I blame Bush.

France is the country most germans want to invade......

French wartime president "Adolf Hitler" said basically the same thing & tried to get the Vichy government to mount a campaign to encourage tourism, but since they no longer had anybody left to surrender to, it never came to be.

Here is one of the proposed travel poster headlines....."France the crown jewel of the colonial empire of the Third Reich" Bet that would have drawn huge crowds.

We can't beat france, I'm scared. We have lost already. I love the french, give me a bordeaux medoc cruse anytime. Let's just sign the treaty and give up!

sallyanncavenaugh

You can't blame the French for hating themselves so much. They can't have much self esteem knowing the only war they ever won was the French Revolution.

A man with a French wife brought home a monkey.
Upon seeing it his wife started objecting, "what will it eat?"
"It will eat at the table with us."
"Where will it sleep?"
"It will share our bed."
"What about the horrible smell?"
"I got used to it, and so can the monkey."

Sory there Prosper, couldn't resist. ;-)

This just underlines the fact the French are very critic and don't admire themselves. They critic even more other countries. To be critical is a good think, it means you think independently and you don't behave as a sheep.

You can question others behavior as long as you are able to question yours. This is what they are doing.

"Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics"

You remember that article you posted? Don't rely to much on stats Denis.

FRENCH MILITARY VICTORIES:

Long list of supposed military victories by my latest French troll. Took up too much space so I deleted them. I could post as many French defeats. I must have hit a nerve. GOC.

Not to mention how many French soldiers died defending their country. We also beat you by far on that one.

You can use that white flag to wipe your crying nose...

And one more thing: Vientnam: you lost, Irak: you lost (France wasn't on your side like in 1991)

French are very experienced at war games, sometimes it's good to listen to older people you know kids?

Well we'll talk about that in 10 years when we'll be stuck with you in Iran... 'cause I am pretty sure France will want to invade Iran.

It's not like Irak, Iran is REALLY making WMD...

;)

Diplomate go f*** yourself:

here it's in French so will understand:
allez vous faire foutre

Diplomate,
Post a real e-mail address. We aren't barbarians.
Your post is a long list of French accomplishments. The winds of war have indeed favored your military a few times, and when that wind is at your back, I feel no army on earth can stand and face you.
Everyone, read into it before you thrash me.

Diplomate......

You must be one of the damn few Frenchmen who actually can get upset, combative & patriotic.....It is a start!

Your reward is I will not trash your list of military accomplishments .......this time

A short list of American victories.
I didn't bother with the exact year and other information. all one needs to do is put the name into any search engine to get the details.
I do believe that our list is some where darn close, and it from only 231 Years. I didn't include any of the many battles fought with the indians either because sure as shit, some Lakota would rub the little big horn in my face, plus many of those were more like massacres.
Dersert Storm
Panama Invasion
Operation Praying Mantis
Grenada
Vietnam
Khe Sanh
Tet
Heartbreak Ridge
Bloody Ridge
Porkchop hill 1
Pusan
WW1
Cantigny
Meuse Argonne
Saint Mihiel
Vittorio Veneto
Sambre
Chateau Thierry
Second battle of the Marne
Belleau Wood
Cantigny
WW2
Coral Sea
Midway
Guadacanal
Saipan
Leyete
Aachen
Hurtgen Forest
Anguar
Tinian
Guam
Peleliu
Operation Dragoon
Philipine Sea
Normandy
Eniwetok
Kwajalein
Cisterna
Makin
Monte Casino
Anzio
Rabaul
Aleutian Islands
New Georgia
Komandorski Islands
Bismark Sea
Blackett Strait
Buna Gona
Milne bay
Empress Augusta Bay
Battle Of cape St. George
Marianas Turkey Shoot
Liberation of Paris
Leyete Gulf
Visayas
Mindanao
Los Banos
Bataan
Cabanatuan
Battle of the Buldge
Luzon
Mindoro
Ormoc bay
Corrigador
Liberation of Manila
Tarawa
Iwo Jima
Okinowa
Truk
New Brittian
Operation varsity
US Civil War
Vicksburg
Gettysburg
Antietam
Pea Ridge
Nashville
New Madrid
Memphis
Chattanooga
Shiloh
Shenandoah Valley
Atlanta
Mobile
Cedar Creek
Franklin
Five Forks
Saylers Creek
I suppose I could list every battle won by the Confederacy as well since they technically are American Victories.
Revolution
Saratoga
Yorktown
Lexington
Concord
Trenton
Princeton
Monmouth
Kettle Creek
War of 1812
Great Lakes
Lake Champlain
New Orleans
USS Constitution vs Guerriere
USS United States vs Macedonian
Spanish American war
Guam
Guanica
San Juan Hill
Mexican war
Siege of Ft Texas
Palo Alto
Resaca dela Palma
Santa Fe
Monterrey
Rio San Gabriel
La Mesa
Canada
Mora
Embudo Pass
Pueblo de Taos
Buena Vista
Sacramento
Veracruz
Cerro Gordo
Tuxpan
Tabasco
Contreras
Churubusco
Molino del Rey
Chapultepec
Mexico City
Huamantla
Puebla

