I waited 5 months after I was in the va system before I was able to see a va doctor. I am a gulf war vet. (first war)

snappy - If someone would ask you to produce proof would you? Josh won't.

I should also say that now that I am (fully) in the system I get a va disability and free medical care, free meds and I can get in the same day needed (most of the time)

The only problem I had was the long wait to see a va doctor, when I first signed up.

Den:

the Video here link
doesn't seem to do anything after more than a 90-second wait ........

What am I missing?

If a Vet has to wait that long to see a video .....

:)

Yes I would show proof if I made a public statement like josh did. I would have to remove some info, the VA uses SSN to tract people and it is on all papers. I would not want that number to get around more then it already has.

Denny, you should be ASHAMED of yourself for bashing a Dickerated vet like Josh. Your closet dimocrap is cumming out, you Amerikka hating leftist you.
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This guy would fit in well with John Forgery Kerry's banned of oh brothers. I deal quite regularly with VA patients. In most case they can get the vet in as fast as we get them to the hospital, whether at Irwin Army Community, or the hospitals in Topeka or Kansas City. I've taken people to both. Its true that The VA had some budget cuts, but the WHOLE truth is that there is no point in budgeting money that will not be utilized.

Denny- I'm at my Brother's house just west of Springfield, Missouri until tuesday, and the ad ran tonight during the last game of the World Series...claiming Sen. Talent voted against Veterans' benefits 23 times. More liberal lies. They just cannot win any longer by telling the truth...My guess is that AlGore now regrets inventing the internet.

I, myself, was stationed in Ao Dai.

"Matters of betel and areca" (chuyện trầu cau).

Ask 'em what THAT means! (It means (loosely translated), time to speak of love & marriage).

And Ao Dai?

The Ao Dai which is a slenderizing formfitting outer garment that extends from its choke-throat collar to below the knees with long sleeves and slit on either side to the waist. It is worn over a pair of pajama-type bottoms with shoes being either sandals or closed shoes as desired. The lovely pastel color combinations and their light graceful movements combined with well groomed hair and countenance make many Vietnamese women quite attractive.

Of course, posers & imposters wouldn't know a lick about this aspect of things.

Yep ....., ..after a full day of being out in the bush slaughterin' Victor Charlie with the 101st Airborne Rangers ... we like to go up by Way City and smoke a few doobies.

Oh, I forgot: when I got back Stateside, I had to wait 12 years to see a VA Doc.

Lest you jump on me, the last two paragraphs are parody. "Josh" is full of shit.period.

I work with returning Veterans daily, and they have only the most pedestrian claims of any maltreatment by VA.

Nothing lower than a wannabe stealing and then trading on the honour of real veterans. Always interesting to note that a wannabe never claims to be a supply clerk or aircraft refueller, (both of which are perfectly honourable MOS, BTW) or similar, they are always "recon", "rangers" "SF" "Green Berets" etc.

Good pick Denny.

There are a million internet wannabes who fought in the Macong Dilta, but not a lot of them go on TV and then make AOTW.

DanS - It works now.

Denny,

Saying that some Republicans are opposed only to opening new lines of stem cell research is a little disingenous. While that's true, the implications are much larger. Opposing opening new stem cell lines is very close to opposing all stem cell research, as the current number of lines is limited. Because the number of lines is limited, the amount of variation represented among the extant lines is also limited, and so the medical breakthroughs that might be made are accordingly limited. Ultimately, those opposing opening new lines are hoping that the lack of progress with the limited resources currently available will cause researchers to abandon stem cell research, thus preserving the "sanctity" of the embryo.

Of course, none of this moral posturing (even that which is sincere) will dissuade the Europeans or the Chinese, who will continue to pursue new stem cell lines. This has already started a brain drain of top geneticists and biologists who find the research environment in the US too stifling.

I find the fundamentalist view that "life begins at conception" to be unconvincing, unscientific, and ahistorical. Conception is but one of many steps along the way to becoming a new life; there is no single defining point. The traditional view is that life begins with the onset of quickening, i.e., when the mother can feel the fetus move. There are far fewer spontaneous abortions (i.e., miscarriages) after that point than before it.

Finally, I saw the Michael J. Fox interviews (surprising, because I never watch network McNews), and I don't think that he was playing the victim card. Rush's pronouncements from on high about MJF's commercial make El Slowbo sound like a jackass--again.

Squidley - Here's my problem. The ad implies that Republicans are against all stem cell research. That is simply not true. It also implies that they are against embryonic stem cell research. Also not true. As it stands now, adult stem cells have shown more promise than embryonic stem cells. And exactly where does it say that gummint is responsible for funding any of this research in the first place?

What really pisses me off is the Dimocrats' tactics of using people like Michael J. Fox and portraying them as victims. Then, if anyone criticizes the ad, like Rush Limbaugh, he is excoriated for being so mean and heartless.

They've done this with Stumpy, Cindy Sheehan, and the Jersey Girls.

Squidley- So you find it to be "unconvincing, unscientific, and ahistorical". BFD. What are you, some kind of an expert?

I'll answer that for you- No, you're not, that's just YOUR opinion, no better or worse than anyone elses.

