I kind of agree with you Denny. But with Rosie gone, maybe I can tune in now and again to check out Hasselback. She's kind of hot, but not hot enough to listen to the portly pig.

I have never wasted one minute watching The View. My choice. I think i am going to beat the next person who says "that offends me" to death. the whole point of living in this county is that we are free (or supposed to be) to say what we want, eat what we want, associate or not with others, etc.
Don't remember who said it, but I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Because if you can't say what you want, then neither can I.

I respectfully disagree with you, Denny. I've hated that fat pig since she made a fool of Tom Selleck on her show, when she said every American gun owner belongs in prison.

Yes, we do have freedom of speech. But some people can be tactful about it, while others cannot...

Marksman2000,

The fat stupid ugly dyke made a fool of herself, not Tom Selleck. Here's the transcript:

Rosie: We're here with Tom Selleck who's a member of the NRA. Three months ago you joined the NRA.
Tom: I did. I actually joined to do an ad. Because, I've done a lot of consensus work for like the last 7 to 8 years and what disturbs me and I think disturbs a lot of Americans is the whole idea of politics now-a-days which seems to be, "if you disagree with me, you must be evil" as opposed to "if you disagree with me, you must be stupid". That's very American. You know, the demonizing of a group like the NRA is very disturbing. And that coupled with the idea that the government is getting into the idea of suing. We did it for noble reasons with tobacco. I think it was a mistake. Then they moved to gun makers, now they're suing television shows. Oliver Stone there's a suit on his movie. I think the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and all of the Bill of Rights are extremely important. And somebody needs to stand up at times where...maybe some of our politicians are demagogue-ing issues. Reasonable people should disagree in this country; we should celebrate that, not consider it a threat.
Rosie: Right, but I think that the reason that people are so extreme against the NRA is because the NRA has such a militant strength, especially a power in Washington to veto or to stronghold any sensible gun law. They have been against every sensible gun law, until yesterday, including trigger locks, so that children, which there are 500 a year that die, don't get killed.
Tom: I'm not a spokesman for the NRA. In fact, all I can tell you is, I was a member when I was kid. I was a junior NRA member. I learned firearm safety. And from what I can see in the last three months, they don't do a lot of the stuff that you assume that they do.
Rosie: I don't assume.
Tom: They are for trigger locks. The NRA is for a lot of things as long as they're voluntary.
Rosie: They're against the registering of guns. We have to register cars. Why shouldn't we register guns so that when a crime is committed we can trace who has owned it?
Tom: You know, I understand how you feel. This is a really contentious issue. Probably as contentious, and potentially as troubling as the abortion issue in this country. All I can tell you is, rushes to pass legislation at a time of national crisis or mourning, I don't really think are proper. And more importantly, nothing in any of this legislation would have done anything to prevent that awful tragedy in Littleton. What I see in the work I've done with kids is, is troubling direction in our culture. And where I see consensus, which is I think we ought to concentrate on in our culture is...look...nobody argues anymore whether they're Conservatives or Liberal whether our society is going in the wrong direction. They may argue trying to quantify how far it's gone wrong or why it's gone that far wrong, whether it's guns, or television, or the Internet, or whatever. But there's consensus saying that something's happened. Guns were much more accessible 40 years ago. A kid could walk into a pawn shop or a hardware store and buy a high capacity magazine weapon that could kill a lot of people and they didn't do it. The question we should be asking is...look...suicide is a tragedy. And it's a horrible thing. But 30 or 40 years ago, particularly men, and even young men, when they were suicidal, they went, and unfortunately, blew their brains out. In today's world, someone who is suicidal sits home, nurses their grievance, develops a rage, and is just a suicidal but they take 20 people with them. There's something changed in our culture. That's not a simple...
Rosie: But you can't say that guns don't bear a responsibility. If the makers of the TEC-9 assault rifle... Why wouldn't the NRA be against assault rifles? This is a gun that can shoot five bullets in a second. This is the gun that those boys brought into the school. Why the NRA wouldn't say as a matter of compromise, "we agree, assault weapons are not good"?
Tom: I'm not...I can't speak for the NRA.
Rosie: But you're their spokesperson Tom, so you have to be responsible for what they say.
Tom: But I'm not a spokesperson. I'm not a spokesperson for the NRA.
Rosie: But if you put your name out and say, "I, Tom Selleck..."
Tom: (Visibly upset) Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not a spokesperson. Remember how calm you said you'd be? Now you're questioning my humanity.
Rosie: No, not your humanity. I think you're a very humane man. I'm saying that if you...
Tom: Let's just say that I disagree with you but I think you're being stupid.
Rosie: But you can't say that 'I will not take responsibility for anything the NRA represents' if you're saying that you're going to do an ad for the NRA.
Tom: Really?
Rosie: You can't say that. Do you think you can?
Tom: Look...you're carefully skirting the issue. It's an act of moral vanity, Rosie, to assume that someone who disagrees with your political agenda to solve our problems, cares any less or is any less shocked...