One last comment on Diplomate's posts, We can not compare the numbers of French to the numbers of Americans who have died defending their lands. We can however compare the number of Americans who have died liberating France to the number of French who have died liberating the USA.

Diplomate - I could post an equally long series of French defeats. After Vercingetorix defeated Caesar, Caesar went on a rampage. In his last battle he cut off the hands of all the male Gauls in the city he defeated. Gaul was pretty much pacified for the rest of the existence of the Western Empire.

It's funny you brought up Viet Nam. Unlike us, you got your ass kicked. We won every battle but lost at home. Tet was a disaster for the North Vietnamese army. Fortunately for them, we had traitors at home like John Kerry, Jane Fonda, and Walter Cronkite.

You can say what you want, but history shows we had to bail your sorry asses out of WWI and WWII.

How did Hitler get all those tanks? He built them while you were busy appeasing him. You could have stopped him when he went into the Rhineland but you (and the Brits) did nothing. No one would listen to Churchill.

Who gives a fuck about all the French who died? It was your fucking war. We had to come over and bail you out, while at the same time we had to fight the Japanese. Then we gave you money to rebuild your country, and you hate us for it.

We didn't need your help in GWI. Your contributions were miniscule.

You'll help us in Iran? What a fucking joke! You'll be appeasing Iran and if we have to take out Iran, we'll have to do it alone because you guys are a bunch of pussies. You'll probably oppose us just like you opposed us in Iraq.

The next time you put up a long comment like the one with all your "victories" it will be deleted. You use up too much of my storage space with bullshit.

Now go fuck yourself.

To hate the French is pointless. It is the same as hating a child with Down Syndrome or an ex-wife that has been dead for ten years. Kind of like hating the little dweeb with the big mouth that got the crap beat out of him every week in JR High School thirty years ago.
What is the point? The French are French. Can't do nothin bout that.

I like the monkey story.

The French hate themselves because they are liberals. All liberals hate themselves, and long for either their own deaths, or to be dominated by the sacred Other (i.e., people who are most unlike themselves: non-white non-Christian non-Westerners). That's why the Froggies are letting all those Moslems in: both wishes comes true.

Who would the Germans borrow the soldiers from to fight the three frenchmen that would be willing to fight for their country? Just got corrected, one of the 85 year old Frenchmen died so there are now only two to defend the country.

"Thursday's poll said 74 percent of Americans said whoever wins the second round of France's presidential election on May 6 should try to improve relations with the United States."

-Whoever wins the second round of France's presidential election on May 6 should say, "thank you", and stand WITH US for once instead of shitting on us!

Until then, France can fuck off! And all of you Americans that give a shit about what France thinks of us can fuck off too!

NO, CD, everyone should give a shit about what France thinks of us, because when they start liking us, we are getting too darn liberal. Its the acid test we don't want to pass.

Jeremy's list of American victories is impressive but I would comment that I find the list of Civil War victories as not being quite so victorious.

" US Civil War
Vicksburg
Gettysburg
Antietam
Pea Ridge
Nashville
New Madrid
Memphis
Chattanooga
Shiloh
Shenandoah Valley
Atlanta
Mobile
Cedar Creek
Franklin
Five Forks
Saylers Creek
I suppose I could list every battle won by the Confederacy as well since they technically are American Victories"

This list is pretty sad when you consider that good and decent people wearing either the Blue or the Gray died in that war. I understand and agree with the cause to perserve the Union and free the Slaves but from a historical point of view, I wish we were able to resolve these matters by peaceful means.

Cheers

scaryguy............