What cannot be denied is that the fertilized egg IS A LIVING ORGANISM, as were the sperm and egg before fertilization.

Life on earth first began as one celled animals and evolved. Life in the womb starts out as one cell, and then devides over and over.

If it wasn't living, it could not continually divide and eventually become a human being.

Regarding stem cell research, I've read that rats that have been given embrionic stems cells developed tumors.

And why is it just ONE company in Missouri is funding all these ads, to the tune of $28 million, to get propostion 2 passed in Missouri?

The companies, foundations, and charities you would think would be for this are not paying for ads.

And why are the ads telling Missourians how good prop. 2 will be so misleading? Every ad says that it bans human cloning. Page 1 of the amendment says it bans cloning. But page 4 says bio-tech companies, etc., can clone human embryos through "Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer", which is the definition for cloning and the method used to clone Dolly the sheep over in England.

Then page one of the amendment also says you can't buy or sell human eggs. But page 5 says firms can pay women for their eggs.

To use a Dolly the sheep related metaphor, they're trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes...

What really pisses me off is the Dimocrats' tactics of using people like Michael J. Fox and portraying them as victims. Then, if anyone criticizes the ad, like Rush Limbaugh, he is excoriated for being so mean and heartless.

Amen to that...exactly my feelings. More people agree with Rush than are willing to admit for fear of sounding unsympathic.

I'm also an opponent of embryonic stem cell research for many of the reasons Rob mentioned. In our throw away society, denying that an embryo isn't living sickens me.

As for the government being responsible for funding stem cell research or health care, eventually it is taken as a "right" by the public, meaning that it's politically near impossible to remove or curtail it later on when costs get out of control.

Vicky, Rob made a perfect summary statement : What cannot be denied is that the fertilized egg IS A LIVING ORGANISM, as were the sperm and egg before fertilization

Don't be in a hurry to condemn people for genocide because of masturbation !

WOW, Prosper agrees with me!!! Lord, he has seen the light!!!

BTW Prosper- Millions of sperm DIE trying to find and fertilize the egg, and to all you babes out there- don't say it all comes back to the fact that men will never stop and ask for directions.

So if you feel like jerking off, Prosper, it's just one more dead spermotozoa...No one will accuse you of being the french equivalent of Hitler.

Rob, it's one at each time...

You know what i mean, i must still be considered as a dangerous serial killer...

;-)

El Rushbo & Politics......

I personally believe Rush was right to make an issue of Michael J Fox`s use of parkinson`s disease for political purpose in a less then truthful manner.

I support any research for possible cures of this or any other disease,but I deplore the approach used for this ad because it makes a mockery of the efforts to find cures & gives false hope to those so afflicted.

I remember all to well the Kerry campaign & their claims that to elect them would allow for paraplegic`s to walk again ...... Do we really have to suffer thru more of this type of deception? Is the message more important then whether it contain`s the truth ?

The dimocrats are so obsessed with a desire to regain power, they will resort to any type of lie,slander or unethical conduct to achieve that position. Ask yourself if this is what you expect your elected representatives to be & if they are ultimately successful what likelihood is there respect for the truth , law , the constitution or the welfare of the voting public will be first on their agenda.

I would think that one fact should be obvious .....while all politicians are suspect as for ethical conduct, the dimocrats have consistantly & blatantly lied,slandered, cheated & been traitorous in their action`s. They put the liberal agenda above the people & will any do whatever is neccessary to advance it.

This is a serious election ...it is time to send these traitorous bastards a message that their actions will no longer be tolerated.Vote for candidates who honor truth & will work for the peope regardless of party affiliation. Be careful who you vote for & please use the intelligence God gave you to assess the worth of the people you vote for, don`t be blind to the real agenda some of these candidates support.

Prosper the missing Frenchman.....

Glad to see you are back on the web site. I do agree with your position that masterbation does not equate to Genocide. If it did , when I went thru puberty it is probable that I was responsible for more deaths then Hitler & Stalin put together.I know of a number of young ladies back then who thru oral copulation probably surpassed them as well. Hell might be the home of a lot more people then we realize after all.

Have a nice day ....Dudley1

I am a worthless troll.

Haha, don't give yourself that much credit...

Rob,

It seems you didn't study biology. I did; that's why I find the arguments unscientific. An embryo is simply one stage along the long line of development.

A fertilized egg (three stages: zygote, blastocyst, and embryo) is not alive in the sense that it is an independent life. Rather, it has the potential to become an independent life. Whether or not it does depends on many factors. Rather than try to give everyone a lesson in developmental biology, I suggest you look it up yourself. (Fascinating stuff!)

The ahistorical part I mentioned above: traditionally, life was thought to begin with quickening. While this point is just as random on the developmental path as any other, it has historical legitimacy that the "life begins at conception" notion does not.

All this is separate from the moral arguments over an embryo's status. If that's where you want to make your arguments, go ahead. But your arguments based on science are, shall we say, lacking. (BTW, how does it feel to have Prosper nail you on your "sperm and egg" gaffe?)

Finally, I'm in the People's Republic of Mexifornia, so I neither know nor care about elections in Missouri.

Rob, we normally agree on most things, and I'm not trying to antagonize you. However, your posting on this topic was sub-par.