July 30, 2006

Rules Of Engagement

I'm really getting sick of these terrorist groups hiding behind civilians and then raising a fuss when civilians are killed. Hell, Israel has even started phoning people to get out of their houses before they blow them up.

Hello? Mahmoud? This is the IAF. We're fixing to blow your house to kingdom come because you are hiding arms and ammunition in it. You have 10 minutes to round up your family and vacate the premises. Have a nice day.

Fuck 'em! If the Paleos and Hiz-ball-less buttwipes don't care about their people why should we? These are the rules of engagement I'd like to see.

If a mosque is being used to store ammunition it is a legitimate target. I don't give a flying fuck how holy the rest of the world thinks it is. You have just made it a military target. Its destruction is on your heads.

If a Moo-slime fires on anyone from a mosque, that mosque is now a legitimate target.

If a hospital is used to store weapons and ammunition, that hospital is now a legitimate target.

If a Moo-slime fires on anyone from a hospital, the hospital is now a legitimate target. The Moo-slime can explain all the deaths to Allah, altho' if there is a God, which I doubt, most of these Moo-slimes will never see him since they'll go straight to hell.

If a school is used to store weapons and ammunition, that school is now a legitimate target.

If a Moo-slime fires on anyone from a school, that school is now a legitimate target. The school is probably indoctrinating future mindless Moo-slime fanatics anyway.

When did we become so sensitive? This is war people! In war people die. Wars are not ended by phony cease fires like the one that Condi Rice is trying to negotiate. Wars are ended by one side kicking the other side's ass so hard they either surrender or they are annihilated. Yeah. I'm bloodthirsty, but that is how we ended WWII.

Israel is gonna be condemned by the world and accused of genocide no matter what they do. They may as well give the world sumpin' to condemn them for.

Go Israel! Kill Moo-slimes. That will be less for us to have to kill.

By the Way, here is the difference between Israel and the Paleos.


Sent to me by Charlieb.

"Peace will occur in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews" Golda Meir.

Posted by denny at July 30, 2006 08:47 PM  

Bang on Denny - I feel bad for the innocents being killed, but it's all on Hezbollah's head, those gutless pukes.

Posted by: Lisa W. on July 30, 2006 09:19 PM

Couldn't agree more!

Posted by: Trail-Mix on July 30, 2006 09:59 PM

Good post.

I wish everyone would butt out of Israel's war with Hezbollah and Hamas, unless Israel asks for help...they haven't.

World opinion sucks, so does Condi Rice, the UN and all the talking heads in suits at peace talks, while soldiers are fighting for democracy.

I don't give a rat's ass about civilians who refused to leave and support Hezbollah and Hamas...I feel nothing when I see casualties.

In a CNN interview with a Lebanese man, who supports Hezbollah, he pleadingly said, "Why doesn't the United States help us?" F'off and die.

Posted by: vicki on July 30, 2006 10:18 PM

...and another thing...I hate them!

What in the hell have the Arab nations contributed in recent history to the world?

Think about it?

How have any of these countries benefited the human race in the past century?

Posted by: vicki on July 30, 2006 10:30 PM

October 23, 1983 Hezbolla suicide nutjob kills 243 Marines. Now we want to stop the Israelis from killing them? WTF? I say cheer them on!!

Their supporters and conspirators die with them and are claimed as innocent civilians .. they are not so innocent as far as I'm concerned.

Let Isreal handle their own problem and step in only if asked by them.


Posted by: Philster on July 30, 2006 10:32 PM

Actually vicki I would have to say the last five centuries. We found their oil for them and did all the work and then they nationalized their oil industry.

Posted by: Denny on July 30, 2006 10:39 PM

Let the Jews kill them all. They can do it..

Posted by: Rob Cooper on July 30, 2006 10:59 PM

Children to an Islamic terrorists (everyone that claims Islam is a religion) is nothing but a tool to sucker the American Antique MSM, and they bite every time. They use the children as bullet proof vest and whine when they get killed. I no longer give a sh** how many children of Islam get killed, they will never be more than another terrorist that someone will have to kill in the future anyway.

Iran wants nuclear weapons. Why don't we give them about a dozen expended ones...Iran would look better as a barren desert.

Posted by: Scrapiron on July 30, 2006 11:29 PM

Scrapiron, I couldn't with you more. What really pisses me off is these moo-slime "mothers" who think their kids are doing the right thing by killing others in the name of allah (Swine piss be upon her).
That in and of itself is enough to justify wiping out as many moo-slimes as possible.

Posted by: Rob Cooper on July 31, 2006 12:29 AM

I no longer give a sh** how many children of Islam get killed, they will never be more than another terrorist that someone will have to kill in the future anyway.

And we see how they brainwash them into hatred. Those children have lost their childhood anyway.

Posted by: Zeb Quinn on July 31, 2006 12:53 AM

Did anyone watch that spot on 60 Minutes Sunday when they interviewed Osama's little buddy? That dude admitted that he wants his son, his little boy, to die in the name of Islam. There's something wrong with these people. Dying in the name of Gawd? It's fucking senseless no matter what religion you follow. Heck, I'm an atheist. Can you imagine how fucking stupid these people appear to me? Give your only life away...for a myth. Okay. You go do that.