You make a good point......If all Americans took civic responsibility seriously & voted intelligently every election to assure honest, patriotic & committed politicians to do the right thing were elected.......Most situations that end in military confrontations would not happen & in those situations that required war , the response to the need would be massive, overwhelming with victory assured & far lower casulties , at least for our side.

"When force comes into play, talk doesn't matter anymore!"

(or something like that)

--Jimmy Stewart, in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, a must-see movie for anyone who believes in Right and Wrong.

All wars ultimately come down to one side trying to "convince" another by force. Either the other has the will and the means to defend themselves, or they get trampled.

France could have defeated Germany--easily--early on. The Germans were ready to remove Hitler if his Sudetenland plans met with French intervention. France might have done serious damage to the German invasion had they not surrendered immediately. No will, no defense.

Neutral Denmark was invaded and occupied by Germany: limited means.

Neutral Switzerland was left alone by Germany. Both the will and the means.

I hope we all have our guns (handguns and rifles and shotguns) and plenty of ammo, and that we hit the range frequently.

Scary Guy,
I acknowledge what you say regarding our civil war battles. In diplomates list, he had battles from the french revultion. That is why I included battles from ours. It was and is still today a national tragedy.

Another French war.....

A french cruise ship sinks in the south pacific. the french crew all abandoned ship , crammed into two life boats & made their way to a nearby deserted Island. In the morning ,the crew took stock of the situation ...first they counted everybody & found 51 people were present, second they began to search for food, water & shelter.

Around noon they noticed on an adjacent Island another survivor had erected a small shelter , found water & had a cooler full of food. What really pissed the french off was he was an American passenger they had abandoned & he was flying the Stars & Stripes from a makeshift flagpole.......He looked at them & gave them the finger.

This pissed the French so much about half of them jumped into one of the life boats & went over to kick the crap out of the American, upon reaching the beach, the American gave them the finger again & ran into his shelter, well 26 Frenchmen went after him while the remaining 25 French on the first island watched from afar. A heavy fog soon covered the Americans Island, & yelling screaming & cries for help along with the thud of multiple blows soon ensued. When silence reigned supreme,the 25 Frenchmen still on Island one jumped into the second lifeboat to go over & help celebrate victory.

When their boat touched the beach , they found one lone bloody & beaten French survivor who told them to retreat........it was a trap as there was {2} americans in the shelter not {1}.

This is another French victory because one survived to tell the tale.

Your obsession with France is really pathetic. It proves one thing .YOUR BIG JEALOUSY. We do not care of you in France. With your little 200 years shabby history. No roots,no identity,fake and gaudy culture. Pathetic mongrel land. The whole earth vomit you. We can see the big performance of the USIAN army in IRAQ.Shot like rabbits by kalashnikov rag guerillas.You know to make wars only by dropping bombs from 15000 feets.French army could give you war lessons.You should try in YOUESSAY,instead always overseas, only to experience it. Stay on your island,playing war disguised in SS uniforms,like mongoloid children.Maybe your little puppet George is waiting orders from his hidden boss, before to invade Iran. Mean little losers jerks.

Dude - The French army could give us war lessons? In what? Surrender? You do realize that surrender is a French word don't you?

I hate to piss in your cheese, but 42 posts about what a bunch of assholes you are is hardly an obsession. It's just so much fun to pick on you guys because you are so pathetic. Now you, on the other hand, by your statements, indicate a severe inferiority complex. It really bothers you that we're more powerful than you ever were. That our economy is so much better than yours (twice the growth half the unemployment). In a little over 200 years we have achieved what you never did in your "glorious" history. We even had to kick Hitler out of your country since you were unable to do it yourselves. You were to busy collaborating. Then we had to pay to rebuild your country, since you were unable to and you hate us for it. Sory Frenchy but you're on your way to Third World status. You'll soon be bowing and scraping to your Moo-slime masters just like you bowed and scraped to your German masters.