Rosie: I never said you cared less.
Tom: Well, let me finish...
Rosie: Tom, I don't think you cared less. Nor do I think the men in the NRA cared less.
Tom: The women too.
Rosie: And the women. I simply said, why can there not be a compromise on the issue...
Tom: There IS a compromise! There's a compromise in enforcing laws. There's a compromise with not allowing kids with guns in school. The problem is, and what you don't seem to realize...you seem to have some sort of...look, we all hang out with people we agree with. And you have a very one-sided view of the fact of what you don't understand...
Rosie: (Cutting in) As does the NRA and the people you hang out with at the NRA have a one-sided view as well.
Tom: I don't hang out with people of the NRA...
Rosie: OK, well, you're saying that I hang out with people with my views. I'm just saying...
Tom: I said people tend to...
Rosie: (Cutting in) We all tend to. The NRA does and the un-NRA does.
Tom: You know, this is a nice one-sided conversation but you keep interrupting me. Remember how civil you said we were going to be?
Rosie: I let you talk for four minutes without saying one thing! (Medium audience applause.) I did. I didn't say one thing! I simply asked a question on what their philosophies are. And you don't want to...
Tom: I told you...look, when do you want to get to television and violence...
Rosie: (Raising her right hand) I agree! I agree.
Tom: ...and game shows...
Rosie: Game shows?
Tom: ...and how do you reconcile...
Rosie: You mean video games? I agree!
Tom: (Visibly upset, trying to make Rosie be quiet) Please let me finish! (Audience chuckles.) Let me say just one thing. What you're really talking about...at least what I'm talking about...is are we a responsible enough society, in terms of television, in terms of guns, in terms of everything else, to be this free? That should frame the debate. My answer unfortunately, in this culture, is "probably not". But I'm going to go down with the Civil Liberties ship, and all the Bill of Rights, and apply them equally. That's the way I feel. You can ask me specific questions about anything, but it's simply stupid political rhetoric.
Rosie: Well, it's not stupid political rhetoric. We also have freedom of speech, but you're not allowed to scream "fire" in a crowded movie theater because it threatens the safety of other people.
Tom: I understand.
Rosie: Assault weapons threaten the safety of other people. There's no reason, in my opinion, to have them. You want to have a hunting rifle? Great! You want to have a handgun? (She holds her hand up and nods her head as if to say, "great".)
Tom: Do you really think the Second Amendment to the Constitution to guarantee hunting and target shooting? Do you really think that's what the Founding Fathers meant?
Rosie: I think the Second Amendment is in the Constitution so that we can have muskets when the British people come over in 1800. I don't think it's in the Constitution to have assault weapons in the year 2000. But I'm wrong? I guess...
Tom: (Remains silent, is a bit frustrated, and simply nods his head, yes)
Rosie: You know, this is the problem. Here's what happens. The people with opposing views, there is no compromise because, you feel attacked, I feel attacked. You feel less understood...
Tom: (Calmly) I haven't attacked you. I've disagreed with you.
Rosie: And I've disagreed with you as well. But mine comes in the form of attacking because...
Tom: I haven't mentioned assault weapons once. I haven't mentioned a lot of things once. The nature of this debate... I didn't come on your show to have a debate. I came on your show to plug a movie. That's what's I'm doing here.
Rosie: And that's what we did.
Tom: If you think it's proper to have a debate about the NRA, I'm trying to be fair with you.
Rosie: As I am trying to...
Tom: But this is absurd. You're calling me a spokesman for the NRA.
Rosie: Tom, if you are a celebrity and you're doing an ad that says, "I am the NRA", then what should have been...
Tom: Have you read the ads?
Rosie: I have read the ads.
Tom: Good.
Rosie: Did YOU read the ads?
Tom: I said them. I read them when I said them.
Rosie: Well, I do too. Well, this is not supposed to be a personal...
Tom: Well it's certainly very entertaining, look at the audience, they're just laughing and having a great old time.
Rosie: Well it's a serious subject. I don't think it's a lot to laugh about.
Tom: (Frustrated) Well, that's fine.
Rosie: Alright, well, this has not gone the way I had hoped it had gone. But, I would like to thank you for appearing anyway, knowing that we have differing views. I was happy that you decided to come on the show. And if you feel insulted by my questions, I apologize, because it was not a personal attack. It was meant to bring up the subject as it is in the consciousness of so many today. That was my intent. And if it was wrong, I apologize to you, on a personal level.
Tom: (Frustrated, Tom speaks quietly) It's your show and you can talk about it after I leave too.
Rosie: Well, I thought I would give you an opportunity to discuss your side of it. Which is what I hope that I did. And if I was wrong I'm sorry.
Tom: (Tom smiles and makes a facial expression with body language as if to say, "Yea, right.")
Rosie: Well, obviously, it didn't do much good.

Damn RC-
Just reading that made we want to punch a hole in my monitor! What a stupid cunt!

I remember when that went down, but I never actually saw it and never looked into seeing it. YouTube here I come...

Typical of a liberal pig like rosie to get hysterical and emotional about something she knows nothing about. Typical of a liberal pig like rosie to interrupt during a sneak-attack debate. Tom Selleck showed tact and logic, and that's impressive because I would've unloaded on that cunt bitch!

Gotta love Magnum P.I.!