Posted by: Marksman2000 on July 31, 2006 01:55 AM



Posted by: Rick on July 31, 2006 02:33 AM

Too many in the West, especially Europeans, have come to the conclusion that war is The Worst Thing Possible. I disagree. Allowing your culture to be exterminated because you couldn't be bothered to defend it is worse.

Peace--indeed, civilization itself--depends upon the credible threat of force. Israel is fighting this war because for the past dozen years, it has tried to negotiate with Moslems--"people" whose position is non-negotiable. Every overture and compromise the Israelis have made have been seen by the Moslems not as "progress towards peace," but as weakness. The Moslems thought that Israel was so weak that they wouldn't fight back after an overt act of war. Fortunately, this time they were wrong.

Condi, you liberal airhead, STFU and support our ally! Israel, ignore the mush-headed wimps at the UN and win your war!

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 02:59 AM

Squiddley wrote "Too many in the West, especially Europeans, have come to the conclusion that war is The Worst Thing Possible."

That's a little bit what we think here in France, especially since we lost 1.4 millions of men during the WWI fights.

Posted by: Prosper on July 31, 2006 03:07 AM

What has Islam done for humanity in the past hundred--or five hundred--years? About as much as it has ever done: caused great suffering, and created a bit of beautiful art.

Islam is a horrendous pox upon humanity. Sadly, it is not entirely false, because if it were, its lack of truth would have caused its collapse centuries ago.

Islam mixes some great truths with some falsehoods and, worse yet, a lot of evil. That Islam is able to touch the soul is evident not only from what Moslems will do for their faith, but also in the expressions of Islam found in art.

In the end, I would rather lose all the good that Islam is responsible for if it meant that we lost all its evil as well, because the evil that is Islam far outweighs what little good it has achieved.

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 03:07 AM

Did you hear about Femtochemistry Squiddley ?

Posted by: Prosper on July 31, 2006 03:46 AM

Look at the Palestinian asshole with the butt of his rifle shootin' southpaw with the stock on his right shoulder. Typical of those assholes! He must be french... what a douche...

Posted by: CharlieDelta on July 31, 2006 03:55 AM

Drunky boy wrote "Look at the Palestinian asshole with the butt of his rifle shootin' southpaw with the stock on his right shoulder. Typical of those assholes! He must be french... what a douche..."

hmmm, it seems to me that both soldiers hang their riffle the same way...
Don't you think it's the cartoonist who is french ?

Posted by: Prosper on July 31, 2006 04:04 AM

Prosper, would it have been better if the French had simply surrendered as soon as you were invaded? Would you prefer that your country not exist at all, that you merely be the Frankish part of Deutchland?

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 09:51 AM

Prosper, notice that Dr. Zewail accomplished what he did in the US. Do you think that he could have achieved what he did had he stayed in Egypt, or worked anywhere else in the Moslem world? No and no are the answers. Islam has no use for experimentation, and barely any use for science.

If Egypt, or any other Islamic country, is such a hotbed of progress, why aren't scientists flocking there to do their work?

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 10:00 AM

Of course not, that's why Hezbollah seems not in a hurry to abandon south of lebanon.
Soon, Israel will no more have target-problems : every single Lebanese (the few ones still alive of course) will support Hezbollah.
It reminds me the communist resistance in my country. Before war, there was a gap between pro and anto-communists. During war and a couple years after, this border vanished... German army talked too about terrorism and cowardice of members of Resistance.

Posted by: Prosper on July 31, 2006 10:05 AM

Squid, i just pointed out that you could find some muslim helping your civilization. You always claim your hatred of muslims, not Egyptians nor Syrians...

Posted by: Prosper on July 31, 2006 10:10 AM

"What in the hell have the Arab nations contributed in recent history to the world?"

Yes, Vicki... excellent point. Kahlil Gibran is the only entity of influence I recall. Were he alive during these times, "they" would most likely kill him...

Posted by: Jim on July 31, 2006 11:59 AM

"That's a little bit what we think here in France, especially since we lost 1.4 millions of men during the WWI fights."-Prosper

Most were wounds to the back.

Posted by: budman8 on July 31, 2006 01:10 PM

Hezbollah and Hamas use dead children as a political tool...to sucker the media into sympathizing with the poor civilians.


Posted by: vicki on July 31, 2006 02:28 PM

Most were wounds to the back.

Ah, man. Hehe...

Posted by: Marksman2000 on July 31, 2006 02:35 PM

Prosper, please pay attention. I don't hate all Moslems. I think Islam is a powerful force for evil in the world. I abhor the needless violence, hatred, and malice that many Moslems bring about. I will admit to hating Mohammed Atta, Osama bin Laden, and various other terrorist filth. But never have I advocated blanket hatred towards all Moslems. In fact, my personal interactions with the Moslems I have known have been nothing but positive.

Be that as it may, I support the separation of Moslems from the West, and the weakening of Moslems in their own countries--just the way it was until the late 20th century, and just the way it needs to be for us to be safe from them again.

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 05:02 PM

Prosper, I have to add that your comments shows your ignorance of statistics. Just because one--or a few--Moslems are actively beneficial to our culture does not mean that they all are. I stand by my position that they do not belong in the West at all.