Your sick obsession about WW2 is really the sign that you are a deep frustrated mental patient.Nobody cares anymore in Europe with all these antique bullshits.French and Germans are friends for more than 40 years and the best economical partners, and do not give a shit about all these antique craps.95% of the French and German teenagers even ignore that a war took place in Europe more than 60 years ago. It is only losers like you that are obsessed with these bullshits. And concerning your seedy jokes about surrender, you should open more often history books,ASSHOLE. All Europe surrendered to Hitler during WW2, except England, because for the single reason that it is an island.During the attack of Russia by German forces in 1941,MORE THAN 3 MILLIONS RUSSIAN SOLDIERS SURRENDERED,IGNORANT PRICK.BUT,BECAUSE IT WAS A VAST TERRITORY,IT BECAME LITTLE BY LITTLE THE CEMETARY OF THE GERMAN ARMY. And, after 4 years of a terrible war, THE SOVIET TROOPS WERE THE TRUE WINNERS OF WW2 IN EUROPE.It certainly helped dday to not be a big disaster for Yankee troops, and avoid a big number of US POWS like in the BATTLE OF THE BULGE or in ITALY.As usual, YOU CAME AT THE END TO FINISH THE JOB, mostly to protect your interests.You did not care of European peoples, including the French.And concerning this so called inferiority complex, THIS IS THE BETTER JOKE OF THE YEAR. I visited your marvelous place a few years ago,AND I CAN SAY THAT YOU ARE ONLY A BIG SHIT.No History no culture.A big majority of UGLY AND FOOLISH PEOPLE,absolutely ignorant of the world affairs.A bunch of primitive wankers like you. Maybe you have not yet digest your pathetic defeat in Vietnam with your army of degenerate junkies.It will be the same in IRAQ. GO TO LICK YOUR NEOCONS MASTERS GANG ASSES. Poor little dork.

Actually Dude, it's you that are obsessed with me since you have written these two totally incomprehensible diatribes. Sigh! I have to explain this to you assholes over and over again. No wonder you are no longer a world power.

I bring up WWII for many reasons.
1. It vaulted us into superpower status.
2. It effectively eliminated you as a world power.
3. Many brave Americans died to kick the Germans out of France.
4. You could have stopped Hitler in the early 30's (I fault Britain as well) but you appeased him and allowed him to rearm. Then we had to clean up your fucking mess for you.
5. We rebuilt your fucking country.
6. You have shown no gratitude for either 4 or 5 you cheese eating surrender monkey. I can unserstand why you want to forget about WWII.
7 Viet Nam? Does Bien Dien Phu ring a bell? We kicked ass in Viet Nam. It was the 5th column at home who lost the war for us.
8. How did that Algeria thing work out for you?
9. You're gonna get your ass kicked on the Ivory Coast.

You really are a pathetic little frog aren't you. And you really need to get over your obsession with me and your jealousy of the United States. Your glory has passed never to return and deep down inside you know it and can do nothing about it. Get ready to bow down to your Moo-slime masters in about another 15 years. There are more and more areas your police are afraid to enter, but your police are French aren't they.

*SLAP*!

The call-sign, "Zorro" says it all... we didn't even need to read what he wrote to realize what a kook he is.

No Boobage? Bummer.

No Saturday Bach? FUCK!

Have a safe trip Denny!

Zorro the Geek.....

So this is Denny`s latest troll from under the
French bridge of delusionment.

I guess you have to give him a little slack, after all he came by his anti-american feelings honestly from his mothers side. Mom could never understand why the American troops scorned her attentions after it was found she had spent the German occupation sucking any German Sausage available.

One item that did have a measure of truth was the referance of the Soviet troops being big winners in WW2, Yes, they did contribute greatly to the defeat of germany, Yes, they did suffer tremendous casulties & Yes after the German invasion they did rally to a patriotic call for the defense of the motherland. But this was an obvious choice.... while being faced with the German Blitzgreig in front of them was the fact behind them, Stalin`s communist party with fixed bayonets were prodding them forward with orders to shoot & kill all who refused.

I must admit surprise a Frenchmen would referance the spirit, sacrifice & contribution of the Soviet Forces, after all they accomplished & did something the French have not done in centuries........To Fight & Win

Too bad the lesson did not take hold!

Ahhh come on now people give the guy a break . He is just proud of his country. And he should be just look how pretty and romantic it is. Acres and acres of beutiful parks, if you dont mind all those little white crosses . Just imagine taking an evening stroll with one of the millions of very affordable prostitutes with the city softly glowing and sparkling with the lights of firetrucks and burning cars. And the language is so romantic , I belive its called Arabic. And just imagine the streets lined with fine lush carpets, They call those prayer rugs . Indeed a wonderful place to visit. I plan on going to visit someday And I'm taking my german sausage with me ....

