Roman things are set in a Christian time period. I find pre-Christian Rome a lot more interesting.
Posted by: James Hudnall on September 12, 2005 12:10 PM