Why? Too many are prone to violence, as shown by the recent terrorist incident in Seattle. Why? Islam is inherently incompatible with our Western values and traditions. Why? Too many Moslems are unwilling to abandon their primitive ways for the modern world, and so they should stay where they can practice their barbaric religion without conflicting with the civilized world.

Make no mistake, this is a clash of civilizations--though we're the only ones who are civilized.

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 05:11 PM

Sent to me from a Jewish friend of mine:

A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all real Americans who still don't get it. The real story of
the Middle East in just a few paragraphs.

The Palestinians want their own country.

There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years.
Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is really a modern invention.

Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians."

As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians,"
weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation."

So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" anymore to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths.

Instead, let's call them what they are:

"Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And
Death" at the behest of the other Arab nations who are using them for the purposes of propoganda.

How about from now on we call them what they are: "Adjacent Jew-Haters." Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country.Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't.They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years,especially a few years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own
country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.

That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew -Haters in the region want: Israel.
They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course -- that's where the real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel.

Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it --for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward people on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth . . . you know that's really saying something.

It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Midleast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world except MAYBE Algebra, and, that's open to question.

Think about this: 500 million Arabs; 5 million Jews.

Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that, if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals.

Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea?

Oh, that? We were just kidding.

My friend Kevin made an interesting point the other day: Just reverse the Numbers.
Imagine 500 million Jews and 5 million Arabs.

Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not.

Or marshaling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab State into the sea? Nonsense.
Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible.
Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting.

No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that, with vital operations in Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of super models who've just had their drugs taken away.

However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some.

After September 11th, our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them.
Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day), start to do the same
thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint.

If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be
done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan.

Posted by: Willie on July 31, 2006 05:48 PM

Prosper - If I looked hard enough I could probably find a Frenchman with balls. So what's your point. The Moo-slimes gave us one man in the past 500 years? Whoop-de-fucking-doo! Look at what Jewish scientists did in just the past 100 years, but the whole world wants to kill Jews, except for the United States and a few other countries.

On the upside they did give the world airplane hijackings and suicide bombers. As Charles Johnson said, "Lovely people. Let's give them a state".

Posted by: Denny on July 31, 2006 06:58 PM

Once upon a time, in the 8th century, there was a great Frankish hero, a defender of Christendom, a smiter of evil Musselmen, named Charles Martel. A brilliant general, he prevented the Mahometans from making further incursions into Europe.

Prosper, have there been any Frenchman who stood up to the Moslems since? Let's stop resting on our laurels and stand up for ourselves, shall we?

Posted by: Squidley on July 31, 2006 07:37 PM

...GO Willie!!!

Posted by: Tony K on July 31, 2006 10:27 PM

Jesus you have to dig deep to find a time the French got hard with Islam.

Did you find oil as well?

I see dead children and to be honest my heart is hard to them. They got caught between the bad guy and the good guys because the bad people were hiding behind them.

I think of the many Israeli children deliberately murdered by Muslims like 11 year old Hila, 9 year old Hadar, 7 year old Roni and Merav aged only 2 strapped in her car seat. With their pregnant mother Tali they were each shot in the head by a "freedom fighter". That level of evil leaves me cold when it's returned to the perpatrators.

Not so much fun this week having terrorists live next door is it.

A little sowing/reaping thing going on. Cease fire my hairy ass.

Posted by: Murray on July 31, 2006 11:38 PM

I find it hard to understand why there were no men of military age among the 48 or 53 or whatever number of "Innocent" victims found in the basement of that apartment building destroyed by IDF bombs. Old men, women, and kids. Where were the men? Are the men of southern Lebanon such cowards that they run away and leave their loved ones to die, or were they out servicing the Katusha launcher that was parked behind the building?

Posted by: Roger on August 1, 2006 12:30 AM

Prosper, have there been any Frenchman who stood up to the Moslems since?

Last time, it was in Algeria, fifty years agos. 28 000 french soldiers lost their life, between 200 000 and 400 000 algerians were killed. We even used to torture a bunch of them before they were executed (we called them terrorists too). You know what ? We're not that pride of this war.

Posted by: Prosper on August 1, 2006 03:09 AM

George Bush tries repeatedly to reassure us about the “Religion of Peace” but:

Why is the religion of peace directly responsible for 28 out of the 30 violent conflicts raging in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of chattel slavery in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of terrorism in the 20th and 21st Centuries?

Why are the practitioners of the religion of peace routinely slaughtering unarmed practitioners of every other religion wherever they can get away with it?

Why does the religion of peace call for the murder of anyone who converts from the religion of peace to another religion?

Why do so many of the believers of the religion of peace look forward to the opportunity to rape 72 virgins in heaven if they willingly suicide while killing innocent men, women and children of other religions? Is it a god they worship, or simply sex? If a god, then shouldn’t heaven have more to do with him than their libidos?

Why do the leaders of the religion of peace routinely issue fatwas (death warrants) for anybody who questions their holy book of peace or their holy prophet of peace?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the sexual mutilation of millions upon millions of little girls and the savage oppression of women?

Why did 100’s of millions of the practitioners of the religion of peace laugh, cheer and dance in the street because 3,000 innocent men, women and children were murdered by seventeen men who supposedly “hijacked” the religion of peace? And why don’t the real practitioners of the religion of peace condemn the supposed “hijackers” of their religion? Why the deafening silence? Why the smiles? Why the cheers and high fives?

