October 18, 2006

Kids Dying In Africa

Mark sent me this joke.

At a U2 concert in Glasgow, Bono asks the audience for some quiet.
Then in the silence, he starts to slowly clap his hands.

Holding the audience in total silence, he says into the microphone
"Every time I clap my hands, a child in Africa dies."

A voice from near the front pierces the silence;
"Well, stop clapping your fucking hands then!"

Posted by denny at October 18, 2006 11:20 PM  
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Every time I clap my hands, Bono dies.

(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)!!!!

Clappity clap!

Hey Bono, you still haven't found what you're looking for; until you do, STFU!

Posted by: CharlieDelta on October 19, 2006 01:26 AM

I love U2, and have since I was a 17 year old punk living in Chicago and seeing them in that rat-trap known as the Aragon Brawl, I mean
Ballroom.
Give Bono and the ONE campaign a break- At least he's not asking for money out of our pockets, but rather from governments around the world.
Yeah, I know technically it's the same, but I'd much rather see our tax dollars go to preventing AIDS in Africa rather than to Palestinian moo-slimes bent on the destruction of Israel and the USA.

Posted by: Rob Cooper on October 19, 2006 02:11 AM

RC-
I used to like U2 in highschool when it was getting me laid, but as the times changed, he didn't. Bono is the same tree-hugger that he has always been, and always will be. I still like the music, but not the message. I lost respect for that MF many years ago. If he would keep his politics out of his music I might see him in a different light, but as of yet, he's still on my "boycot" list. Moose-lime, bloody Moose-limb is more like it.

"Amnesty International" can pound sand as far as I am concerned.

Here's Bono in his own words:
"But justice is a higher standard. Africa makes a fool of our idea of justice; it makes a farce of our idea of equality. It mocks our pieties, it doubts our concern, it questions our commitment.

Sixty-five hundred Africans are still dying every day of a preventable, treatable disease, for lack of drugs we can buy at any drug store. This is not about charity, this is about justice and equality.

Because there's no way we can look at what's happening in Africa and, if we're honest, conclude that deep down, we really accept that Africans are equal to us. Anywhere else in the world, we wouldn't accept it. Look at what happened in South East Asia with the tsunami. 150,000 lives lost to that misnomer of all misnomers, "mother nature." In Africa, 150,000 lives are lost every month."

150,000 ungreatful assholes that do whatever they can to make us out to be "eeeeeeeeeeeevil assholes" that do nothing but HELP 3rd World Coutries. It's funny how you fuckers forget that.

FUCK YOU, Bono!


Posted by: CharlieDelta on October 19, 2006 03:30 AM

And when I say "you fuckers", I don't mean you RC, but I assume that you know where I'm coming from.

What I really mean is you 'moo-slime' motherfuckers, and you trolls that have nothing better to do with your time than abuse Section 8.

Posted by: CharlieDelta on October 19, 2006 03:55 AM

BONO IS THE ANTI-CHRIST

Posted by: lisakay on October 19, 2006 09:21 AM

Don’t misunderstand that what I’m about to say means that I don’t think that we should try to make things better, just that we need to let some reality set in.

The problem with the left is that they think that they are so smart that they can solve all the problems of the world. They have plans to end poverty; to end hunger; to end crime; to end sickness; to end war and any other ill that life exposes us to: In short, to create paradise. This is not possible.

Whether you believe in the Bible or not, it contains some interesting commentary and lessons for mankind. The pertinent lesson can be found in Genesis. Paradise and free will are incompatible!

Adam and Eve lived in paradise, used their free will to make a bad choice, and were cast out.

I could go on, but I’ll let you think about it.

Posted by: Art on October 19, 2006 10:09 AM

THanks Art. I'm still convinced that BONO Vox is the Anti-Christ.

Posted by: lisakay on October 19, 2006 10:11 AM

Bono looks like he needs to take a shower and wash his hair. Disgusting to look at and I've never liked his music. Even more, I don't like his political meddling and self-righteous crusades.

Posted by: vicki on October 19, 2006 11:12 AM

Bono is entitled to his opinion. What surprises me is that a lot of Celebrities have not yet figured out the blatantly fucking obvious: People don't really take Celebrities crusades seriously. If we did we would be riding around in little Yugo's instead of SUV's and Sedans. Recycling Charmin after we have all wiped our asses with it. Waiting in long lines for Government issued rations of the aforementioned Charmin. Tofu instead of Turkey on Thanksgiving. I could go on and on, but I'll let the rest of Denny's loyal readers take it from here.

Posted by: Darrell on October 19, 2006 05:01 PM

Crusades. Did I hear the word crusades?

Watch it or you'll get all the anti-christians up in arms again.

How about the latest "fade" amoung the "celebrity elite"

Buying black slaves in Africa so everyone will think they're cool for saving the slave's life.