I find it interesting that Zorro in one post complains that the USA has no culture, no history, etc and that we could take military lessons from the french and in the next post say that no one in france cares about the past, it's not important. (Well which is it? Is history important or not?) He then whines that the USA only came in at the end. They were doing so well. Maybe we should learn from our past "mistakes" and next time, when the muslims are slaughtering them, we should stay home, have a beer and watch tv.

Just for the record, I think Zorro's diatribe is juvenile and useless. I also disagree with him, in France we do care about America.

Many French are simply afraid of your system because let's face it, it's much more comfortable to only have 35 hours to work than 70 a week.

After that, all the big talks about economic power, military power and all that does not make a lot of sens in my everyday life. So I personally don't give a fuck. I live in the US now, and I manage to not work a lot and make even more money than in France. I don't care about WWII because I was not born at that time and that's irrelevant to me.

I do care when I'm called a coward based on facts I did not have any kind of control on (biased or not is not the question), I do care when I hear that French stinks as I wash every day, and I also don't like when people say French are arrogant as I am not.

I advise American readers to not pay attention to this angry little troll Zorro, he is nothing more than a pissed off child.

POOR DIPLOMAT. yankees spit on the french, and he even does not react.Tu donnes raison a tous ces gros beaufs connards incultes.Peut etre aurais tu fait un bon collabo sous le regime de Vichy? Ce sont des lopes dans ton genre qui donnent une image lamentable des Francais. POOR DENNY, stay in your padded room and continue to masturbate with your computer.You are the perfect good example of your incult mongrel race. And concerning FRANCE reconstruction after WW2, it was above all the French workers hands who did the job. MARSHALL dollars were not only for France.Your two twin towers were nothing compared to the war destructions in France. And it was like the end of the world for you.Poor innocent angels.You need to experience more than this to grow up, ASSHOLES. And concerning the so called Muslim power in France, i can reply that,maybe, the true president of USA is Ehud Olmer instead of Georgie Bushette.And if you are so obsessed by all this WW2 shit and the brave yankees troops who were slaughtered on the DDAY beaches, i can propound to send back the remains by DHL or FEDERAL EXPRESS. So, maybe you will definitively stop to bore us with these antique craps.

Zorro the Geek......

Denny is a good example of our incult mongrel race? Typical dipshit frog...insults his own ancestry.... Denny as well as myself can trace our ancestry back to Charlemange, King of the Holy Roman Empire, in fact we are thinking of returning to France to reclaim the crown & sharing the throne ruling over the pathetic masses of once was a mighty nation.

French hands rebuilt France after WW2.... so what! you had to do something, after all your noncombative status in WW2 "except for the free french force`s" kinda puts you in a poor light from a patriotic standpoint. I mean, even the halfstarved, ragged & downtrodden jews in the Ghetto of Warsaw Poland put up more of a fight then the entire nation of France, though they were well fed, clothed & in possession of probably the best equipped army available at the onset of WW2.

It is one thing to place great pride in the nation you are a citizen of but just what has France accomplished since the late 1800`s which would give rise to a sense of pride or patriotism?

You would like to send the remains of the American soldiers who liberated France back to the Unites States via DHL or Federal Express? The thought is appealing particulary to the families of the Soldiers who died to provide the freedom your last generation surrendered away. I propose another idea to you, put together work parties for exhumation of those remains & I am sure the American people will glady provide for their transportation back home to rest in peace in the soil of the nation of their birth with the thanks & gratitude of a great country who will honor the sacrifice they made.

When I read posts such as you have penned ....I understand why sometimes wild animals eat their young for they recognize early on the futility in allowing offspring as pathetic, weak & useless as one like you to grow to maturity & reproduce.

By the way Zorro....do you know what an antique really is?........... The only date a Frenchman can get when an American is in town.

Everyone keep harping on the WMD that didn't (but really did) exist, even a frenchie ahole. If Saddam had no WMD how in the hell did the U.N. weapons inspectors inspect and catalog them? They became lost when the U.N. decided they should become lost. More oil for food money changed hands. The left wing democrats and they're followers are so dense they scare me far more than the terrorist ever will. I'm waiting to see how many hundreds of thousands of you fools are killed by the non-existant WMD.
Do you know how a French admiral views his carrier fleet? Through a glass bottom boat.

Do you know how a democrat inspects his brain. Wipes his ass and looks at the paper.

For sale: French Army Rifles. Never fired, only dropped twice.