Perhaps I just don’t understand this whole PEACE thing. Did the definition of the word change, or is somebody just blowing a lot of smoke?

Posted by: Douglas on August 1, 2006 07:30 AM

Actually Douglas, I think it's the religion of piece. A piece here. A piece there. Body parts everywhere.

Posted by: Denny on August 1, 2006 12:09 PM

Prosper - You lost that war by the way. I'd like to say that Algeria was your Viet Nam, but since Viet Nam was your Viet Nam, I guess that makes Algeria your Algeria. You didn't do so well with wars in the 20th Century did you? I guess that's why you have decided to just go ahead and surrender to the Moo-slimes in the 21st Century. Why have a lot of men die when you're gonna lose anyway? Pity.

Posted by: Denny on August 1, 2006 12:16 PM

Thank you, Douglas, for pointing out what a moronic term "religion of peace" is. What does that tell you about the people who use the term?

Don't forget all the other Moslem atrocities, nicely listed by Neal Boortz in this clip posted hereat GOC.

Posted by: Squidley on August 1, 2006 06:10 PM

I understand Jane Fonda won that war Denny.

Proud American moment there was it?

But at least we were too and ever man a volunteer. The Brits were conspicuoulsy absent. Some short memories in play these days.

Posted by: Murray on August 1, 2006 08:30 PM

Murray - You got that right, the traitorous bitch! You and the Aussies were indeed on our side and the Brits were absent.

Posted by: Denny on August 1, 2006 09:38 PM

What are you talking about Denny ? Lost the war in Algeria ? Maybe you need to read some book about it... In 1959, we won military control in Algeria. But revelations of torture and the indiscriminate brutality the army visited on the Muslim population prompted widespread revulsion (maybe something you should have learn before Abu Graib). And international pressure was building on France to grant Algeria independence. Then came The "self-determination" referendum, and the Pied-noirs and Harkis exodus. That ended our last colonny...
But you still believe we lost WWI and you won it : i believe you sent 300 000 men, our casualties were 5 times more important !

Posted by: Prosper on August 2, 2006 03:11 AM

First webbing set I was issued with was a viet nam survivor. I found the bullet hole in the shoulder strap a little unnerving through.

Brit cam, Brit rank and sturcture, US kit, mixed US/Brit vehicles, training for the desert above the snow line. Welcome to the NZ Army.

The question is are we going to let the Hanoi Janes of the world do it again?

Posted by: Murray on August 2, 2006 05:43 AM

Should have given france back to the germans after the war. Just because...Pussies!

Posted by: Tony K on August 2, 2006 07:50 AM

Prosper - You gave Algeria independence. That means you lost the fucking war. Maybe you won all the battles, like we did in Viet Nam, but you still lost the war, just like we lost the Viet Nam War.

So you lost a lot of men in WWI. Big deal. It was our 300,000 men who won it. Jesus Christ Prosper, you're starting to sound like the rooster who thinks because he crows, the sun comes up in the morning.

Posted by: Denny on August 2, 2006 11:23 AM

Prosper, and especially Matthew,

When you learn what a Devil Dog is, you'll know how the US won WWI for you.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Squidley on August 2, 2006 04:47 PM

Prosper wrote "But revelations of torture and the indiscriminate brutality the army visited on the Muslim population prompted widespread revulsion (maybe something you should have learn before Abu Graib)." Abu Graib was nothing more than a slap on the ass compared to the murderous acts by the moo slimes on each other and anyone they consider an infidels, Are you nuts!!!! You see this is why I have serious doubts about your logic when you can't consider both sides of the situation. You must really be plugged into whatever media nonsense is feeding you this crap.

There is no comparison to embarrassed Iraqi prisoners and the gassing and mass graves of Saddam. Even Saddam must be laughing his ass of at the useful stupidity of the LSM and their moral indignation of Abu Graib. Incidentally, all the soldiers involved are in prison now.
Abu Graib,is not the only prison in Iraq but one of 12 and his minor shit happened in one small part of a very large prison. If it were policy to do this then I would imagine there would be more of these incidents.

See Prosper, do you follow the logic. Now, Get Fucking over it already.

I tell you what Prosper, here is what we can do, turn them over to the Kurds and the Shia. Problem solved. That is exactly what I would have done, make them disappear. Furnish the Kurd and Shia the bullits to do the job, but that's just me.

Also, while we're on the subject of our brutally death camps, the Guantanmo bay detention camp, I say bring those detainees back to Afghanistan and let that country take care of the problem. No questions asked and again the problem is solved. Amnesty International can watch.

Come on Prosper, I "had" a glimmer of hope for you. Now we got to listen to your shit about Abu Graib. A pimple on Saddam's ass compared to what he has done. Where is the moral outrage from your country on that. We don't even see the pictures of the villages that Saddam gassed in 1985. I guess its old news compared to the Bushitler (new villian)

Did your liberal media publish the pictures of Hezbollah dressed in civilian cloths taken by a western photo press and smuggled out of that area? Probably not, follow the logic Prosper. The civilian that are getting killed by the IDF. Are they Civilians?

Probably not, I believe that your media and some of our media are the real Anti-Semetics. They want Israel to loose. Well, next time you subscribe to those rags just say "SEIG HEIL" and snap to attention, and give them the anti semetic respect that they deserve.