Madogdoo picks the poor kid out of a line up (bought everyone off), praises his "looks" (shallow lib), then turns to the nanny, gives her orders to take the kid and proceeds back to her car(The material girl).

Ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh..............once a CUNT always a CUNT.........

Posted by: Willie on October 19, 2006 05:16 PM

Willie, sometimes you irk me with your all-good-looking-men-are-gay comments, but this time I'm with you.

Aren't there adoptable children in the USA or England who deserve a good life?



Pissed off Republicans...don't forget to vote! Keep thinking Nancy Pelosi and get your butts to the voting booth in November.

Posted by: vicki on October 19, 2006 05:24 PM

Vicki,

Hey, I'm damn good looking and I'm not gay (I think).

Sorry about the c-word. I know how that irks some, but I think what that slut did was so shallow, you can't even make up crap like that.

That's the point. She would never adopt a "beautiful" needy child from the US. She is doing a "make-ME-feel good" act.

Just soul-less!

Posted by: Willie on October 19, 2006 05:35 PM

We had Bob Geldoff come down to NZ a while back and he abused us for not giving enough to charities. Ignoring the fact that we gave a shit load to the indonesia and they never used half of it and we're the most over taxed idiots in the western world (11.5 billion surplus).

We renamed him Bob Fuckoff and he got all bitter.

Next thing you know this Bonehead tosser shows up and pulls the same freaken stunt!

Note to the UK: Keep your millionare do gooder know-all soap challanged tossers in your own hemsphere thanks. We've got problems of our own with out you sending us these buggers.

Posted by: Murray on October 19, 2006 08:17 PM

CD, I'm just saying that at least Bono (and Bob Geldof) is doing something to try to help, and most importantly to me, NOT blaming the Bush administration and the USA.

Both Bono and Geldof have "bitch-slapped" other celebs (John Mellencamp, Tom Petty, etc.), mainly AMERICAN celebs, for blaming President Bush by pointing out that while Clinton talked the talk and did little (typical Clinton), President Bush in fact did triple funding for AIDS in Africa.

The vast majority of Africa is ruled by corrupt dictators who steal most of the largesse provided by the rest of the world (via the also corrupt UN) while leaving their people to starve.

When you have a continent of mostly illiterate and uneducated people lucky to earn one dollar a day, and for whom survival is all they can care about, we in the civilized world have to help.

There's a difference between wanting to help human beings and wanting to save the whales, trees, spotted owls, jungles, blah, blah, blah.

The ONE campaign is about just that. It gets businesses like Apple Computers, The Gap, etc. to contribute a percentage of certain merchandise they sell.

I've been getting emails from the ONE campaign for almost two years, and NEVER once have they asked me for money in any of their emails.

Is it pie in the sky thinking? Maybe. But the alternative is to do nothing, blame the dictatorial governments, and allow millions of people to die for the lack of a pennies per dose innoculation.

No civilized country would or should do that, especially ours.

Posted by: Rob Cooper on October 20, 2006 02:24 AM

I met this ONE guy once, his name was Sam. He talked about the starving people in Africa. They live in sand. Nothing grows there, his idea was to send them U-hauls so that they could move to a place where shit grows. Dah. :)

Posted by: lisakay on October 20, 2006 07:01 AM

Bush gave 15 BILLION of our tax dollars to Aids relief in Africa.

WTF?

Why does the US feel responsible for this shit?

WE ARE NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST SUPERPOWER, CHINA IS.

So, why do we feel obligated to give money away like this? PITY? GUILT?

Not our problem.

Posted by: Willie on October 20, 2006 07:32 AM

As long as Africa is inhabited by Africans, the majority of the people there will be poor. Their rulers will be corrupt. Our attempts to help them are underappreciated and far less effective than we should like, mainly because the endemic corruption ensures that those who need our help the most are least likely to receive it.

Of course, all the facts and observable data in the world don't matter to liberals and leftists, for whom more taxes (on us) and more government (for everyone) is the starting point of any "solution."

I'm with Willie here: let's take care of ourselves first. We have plenty of poverty and disease in our own country. Not coincidentally, much of it is brought, and exacerbated, by illegal aliens and third-world immigrants. We are under no obligation whatsoever to allow them into our country. Their presence does demonstrable harm to us. So why are they still here?

Because soft-headed liberals and leftists think that "it's the right thing to do"--to do harm to ourselves, as long as it "helps" someone else. I guess they haven't noticed how much harm the third-worlders are doing; it's probably difficult to notice from the liberals' and leftists' elite enclaves which are far too expensive for the hoi polloi. I guess they haven't put two and two together about how the entitlement mentality corrupts even decent people, and how it destroys those without strong moral character.

Oh, there I go again, thinking that character matters!