The sale of white linen shot up 10,000% when all of the democrats ordered they'e white flags. Was anyone in the linen market?
Next big market rise will be in black burlap. The democrats will need it to make Burka's for all of their female family members.

Hey Zorro, my forefather came over here from Alsace about a hundred and eighty years ago, you can come over too and then you will see exactly how fuckin'pussified the frenchies really are. You might even be one of my brothers cause when daddy got done knocking the snot out of Hitler he had time to show the french women how loving is supposed to be done.

Again and again, THE SAME CRAPS.Only incult usians can repeat always the same bullshits as,something the French have not done for centuries, FIGHT AND WIN, or other kinds of craps as French army riffles,NEVER FIRED, only dropped twice.IT PROVES YOUR STUPIDITY AND SILLINESS. Military history of FRANCE IS ONE OF THE MOST,if not the MOST glorious history of the world.Contrary to the bullshits that incult mongers can read on mongoloid sites as FRENCH MILITARY VICTORIES.France was a superpower on the European continent for centuries when you were still in the balls of your European ancestors.THERE ARE MANY MORE VICTORIES THAN DEFEATS THROUGH THE LONG FRENCH HISTORY.ALL THE WELL INFORMED HISTORIANS KNOW THIS.But, THE YANKEES MONGERS ONLY FOCUSE ON THIS 1940 ACCIDENT.what are 5 years on 2000 years of history? ASSHOLES JERKS. WW2 FRENCH CASUALTIES INCLUDING MILITARY AND CIVILIANS,WERE TWICE THE US CASUALTIES OF THIS WAR ON ALL FRONT IN A LARGELY DESTROYED COUNTRY.YOU ARE ALWAYS WHINING ABOUT YOUR LOSSES BUT ONLY IN ONE BATTLE CALLED VERDUN IN 1916,A BIG FRENCH VICTORY, BOTH FRENCH AND GERMAN CASUALTIES were the equivalent of all you losses OF ALL THE WARS OF YOUR SHABBY LITTLE HISTORY.AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TO BRING BACK THE REMAINS OF YANKEES TROOPS BURIED IN FRANCE IN THEIR HOMELAND. LET ME LAUGH,ASSHOLES WANKERS.THIS LAND IS NOT YOURS. you took it from the native AMERICANS after the biggest genocide of all human history.YOU ALWAYS BORE US WITH THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST,and YES IT WAS HORRIBLE.BUT YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT YOUR HOME HOLOCAUST.THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AMERINDIANS BY A MONGREL INVADER RACE COMING FROM EUROPE. GIVE BACK NORTH AMERICA TO THEIR OWNERS. CRIMINAL STINKY RACE. AND I DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE SOULS OF THE MILLIONS BLACK SLAVES WHO ARE STILL FLYING IN YOUR BRAVE HOMELAND. SO, BEFORE TO GIVE LESSONS TO OTHERS,LOOK FIRST AT YOURSELF,UGLY AND FILTHY CREATURES.80% OF THE FRENCH AND EUROPEANS DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU. YOU ARE IN TOTAL DECLINE.THE FIRST ECONOMICAL POWER IN THE WORLD IS EUROPE.AND SOON,CHINA IS GOING TO OVERFUCK YOU.STINKY MONGREL RACE.CONTINUE TO BURST IN IRAQ.MAYBE THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE.

Zoro ( or is that ZERO?):

It is not a matter of debate that the french lost more people that the Americans. - The American Army can fight and win.
The french army can't fight!
When you can't fight you tend to have more dead soldiers.
When you have more dead soldiers than the other side, you lose the war!

The Army with the most ALIVE soldiers at the end of the war is the winner. Has no one ever explained that in simple Frog speak to you?

I am thinking of sponsoring a french immigrant, I need a good, environmentally safe solution to the pests plaguing my garden. I have a big enough tomato patch to feed a village of frenchmen
No french women, I am alergic to penicillin!

Nosmo von Alterfurz

Knock knock...

..."who's there?"

Zorro...

..."Zorro who?"

The same Zorro who just got his dick knocked in the dirt by dudley1!

The same Zorro who should just go away until his balls drop.

The same Zorro who will never grow a pair...

...That Zorro.

