There are some really stupid people on this planet and lately I've atracted my share to this site and they've been commenting here. Here is a portion of a comment I received recently.
31.5 yrs: you're a fucking lazy jellyfish. Who are you to talk shit about working? Fucking speculator. It's because people are hard workers, paid nothing that you became "SRF". Surely somebody around the world. Speculation destroys jobs in USA, jobs for the REAL workers.
This booger eatin' moh-ron was making fun of my 31.5 years at IBM as if I sat around and did nothing for all that time. I resent that! I must have worked for at least 20 years of it. Who does he think I am? A French or a German worker? Does he think I only worked 31.5 years? I started working when I was 13 years old and cut grass, raked leaves, shoveled snow, cleaned gutters, and all sorts of odd jobs. I spent four years in the Navy. I put myself through college altho' I dropped out in my junior year.
So because I am an American, worked at IBM, and got rich I wasn't a REAL worker? So real workers can't get rich? Is that what this buttmunch is saying? Or is he saying he has a loser job and is too stupid to get rich so anyone who can get rich doesn't have a REAL job? This guy is probably a Dimocrat because that is the way they think.
And then he calls me a speculator and that is the reason why I'm rich because other people have to work for nothing. Dude, people work for nothing because that is what their labor is worth. Get a good education (which is possible even if you're poor) and your labor will be worth sumpin'. Refuse to learn how to speak English or drop out of school and yeah, you'll get paid nothing because that is what your labor is worth.
As to the speculator tag, I got news for you, I'm an investor. Where do you think the money comes from to pay you hard working idiots? It comes from capitalists like me who invest our money in companies that create products and employ people. If not for capitalists like me bozos like you wouldn't even have jobs. And if it weren't for capitalists like me who pay taxes, the parasites who live off the gummint wouldn't be supported.
I never speculated. I invested my money in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, and CDs. For my entire 31.5 years at IBM, I invested 10% of my pay in IBM stock. I was able to buy it at a 15% discount. Every IBM employee got this deal. Some took it. Some didn't. I never lost money on IBM stock. I still own some.
When 401-K's were introduced, I invested my money in them. Some employees took advantage. Some didn't. I bought IRA's. I invested. The money I invested was used to create more money. That is why I am a SRF®. You, on the other hand, probably "invest" your money in lottery tickets. Now, that is speculating. That is why you are poor. That is why you are a loser.
Only a loser like that commenter would think that capitalism destroys jobs.
Then we have this comment:
One day the proletariat masses will raise up against the greedhead minority and HELTER SKELTER, MAN.The irony is, you think I'm joking...
No, the tragedy here is, I know you aren't. I also know that you are totally ignorant of not only economics but of history. Or maybe I'm not giving you credit and you do realize what will happen since it has already happened so many places and has fucked up the proletariat masses everywhere it has happened and left death and poverty in its wake.
The Soviet Union. Communism worked real well there didn't it. At least 20 million killed by Stalin creating his socialist utopia.
Cuba. Free education and medical care but not enough food to eat. A shortage of antibiotics. Tell me where would you prefer to have major surgery, Cuba or the United States?
Venezuela will soon be a basket case.
Check out Zimbabwe. The proles are doing real well there aren't they?
The next country to get fucked up is gonna be South Africa. They just seized the first white farm. Notice to all white farmers: Sell your farms and get the fuck out of South Africa before it is too late!
South Africa's government says it wants to hand over about a third of white-owned farm land by 2014.
And we all see how well this has worked in Zimbabwe. By 2020, South Africa will be suffering from famine and will be begging the rest of the world to help it out.
But Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka says the pace of reform should be speeded up - as in neighbouring Zimbabwe, where most white-owned land has been seized by the state."There needs to be a bit of oomph. That's why we may need the skills of Zimbabwe to help us," she said.
Let me change my estimate. They want to move the famine date up to 2014.