Posted by: Squidley on October 20, 2006 10:10 AM

The prime example of the entitlement mentality is North Korea.

They are a failed communist (dictatorial)state fully funded by the following:

1. China (dependency)
2. Sale of illegal drugs
3. Sale of weapons and weapons technology
4. Counterfeit money

Damn, if they were an idividual they would be on welfare, food stamps/welfare money (dependency), selling illegal drugs, selling guns, stealing.

It is no coincidence that people who live under these dependency conditions resort to the lowest form of existence.

Free anything to anybody or state does not benefit them in the long run. I believe in temporary relief due to a natural disaster, but that's it. (except no more to muslim countries).

So how much humanitarian aid went to Hawaii after the quake so AMERICAN individuals don't have to get raped by the insurance companies and come out of pocket (as I have)?

Posted by: Willie on October 20, 2006 10:40 AM

Willie - Under Clinton, Korea was on welfare from us. That was the deal that Jimmah negotiated.

Posted by: Denny on October 20, 2006 01:05 PM

Ah, yes Denny. Jimmah Carter, the best President Panama ever had!

Posted by: Darrell on October 20, 2006 04:55 PM

IMHO I think there are some pretty harsh comments on here in RE: AIDS/Poverty in Africa. I don't see how anyone can make jokes about people dying in such a way, regardless of what you feel you are entitled to say about religion or their governmental system. While I did not have the luxury of choosing where I was born, the place where I appeared on this earth was pretty damn good. Unfortunately other children come into being in places like the Sudan and other 3rd world hell holes. While it is easy to sniff and make disparaging remarks about "Moo Slimes", and "Dimocrats" that make comments about this, are we really going to make jokes about a kid that is born with AIDS and dies before the age of 5 from disease and/or starvation? Is it is fault.

That whole deal about "not our problem" while it would take care of things fiscally on the front end, it could be problematic down the line. While this may not be our AO (Area of Operations), it is our AI (Area of Interest). If we turn a blind eye, are we accomplishing anything? Just my opinion.

Posted by: Dkelsmith on October 23, 2006 11:17 AM

Dkelsmith - The problems with Africa are many. First,some gummints, like the gummint of South Africa, refuses to admit that it even has an AIDS problem. Second, most of the aid we send to Africa doesn't go to the people but into the bank accounts of the corrupt leaders.

Posted by: Denny on October 23, 2006 12:13 PM

Dkelsmith,

I know you and I don't see eye-to-eye on some issues, but I do respect you, and your point of view. I agree that when a child is born into poverty and with AIDS, and dies before turning 5, it is certainly not the child's fault. So whose fault is it?

Well, it seems to be a combination of bad choices on the part of the individual, and bad choices on the part of the government. Individuals choose to use IV drugs or have anal sex,* and governments choose to do nothing to prevent those AIDS-spreading activities. Governments implement hugely counterproductive policies (think Zimbabwe). Governments fail to provide safe environments, much less adequate funding for schools, so children are uneducated. Uneducated adults continue the cycle of poor choices, and corrupt government elites continue to exploit natural resources and their people for their own selfish gain.

So what can we do? Sadly, very little. It's up to Africans to change their behavior. It's up to African leaders to put the needs of the people ahead of their own rapacious greed. We can't make such decisions for them.

We in the compassionate West naively think we can solve Africa's problems. At best, we can mildly ameliorate some of them, but short of recolonization, we cannot force the Africans to make good choices. We cannot enforce our values upon them. Even when we engage in humanitarian work, they find a way to mess it up.

A classic example is polio. We were about to eradicate the scourge of polio from the planet, and just needed to vaccinate a few more areas in Africa. Local imams (Moslem preachers) told their worshippers that the shots were designed by evil Westerners to make Moslems infertile. The ignoramuses believed it, and then went to Mecca, where they spread polio to people from other parts of the globe. In spite of our best efforts, in spite of the thankless charity work we do on their behalf, polio is spreading again--thanks to Africans' poor choices.

As for the allocation of food, water, and other resources, the primary impediment is human. Quite simply, those in power in Africa maintain their stranglehold on resources, refusing to allocate them to areas that are deemed "unworthy." The current mess in Sudan is a classic example of this. Even though the government agreed to a robust UN force, they won't let the blue hats in. Why not? The government isn't through killing its "enemies." Short of going to war--which no Western country is willing to do--there is no way to force UN "peacekeepers" upon the unwilling Sudanese.

The list goes on. While I don't think we should let Africa rot, we also shouldn't try to do the impossible. The efforts of private charities, especially Christian missionaries, will prove to be far more fruitful than aid from Western governments.

*There is an excellent discussion debunking the myth of rampant heterosexual AIDS transmission at Symposium: The Radical Lies of AIDS.

Posted by: Squidley on October 23, 2006 07:42 PM
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