And Rojer (you punk) you're not even at this intellectual level. So Fuck Off.



Posted by: scaryguy on August 2, 2006 11:18 PM

The Malayan Emergency is a good example of winning the war and giving the locals independence. The Commonwealths Veit Nam which you hear little of because it was "Imperialism" we won.

Most of the communist fighters were in fact Indonesian (oh look here's a pattern) and the Malays pretty much got independance in exchange for not hosting the commie cancer and Britain, Australia and NZ packed up that independence with military force. Hence we kept troops in Singapore for some years thus getting me a two year holiday in the sun.

Recently the Malasian King issued a medal for the Commonwealth forces in thanks for the contribution to Malaisian independence. Thus scoring my father yet another medal. Disturbing that he has recieved more than half his rack after retiring.

The even got no coverage here as it makes the military look good. There was also no public acknowledgement of the NZSAS getting a Presidental Unit Citation for comabt in Afghanistan this year.

Life under socialists. You have been warned.

Posted by: Murray on August 2, 2006 11:29 PM

What always use to puzzle many is how ISLAM could POSSIBLY overthrow a great powerful nation like America and establish an Islamic theocratic state. Well here's how:


American laws will protect us.

Democrats and Leftist will support us.

UNO will legitimize us. (United Nations Organization)

CAIR will incubate us. (Council on American-Islamic Relations)

ACLU will empower us. (American Civil Liberties Union)

Western Universities will educate us.

Mosques will shelter us

OPEC will finance us

Hollywood will love us.

Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists.”

Am I right? Well let’s see:

"American laws will protect us".

From CNN

NEW YORK (AP) -- A judge earlier this week refused to let federal prosecutors present some of the most potentially damaging evidence against a Yemeni sheik charged with funnelling millions of dollars to terrorists.

And from Jihad Watch

9/11 hijacker used [legal] bypass to obtain California license

"Democrats and Leftist will support us."

From Free Republic

Democrats who took radical Islamic & terrorist campaign $$$ (McKinney, Kennedy, Bonior & more)

"UNO will legitimize us."

From University of Minnesota

Cooperation between the United Nations and the Organization of the Islamic Conference

"CAIR will incubate us."

From Front Page

One group in particular, CAIR or the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an entity masquerading as a ‘civil rights’ organization, has called into question its own support for nefarious causes. The following will prove that, in late 2001, CAIR appeared to be in violation of United States law, as in regards to the providing of material support to terrorists.

"ACLU will empower us."

From NRO

It's official: The Left doesn't believe that Islamic terrorism exists. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, terror watch lists are nothing more than the product of John Ashcroft's paranoid imagination, and should play no more role in government policy than a compendium of his favorite anthems.

"Western Universities will educate us."

From Freedom House

The key hijackers, including Mohamed Atta, were well-educated children of privilege. None of them suffered first-hand economic privation or political oppression. Equally important, it is becoming clear that hundreds, if not thousands, of graduates of bin Laden's schools for terror are Muslims who have grown up and been educated in the United States and Europe.

"Mosques will shelter us"

From Freedom House

“Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques,”

Among the key findings of the report:

• Various Saudi government publications gathered for this study, most of which are in Arabic, assert that it is a religious obligation for Muslims to hate Christians and Jews and warn against imitating, befriending, or helping them in any way, or taking part in their festivities and celebrations;

• The documents promote contempt for the United States because it is ruled by legislated civil law rather than by totalitarian Wahhabi-style Islamic law. They condemn democracy as un-Islamic;

"OPEC will finance us"

From Town Hall

In Saudi Arabia, the royal family has been able to, in effect, lease the throne by subsidizing the radical brand of Islam known as Wahhabism. On a smaller scale, oil-rich families from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states directly fund Islamic terrorist outfits, including Hamas, Hezbollah and, of course, al-Qaeda.

"Hollywood will love us."

Michael Moore is living proof of that. But what happens when one of Hollywood's own is murdered for making a film critical of Islam?

From Rantburg

Somewhere in the world, a filmmaker creates a short documentary that chronicles what he perceives as the excesses of anti-abortion activists. An anti-abortion zealot reacts to the film by killing the filmmaker in broad daylight and stabbing anti-abortion tracts onto his body. How does the Hollywood community react to this atrocity? Would there be angry protests? Candlelight vigils? Outraged letters and columns and articles? Awards named in honour of their fallen comrade? Demands for justice? Calls for protection of artistic freedom? It’s a pretty safe bet that there would be all of the above and much more. And all of the anger would be absolutely justified.

So I’m trying to understand the nearly universal lack of outrage coming from Hollywood over the brutal murder of Dutch director, Theo van Gogh, who was shot on the morning of November 2, while bicycling through the streets of Amsterdam. The killer then stabbed his chest with one knife and slit his throat with another.

The presumed murderer, a Dutch-born dual Moroccan-Dutch citizen, attached a 5-page note to van Gogh's body with a knife. In it, he threatened jihad against the West in general, and specifically against five prominent Dutch political figures. Van Gogh’s crime? He created a short film highly critical of the treatment of women in Islamic societies. So, again I ask, where is the outrage from Hollywood’s creative community? I mean, talk about a violation of the right of free speech!

"Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists"

From The BBC

UN rules out genocide in Darfur

More than 70,000 people have been killed and two million more forced to flee their homes in Darfur since February 2003.