So my dipshit commenter is right. It will be "HELTER SKELTER, MAN". The proles will fuck themselves just like they always do and it will be up to us snotty rich fuck capitalists to bail them out, just like we always do.
Posted by denny at September 23, 2005 02:41 PM
If you don't like capitalism then get the f out of America. Move to a socialist country where if your job sucks bucause you fucked up, your gonna be a homeless disgrace to the human race and if your job does pay well you have to give so much of it to the gummint that you won't get to spend any of your hard earned money.
Posted by: W.T.F on September 23, 2005 03:59 PM"And we all see how well this has worked in Zimbabwe. By 2020, South Africa will be suffering from famine and will be begging the rest of the world to help it out."
Just once I'd like this country to stand up and say "You asswipes intentionally did this to yourselves, now get yourselves out of it. We promise not to interfere in your internal affairs anymore."
Fat chance! (but I can fantasize, can't I?)
What is wrong with speculating? I wouldn't recommend speculating with ones retirement savings but nothing wrong with taking risk with fun money. Small companies are funded by speculators. Todays big company is yesterdays small cap stock.
I hate how some people act like success is somehow evil.
Posted by: LargeBill on September 23, 2005 06:51 PMHey the internet slacker “Helter Skelter your ass”
How many more FAILED versions of communism or socialism do you idiots need to see before you realize that the shit does not work. I was Germany when the wall came down. Do you understand why it came down dumbshit? I’ll try not to use big words. The Soviet Union could build bombs but bombs and butter. (SLAP) Pay attention! In other words it was fiscally (that means) Money or more simply $$. (SLAP) The former Soviet Union could not keep up $$ and remain a world power. President Ronald Reagan realized that, kicked this country into afterburner, built a world class military and burying the rotting corpse called the Soviet Union. Without firing a shot. May the former Soviet Union rest in pieces.
Former Soviet Union started to unravel as a dominant force, the oppressed republic of eastern Europe saw their opportunity to end the Soviets power. They chose to become free in an almost bloodless revolution for freedom.
These countries still have a long way to go but they are a hell of a lot better off than they were under the former Soviet Union. (SLAP) Are you still awake. What are they teaching you in school shithead or were you absent when they taught world history.
Remember this dipshit, The East German civilians stormed into West Germany, not the other way around. 80 Thousand East Germans risked death to escape to the west over around or under the wall while the soviet union was in charge. Many did die seeking freedom. The Wall was built to keep East Germans in not the keep the West Germans out. (SLAP) Former Soviet and east German machine guns and land mines pointed east not west. What does that tell you MEATHEAD?!!!? (SLAP) (SLAP) (SLAPPIPITY) (SLAP)
I have a friend that is a former East German. She now lives here and sells real estate, and she could tell your DUMB ASS some stories about her former East German life that would break your heart if you had one. Usually assholes like you have never lived or seen the communist or "socialist" life and how it sucks so bad it should be globally outlawed.
But I remember Mighty Soviet military soldiers abandoned by their government, begging for food because their government collapsed and could not afford to redeploy them back to Russia. Who helped them, Guess again. It was US military and their families that sheltered and fed them until their government could make arrangements. A lot of them did not go back. Screw Russia, they got a shot at life in the US. I'm also a speculator and proud of it. I served my country for 21 years and although I might not be a rich as Denny, that’s OK. I'm glad Denny, me and rest of us live in this country. In spite of its pin heads mostly liberal Dumbocrats, its still the best thing around. I've been around, I know.
If you think I'm patriotic, you should talk to my former West German, now American wife.
Now I'm going to play some poker with some buddies and possibly lose some of that "speculator" money or in your case $$
Largebill - They think success is evil because they are too stupid to achieve it. It's not their fault that they're not successful. It's the fault of snotty rich fucks like me that keep them from succeeding. At least that's what they think. They are booger eatin' moh-rons.