Conservatives usually have a lot more class than liberals.

Who gives a fuck? Rosie and Imus both suck a big one. And there buddy Trump also.

Tom Selleck, Cool guy, right up there with John Wayne and Clint Eastwood with the cowboy personna (except I think Clint's now gone over to the liberal side based on some of his recent movies). Denny, I don't think Rosie was canned because of the reasons you suggested. I'd be willing to bet that the network is getting a lot of bad PR and complaints regarding her ridiculous feud with trump and other behaviors that are more personal in nature and have nothing to do with that wast of time show she's on. Nevertheless, I think it was a decision based on loss of revenue because of her. Nothing more, nothing less.

Denny, the first amendment provides protection from the gov't not wackos, bosses, RWPP, etc.... Other than that I agree with catfish.

Denny.......

You are right, while there is a certain gratification to be felt in a slug like Rosie getting the boot.......It is far better to leave Rosie & those like her exposed to prime time so when anybody wonders if they are ignorant fools & they open their pie holes,all doubt is removed. It is those who have a propensity to hide their true position you need to worry about , not the Rosie`s of this world however ignorant or repulsive they may be.

As people like Rosie always manage to find an outlet for their screeds... not to mention blanket coverage by every reporter in the vicinity... I don't see the problem.

In the case of Imus, he was booted off the air for capitalistic purposes. A fine use of our system if I might say so. After all, isn't that the American way?

When we don't like something in this country - we vote with our pocketbook. If you get enough people to vote with you - you win and the person gets the boot. In Rosie's case I'm not quite sure why she's getting the boot as ratings have been up for the show lately. I don't know if sponsors have been affected by boycotts or if she pissed off the wrong people in high places. The funniest part of this is that the socialist/liberals who created the ruckus with Imus - used the very system they despise to get rid of him. I find that hilarious.

What I would not find hilarious or even remotely acceptable would be if the government got involved and took them off the air for spouting their nonsense. They should be allowed to spout their crap - they should also take the heat for it when they piss off enough people. THAT'S the American way.

denny- I am sorry to see her go too because she opens the curtains of true liberal dogma to a lot of people that don't read the papers, blogs, or think for themselves. She defined liberal dialouge which is great.

This is however capitalism at work. You know, I know, and the american people know, that ABC came back and offered her minimum wage or somesuch to chase her off. They are afraid she'd lose them $. plain and simple. she will get another venue though.

The worst part - she wasn't fired.

She wouldnt' sign onto a 3-year contract.

That's right. ABC thought enough of her they wanted her GAAAURAAANTEEEED for 3! More! Years!

Rosie would only agree to 1 year for $10M. Instead of 3 for $30.

Guys, this isn't a time to be happy she's leaving, this is a time to be dismayed that after the "fire can't melt steel" trutherism, the constant dimwittery - ABC wanted her for a long-term contract.

I will miss both of them. Just because they both spoke from the heart and are passionate about their beliefs. Imus is a crabby old fart but I still like him. And Rosie is the voice of all mother's who abhore the war in Iraq. She is my voice.

Teresa......

Your mother was a Bull Dyke with a voice like a longshoreman with a chest cold & munched carpets?

So Teresa - Do you believe 9/11 was an inside job like Rosie does?

Teresa, try the Listerine.

Your welcome.

My Mother doesn't abhore OIF, she in fact embraces it. She's my Mom, and she is aware of the threat to her children. Just because you put a "mothers" label on you rhetoric doesn't pull the wool over our eyes!

It's funny how "mothers against __________" always attach "mother" in there somewhere to snipe more emotional bullshit! Give it a rest. You aren't fooling anyone, but yourselves!

Hey Rosie I was just thinking about the reason a Blacksmith heats up a METAL horse shoe before he hits it with the hammer to alter its shape>>>
I think he would have stopped many years ago if the Horse shoe melted!!!

To Dudley1; your post made me laugh the most. How 6th grade of you. Denny, I do not support Rosie's 9-11 views about WTC 7. Everything else, yes. And to CharlieDelta, I would never diss another Mother. She has her views and I have mine. I am not trying to pull any emotional bullshit on anyone. Last I checked, there is still freedom of speach here in the USA. I am not ashamed of opposing the war in Iraq. And according to the polls, most of us are.

Teresa.....

At least you are partially correct. As to supporting the war in Iraq or anywhere, no one least of all me really wants a war, however you & those who feel that to just bring home the troops is the answer, forget this war was brought to us.... Walking away with out a victory will only insure another one with serious consequence to the American heartland.

This is what responsible citizens understand when they accept reality & understand while war is not the choice wanted, sometimes it is the only choice the country has. The problem we have now in this country is the LSM feels making news is more important then to present it & the political agenda of the Liberal left socialists is more important than patriotism. Teresa, the truth is there , you just won`t find it on ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,NPR or any of the news outlets in allegiance to the liberal left.

Rosies Replacement......

I see they are considering Roseann Barr to replace Rosie O`dyke......She is almost as stupid, probably more obnoxious & I can`t stand her either, Oh well,I certainly hope she doesn`t try to sing our National Anthym again.

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