All of which is happening, not just in the US but around the world, right now.

“You infidels at this site cannot defeat us. We are 1.2 billion. We will double again. Do you have enough bullets to kill us? On the camera: We will always say, ‘Islam is the religion of Peace.’ We will say, ‘Jihad is actually inner Jihad.’ Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible. Moderate Muslim all over the world will incubate Jihadists by their talk by defending Islam. Using Western Legal system we will assert our Sharia Laws, slowly but surely. We will increase in number. We will double again.”

The UK has already begun to adopt Sharia Laws.

Gordon Brown, the chancellor, has already made one significant concession to adapt to the dictates of sharia. In the 2003 Finance Act he spared Muslims from paying stamp duty twice on their properties when they took out “Islamic mortgages” that complied with the sharia ban on paying interest.

More Sharia laws are planned here in the UK.

THE Inland Revenue is considering recognising polygamy for some religious groups for tax purposes. Officials have agreed to examine “family friendly” representations from Muslims who take up to four wives under sharia, the laws derived from the Koran.

What about moderate Islam? "Moderate Muslim will say there is no link between Islam and Terrorism and the West will believe it because the West is so gullible."

The Muslim Council of Britain is the moderate voice in the UK.

Here is what Iqbal Sacranie, general secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain had to say about Muslim terrorists.

'There is no such thing as an Islamic terrorist. This is deeply offensive. Saying Muslims are terrorists would be covered by this provision'.

For those of you reading this who disagree, see if this sounds familiar.

"The conversations I have had over the past few weeks bear out Tim’s warning that moderate Muslims swear there is no link between Islam and terrorists. In fact, the first words of those who write to me are usually, “Terrorists are not true Muslims” or “Terrorists are not practicing true Islam.” When I point out the words in the Quran damning all non-believers to hell and the very plain and clearly stated orders to kill all unbelievers, I am told that I am taking the words out of context." by an ex-muslim

Readers of the Quran may wonder how one can take out of context statements such as: “Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars” or “Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” “Christians will be burned in the Fire” seems rather straightforward to me. Yet, the denials come every day. Then, when I question those that contact me, the outrage follows. It has all become quite predictable.

Non-Muslims must understand the definition of unbeliever. In Islamic terms, it does not mean someone who does not believe in God. Unbeliever means anyone who does not believe and strictly follow the laws of Islam and Allah.

Word's of an ex-Muslim:

"I am told that it is me who is full of hate and that I hate Muslims. Americans hate Muslims and that is why we hunt them down and kill them all over the world. But statements such as “War is ordained by Allah” and “When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell,” it is argued, are not words of hate driving Muslims to kill. No, those words are “misunderstood” and twisted by those of us just do not understand the peace and love that is true Islam."

One very important "weapon" our "defector" leaves out is the media. Melanie Phillips recently noted

It is this weakness and moral confusion that comprise the great goal of terrorist strategy; it is this that has characterised the west’s response to Islamic terror for many decades; it is this that has brought us to where we are today. In the war that has been declared upon the free world, the western media’s abuse of power is perhaps the most lethal weapon of all.

The world is engulfed by a war declared on it by Islam but you would hardly know it from the western media.

Islam has a great strategy for waging war on the world; use the freedoms of democracy against the world. Protected by freedom of speech and religion they spew their hate from their mosques. Our laws, designed to protect people's rights, are being used as shields by terrorists the world over; incorporating Sharia Law these shields are being turned into weapons. Charities and so called civil rights groups funnel money and support to jihadists. Our universities educate the terrorists and provide another fourm to spread their hate. All the while the elite media provide the propaganda mouth piece.

It is a great plan. While playing the role of the victim they attack; just like the terrorists in Falluja feinged death before blowing themselves up and killing all around them.

Posted by: Douglas on August 2, 2006 11:47 PM

Sacryguy, you're right about differences between Saddam and US army. There was differences too between French Army and Algerian FLN. But you expect more from a democracy than from terrorists nor dictators.
You may be pissed off, but it's a fact : Abu Graib and Guantanamo hurt your image in the World.
We, in Europe, don't understand why you don't judge people in Guantanamo. If they are guilty, they'll gonna stay in prison.
Some of them were released after a couple of years, without any charge !!
Don't you have Judges and Lawyers in your country ?
If your president want to spread democracy in middle-east, don't you think he should be irreproachable ?
Otherwise, instead of peace, you'll have a permanent war in Middle-east, and your boys are not close to go back home...

Posted by: Prosper on August 3, 2006 03:17 AM

Prosper, I would agree with you if I seriously thought that any of your suggestions would change anything. The world already had this opinion of us long before we opened gitmo or before the isolated incident at Abu Graib.
In fact, even the Abu Graib prison has been knocked flat after the prisoner were released or transferred. So the fire was already there about these two places and incidents are just another excuse to support their contempt for us.

This is not a popularity contest, its war. Haven’t you noticed how the EU media is mostly against the Israeli conflict into Lebanon. It is as if the Israelis were bored and drove their tanks into Lebanon unprovoked. Please explain that mindset to me? Do you think I would care to win this kind of frinedship? The is an expression in my country. "With friends like these, who needs enemies"

When ANY nation is attacked by it's neighbor, do they not have a right to defend themselves? I would just like a straight answer to that question. I stand with Israel and I know how they feel only they have been at it longer than us.