Posted by: Denny on September 23, 2005 07:52 PMWhat does it take to be successful in America? One of my nephews friends went to his dad on his 13th Birthday and asked for an increase in his allowance. Dad told him, Not only no, but no more allowance, its time you earn money. On graduation day in 1979, the kid was a multi millionaire. He started a small business with his last allowance money from the folks. By 15 he had over 40 employees, at 18 a hundred plus. He washes windows. At 15 OSHA busted him for being on a dangerous job and a minor. They wanted to speak to the Boss. They had egg on their face when the building manager IDed him as the boss.
I have hired several kids over the years to help with my rentals. The ones with drive and ambition show them selves by the end of the first week. Sad to say, they are rare. They excel at what they do, and move onward and upward. Its a mixed feeling when they leave, since you have to start all over training some one new, but have the joy of watching them climb the ladder to success.
Denny,
While I've posted on your site only one time before, I have enjoyed your opinions, articles, history lessons ( Rome) and general preaching to this choir. After reading the post you refer to, I was going respond, but did not want to start an argument on some one else's site. In the hopes that he may read this, I have decided to post re: the unprovoked attack on you.( Please have patience while I have a little fun with an obviously ignorant person.)
Dear Mr. A hole,
( Denny please notice how I maintain a decorum of politeness and sophistication right out of the gate )
Your post attacking the host of " gouchyoldcripple" was opprobrious. The vociferation of your cacophonous statements only shows your true benightedness. Your stentorian opprobrious attack of the Host on his own site was antipathetic. I have kept this reply epigrammatical. If you have half a brain it needs no elucidation. But please beware, the crap ( see, I used a word you would know)you disgorge causes Sturm und Drang on the site for all the rest of the Host’s interesting people who seem to post here and get along fine. Now go look up what I just said about you, that’s it take your time.
Oh, PS Mr. A Hole, I’m not a college professor, hell I didn’t even finish my college degree. You see, like Denny, I also took an uncommon route to having some nice things. I worked my ass off for them. At 16 yrs old in New York I was packing groceries in a supermarket, at 20 yrs. old I was building those supermarkets, at 44 I had built over 50 centers and moved to Colorado ,,,,,, to get away from idiots like you. That was 9 years ago. Guess what? I still go to work every day. I work with my hands at work, I work with my hands on the Ranch when I come home, I work 7 days a week. I do it cause I enjoy it. I will accept your title of “speculator”. Every day when I got up I "speculated" I would have the health and good sense to work in a way that accomplished something. Brick by brick, board by board.
For your ignorant and hurtful remarks, You owe the Host of this site an apology!
Posted by: alan on September 23, 2005 10:01 PMYou hit the nail right on the head Denny when you said that the poor could be educated, ie: Pell grant. There were a few that I went to college with that spent their Pell's on new cars. Made me sick. As I scrammbled for funds to pay for my own books.
Posted by: Teresa on September 23, 2005 11:20 PMThe problem is most of today's youth were born after the fall of the USSR. They have no first hand knowledge of the evils of socialism. They believe their professors because to them, the Cold War is ancient history, as far in the past to them as WWII was to those of us born in the 50s and 60s.
Posted by: hoosierboy on September 24, 2005 12:51 AMUH, I want to be a quiet voice whispering in the ear of my betters here, but ........ I know you won't like the message.
It seems that YOU are slowly coming 'round to a realization that we as the American United States are about 2 years away from being truly, totally, FUCKED.
Run the numbers for yourself & see; look at the social-factors that weigh-in to the larger equations; we are more 'A-Sea' than we have ever been.
I DO hope you'll notice that I am not blaming nor assigning blame to any one Party or another; it just gets more obvious everyday that we have reached our zenith & apogee and are slowly settling in to our new-(common) neighborhood plateau of waking-up to find ourselves a Third-World Nation.
No person nor no Nation can deficit-spend it's way to Prosperity. Just can't be done.
At least in anything I've read in history.