I will say one thing, and that is up to the US to get off the foreign oil "Suger Tit" to coin a phrase. We as American, are duty bound to start using our own resources and develop and use whatever inovations at our disposal to make it so that WE DO NOT IMPORT ONE MORE BARREL OIL THEIR DAMN OIL. SET AMERICA FREE.
Europe would be wise to do the same. I'll gladly trade my truck in for this or something like it.



Posted by: scaryguy on August 3, 2006 08:16 PM

scaryguy, that was absolutely beautiful, man!

"When ANY nation is attacked by it's neighbor, do they not have a right to defend themselves? I would just like a straight answer to that question.

And millions more of us logical people want to know that too! Actually, we already know the answer to that question...

"This is not a popularity contest, its war."

Anyone who trashes the United States is not only ignorant, but hypocritical at the same time... We have the greatest freedom, above and beyond ANY other country in the WORLD! And we try to give, and to share that freedom. Third-world shitholes should be paying US for our good efforts!

Those who would debase that should get the fuck out of MY Country!

...(or hanged immediately)

""America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." - -- Abraham Lincoln"

Love it, or GTF out!

Posted by: CharlieDelta on August 3, 2006 11:08 PM

"If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide"

And you have those among you that want to make it happen.

Posted by: Murray on August 4, 2006 04:51 AM

Scaryguy - War is indeed not a problem to you : it took you a month to invade Irak and take Baghdad. A month later, Dubya gave a speech announcing the end of major combat operations.
War : 2 months and 200 deaths.

3 Years later, Peace cost you 10 times more. (I call it peace because you say there's no civil war, and your commander in chief think "Mission Accomplished")

So, let's face it, you should work a little on this popularity concept.
The big difference between Europe and USA is our death toll during the two last centuries. I hope you'll understand soon that war is not the unique answer.
Israel is never gonna know a peacefull area. From time to time, they gonna kick somme ass, and always some kid will come and explode among them.
France and Germany were 2 natural foes. My father is the first of my ancestry who never had to fight a german (or prussian). And now we are strong ally and we can hope we'll never be foe again.
So now we're called syssy or pussy, or eurowheenie... Who cares? Not us : no other people on earth have fight as much as the european people... Now we just sit and watch, and when you (and israelis) will have known 2 or 3 centuries of uninterrupted war, you'll know what we meant...

Posted by: Prosper on August 4, 2006 08:40 AM

Prosper, you almost made sense this time.

Lemme just say this: sometimes, there are things worse than war. Most Europeans don't know this anymore.

Here's something that Europeans and anti-war nitwits elsewhere in the world don't realize: Violence, and the credible threat of violence, are necessary for civilization. Without either one, someone who's willing to use violence will invade your country--or your home--and take everything he can.

This is why we have a strong military. This is part of why we have the right to bear arms. This is why we still have the death penalty.

Take away the death penalty, and criminals know that they can get away with anything. Take the citizenry's weapons away, and both criminals and governments can get away with anything. Take the armies away, and your country will soon cease to exist.

I think all those things are worse than war.

Posted by: Squidley on August 4, 2006 12:42 PM

Prosper - I think you and Germany have lost your will to fight. You're being invaded by Moo-slimes. Your social welfare state is coming apart and you are doing nothing. You don't seem to realize the gravity of the situation. The Moo-slimes are outbreeding you. You did your part by having three children. If only other French families would do the same.

Liste to what is coming out of the Islamic world. Islam is resurgent and they want to take over the world. They are telling us that. Europe is ignoring what they are saying. Liberals in my country are ignoring it too. They think we can "just get along with them". They don't want that. They want us to convert or die.

As for Israel, the first war they lose will be the last war they fight. They will go down fighting and may decide, like Samson, to take a bunch of their enemies with them by using their nukes.

Posted by: Denny on August 4, 2006 12:49 PM

Take away the death penalty, and criminals know that they can get away with anything.

Is there less crime in USA than in Europe ?

As for Israel, the first war they lose will be the last war they fight.

Sad but true.
That's why the peace should become so important to them.

Posted by: Prosper on August 4, 2006 01:35 PM

"Sad but true.
That's why the peace should become so important to them." Peace at any price is not peace, its surrender. You may not like the way we do business but that is the way it is.

"Now we just sit and watch, and when you (and israelis) will have known 2 or 3 centuries of uninterrupted war, you'll know what we meant..."

As we write this stuff, your government, Germany's and mine are negotiating how they are going to provide an international security force for Southern Lebonon when or if the cease fire comes. They are ironing out the details now. I guess your "sitting days" are over. Welcome to the war, big guy.


Posted by: scaryguy on August 4, 2006 10:23 PM

Prosper - Actually crime is going up in Europe, especially in cities with large Moo-slime populations. I seem to remember some burning cars last year. In many cities it is no longer safe to be out after dark.

In the United States, on the other hand, crime is dropping. What seems to confound the liberals is that states with concealed carry laws have less crime. The areas with the most stringent gun control, like our nation's capitol, has the highest murder rate in the country. Go figger.

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

Posted by: Denny on August 4, 2006 10:32 PM

How many police have died or been wounded in peaceful Paris in the last 12 months? Have the tyer fires died down yet? At least the smell of burning rubber helps cover the amipit stench... a little.

Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum Soli proscript catapultas habebunt.

Posted by: Murray on August 4, 2006 10:42 PM

It's nice talking guys, but let's examine facts :
murders per capita : 2.5 times more in USA than France.

Robbery per capita : 3.5 times more in USA than France

Rapes per capita : 2 times more in USA than France...

Don't forget there are differences between your fantasy world and the real one. Truth may hurt.
no comment to add...

scaryguy, our both countries try to build peace, not war, in lebanon. And yes, if a country must send troops to protect, not destroy, a people, that certainly must be France...

Posted by: Prosper on August 5, 2006 03:14 AM

Right, Do you recall the 1993 events in the city of Mogadishu Somalia? Well that started out as a humanitarian effort to help provide security for the various missionary and world health organizations like the Red Cross and other such organizations were trying to fend off massive starvation of over a million starving Somalis caught in a drought and civil war. Look how that turned out, i.e. "Black Hawk Down”
After months of frustration and desperately trying to get food to a starving Somalia and being thwarted by criminal gangs who were only interested in themselves. We decided to take out their criminal leadership. Our guy underestimated their resistance to this and got ambushed. I think we lost 21 soldiers there and then withdrew. BAD mistake and probably only emboldened the terrorist to make future attacks.
We now believe that terrorist attack on our troops was a precursor to the el Quita along with several other attacks prior to 9-11. Reasons that I firmly believe that Clinton knew that Osama was a rapidly growing problem but ignored the intelligence reports it because of the Lewinski crap and the Starr investigation. Come on 9-11 took a lot of time to put together.

It could be argued that this type of shit started as early and 1983 in the US Marine barracks bombing that cost 231 Marines. Lesson Learned? In the face of terrorism, use the scorched earth approach.

Aren't the French troops involved in the Ivory Coast operation? I'm not sure and I lose track. I recall that operation is not going so well. Maybe the answer is for civilized countries to let the uncivilized countries beat the hell out of each other. But when similar shit was happening in former Yugoslavia, Europe was screaming that the US needs to do something about this. Then we do and we are then accused of acting as the world police. Most people in this country didn’t understand what their fight was about and in fact, their hostilities go back 1,200 year, 4 times longer than the US has existed. Why was this conflict our problem? There was no oil their (smirk) But we were there anyway. What would happen if we left? Probably they would be right back to the same old shit. Incidentally, Clinton did not get UN approval for this operation; ironically no one in Europe seems to be crying about that.

I hate the UN, I think they are a waste of time and bigger waste of money. In the Bosnia operation, the UN even tried to have our soldiers wear those ridiculous blue helmets. It seemed like the UN was a great idea once it was but it in serious need of an enema. The US could start by kicking their headquarters out of New York. Then consider withdrawing from the UN. Start our own league. Base it on commerce and human rights.

I admire the Israelis for kicking ass and no crying for anyone else’s help. If you noticed they really don’t want us there until the job is done. Good luck and God’s Speed is what I say. If the rest other Muslim idiots haven’t figured it out, the Israelis are there to stay. They have the military might including nuclear might to stay right there or turn that area into a radioactive wasteland. What is our interest in this area mostly oil and security and yes mostly OIL. It is also you interest as well unless your country is running its machinery on wine. So, what is the answer? For us and probably for you, it’s to get off the Foreign Oil Tit. Then ungodly amounts of our and your money will no longer be poured into that area and those assholes in that part of the world go back to wondering the desert on camels and chopping each others heads off. Israel does not have oil so they won’t be affected. Then Israel can convert them all to Judaism and then it would really be the land of milk and honey. The former moo slimes would be far better off and would actually grow a brain and put down the guns. Besides, Israeli babes are HOT.

Anyway, since that is not likely to happen anytime soon, its business as usual. Them (moo-slimes) killing a few of us and us killing a hell of a lot of them.

I believe it was General George Washington that said “In order to secure peace, prepare for war.”

BTW I think this thread is about done, See ya Prosper on the next go around.

Posted by: scaryguy on August 5, 2006 11:35 AM

Prosper - I didn't say that crime was less in the US than in France. What I said is that our crime rate is going down and yours is going up. A large percentage of our crime is in the Black community thanks to our wonderful welfare system that has created a black underclass. You are starting to have the same problems with your Moo-slime underclass that is not assimilating. You can put your head in the sand or cover your ears and say, "La. La. La. I can't hear you!" All I've been saying is that your Moo-slime population will be your downfall. Look at what is happening in Sweden. For once I'm not trying to bash you. I'm just trying to point out a serious problem that you and your politicans are ignoring at your peril. I worry about France, Sweden, Germany, and the UK. You are slowly committing suicide.

Posted by: Denny on August 5, 2006 12:27 PM

Hey Prosper, here's something else about crime rates. Did you know that if you remove the crimes committed by blacks from the overall crime statistics, the US has one of the lowest crime rates in the world?

Yeah, I guess blacks and whites really are the same, except for the superficial, visually-apparant differences--right?

Could it be that part of the reason why your crime rates are rising is that you are increasing the number of blacks in your country through immigration from Africa? What do you think your crimes will be like in the future, as they outbreed you and other native Europeans?

Posted by: Squidley on August 7, 2006 01:31 AM
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