Posted by: DanS. on September 24, 2005 03:04 AMYou're right DanS, the leader can't do anything else than loose the first place. Egypt, Rome, Kingdom of France or England... Next Big Boss : China or India.
Posted by: Prosper on September 24, 2005 03:45 AMhoosierboy- You are right, as one of todays students i can say that for the most part students today are ignorant to how great they have it here in the United States of America because they have no idea how bad it can be. But there are a select few of us who do know because we actually pay attention in school and listen to the stories of struggle that happened and happen under communist rule. It is scary to me to see this happening because more often than not it is the most ignorant students who have dreams to be the next president of the u.s. God help us... scratch that... god help them. I pray that there are more kids out there that actually have a brain that want to run this country some day, if not, we are in for some big problems.
Piss off a liberal and buy a gun!
Posted by: W.T.F on September 24, 2005 06:08 AMDan S. - I agree to an extent. I have been very disappointed that Republicans have turned into Dimocrats. The only upside is that deficit spending as a percentage of GDP is not as high as it was in the 80's, and that is the important thing. What is gonna kill us, just like it is killing France and Germany, is our runaway entitlement programs. Medicare is gonna hit us before Social Security does and what is the solution? A prescription drug entitlement. As I have said many times, the Federal Gummint is spending on stuff that is not in the Constitution. If James Madison were alive today he would be shocked. If Thomas Jefferson were alive, he would be calling for a war of independence from the Federal Gummint. We are not on the downhill slope yet, but we are at the crest. As a Frenchman (Yes Prosper, I'm quoting a Frenchman), Alexis de Tocqueville once said about America, and I paraphrase since I do not have the exact quote, once the people of this country find out they can vote themselves money out of the public trust, this system will fail. And that is what our politicians are merrily doing, pandering and showering money on special interest groups. Our current president has not vetoed one spending bill.
Posted by: Denny on September 24, 2005 11:04 AMAlexis de Tocqueville simply looked back in history to the various democricies and why they failed. No great secret in what he did, but utter stupidity on the part of all those who do not look to history before repeating its mistakes.
I wold love to see our welfare system reformed. Limit the total number of years a person can be on it to arround five years, set a minimum age before you can be on it, possibly 25, and require that anyone on it be attending some type of vocational training or job skills course.
I wonder if politics would work better if there was a draft for political office. Fifty people drafted for each Fed seat, then a public election for one of those 50. No professional pols. But, then the carrer staffers would run things, kinda like some of em do now. And, out of 50 drafted, how many would be smarter than "outcome based education". Damn, Americas' future depends on honesty, reality, self sacrifice, self discipline, humility in our leadership. Where do we find that?? I don't know.
Investing - too many people don't have the patience or self discipline to invest, easier to load up on scratch offs and lotto tickets. Every kid should be taught before high school about the stock market and compounding savings.
Zimbabwe - wow, notice all the tourist flights going there, to their many fine resorts! Mugabe is Ray Nagin times 100. Famine actually began there about 3 years ago as all white farms were turned over to Black "war veterans" (read, looters and terrorists). Even with UN support, Zimbabwe suffers famine and of course AIDS. Mugabe leaves frequently to visit his vacation resorts on the European Mediterranean.
Posted by: TomR on September 25, 2005 02:34 PMAnyone with a basic education and lots of get up and go can become anything they want in todays United States. The biggest problem is the 'over educated' left wingers. They have a piece of paper that says they graduated from snob college. It's worth exactly what a sheet of paper is worth. Most of them are too sorry to earn a living, they think someone else owes them a living. That puts them on even par with the career welfare riders, not the average American. The welfare system has enslaved more black people than any regime in history. Most of them are too stupid to know this and keep standing around with their hands out. Just watch the news and they'll prove they are worthless to the human race.
Posted by: scrapiron on September 26, 2005 11:42 PMI'm too stupid to comment.
Posted by: benji on September 27, 2005 12:12 PM