Hey Zorro, you stupid fwench fuck, here's the truth about our "degenerate junkies" who fought in Nam, fuckface-

December 13, 2005
Nick Bacon USA 1SGT (RET.) Medal of Honor Recipient

After my retirement in 1984 from the U.S. Army, I worked for the VA Regional Office in Phoenix, AZ as a contact representative and as an adjudicator of claims. After a short period with VARO, I resigned and I went on to become a City Manager in Surprise, AZ for 3 years.

When I moved to Arkansas in 1990, I returned to assisting veterans with their claims. In 1993 I was appointed to the position of State Director of Veterans Affairs where I spent the next 12 years helping veterans and their families.

I was always surprised at the number of people claiming to have been Military Veterans, especially Vietnam Veterans. After opening the Arkansas State Veteran Cemetery several years ago, I was shocked to see so many of my VN brothers being buried. Then I received the following fact sheet from my good friend Major General (Ret.) David R. Bockel, Director of Army Affairs, Reserve Officers Association.

After the shock wears off, please send this information to all your address banks and local media. After so many years of misleading reports and unpleasant media comments; lets disseminate to this country the real truth, as painful as it may be.

My son, my younger brother, my nephews are still serving in harms way in the war on terrorism. Let's not let them be treated like we were so many years ago - Fight Now, Fight Strong and Fight as long as we have to.

God Bless America & God Bless Our Veterans

Nick Bacon

* * * * * * Subject: Vietnam Facts vs Fiction

For over 30 years I....like many Vietnam veterans....seldom spoke of Vietnam, except with other veterans, when training soldiers, and in public speeches. These past five years I have joined the hundreds of thousands who believe it is high time the truth be told about the Vietnam War and the people who served there. It's time the American people learn that the United States military did not lose the War, and that a surprisingly high number of people who claim to have served there, in fact, DID NOT.

As Americans, support the men and women involved in the War on Terrorism, the mainstream media are once again working tirelessly to undermine their efforts and force a psychological loss or stalemate for the United States. We cannot stand by and let the media do to today's warriors what they did to us 35 years a go.

Below are some assembled some facts most readers will find interesting. It isn't a long read, but it will....I guarantee...teach you some things you did not know about the Vietnam War and those who served, fought, or died there. Please share it with those with whom you communicate.

Vietnam War Facts: Facts, Statistics, Fake Warrior Numbers, and Myths Dispelled

9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the official Vietnam era from August 5, 1964 to May 7, 1975.
2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam Vietnam Veterans represented 9.7% of their generation.
240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.
58,148 were killed in Vietnam
75,000 were severely disabled
23,214 were 100% disabled
5,283 lost limbs
1,081 sustained multiple amputations Of those killed, 61% were younger than 21
11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old Of those killed, 17,539 were married Average age of men killed: 23.1 years Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old. The oldest man killed was 62 years old. As of January 15, 2 004, there are 1,875 Americans still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War
97% of Vietnam Veterans were honorably discharged
91% of Vietnam Veterans say they are glad they served
74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age groups. Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent.
87% of Americans hold Vietnam Veterans in high esteem. There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group (Source: Veterans Administration Study) Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.
85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to civilian life. Interesting Census Stats and "Been There" Wanabees:
1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August,
1995 (census figures). ~ During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958. ~ As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and '00. That's 390 per day. During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.

The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military personnel as having served in-country. Corrections and confirmations to this errored index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and accessible 24/7/365).

Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. - Nixon Presidential Papers

Common Myths Dispelled:

Myth: Common Belief is that most Vietnam veterans were drafted. Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers.

Myth: The media have reported that suicides among Vietnam veterans range from 50,000 to 100,000 - 6 to 11 times the non-Vietnam veteran population. Fact: Mortality studies show that 9,000 is a better estimate. "The CDC Vietnam Experience Study Mortality Assessment showed that during the first 5 years after discharge, deaths from suicide were 1.7 times more likely among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam veterans. After that initial post-service period, Vietnam veterans were no more likely to die from suicide than non-Vietnam veterans. In fact, after the 5-year post-service period, the rate of suicides is less in the Vietnam veterans' group.

Myth: Common belief is that a disproportionate number of blacks were killed in the Vietnam War. Fact: 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races. Sociologists Charles C. Moskos and John Sibley Butler, in their recently published book "All That We Can Be," said they analyzed the claim that blacks were used like cannon fodder during Vietnam "and can report definitely that this charge is untrue. Black fatalities amounted to 12 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia, a figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S. population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of blacks in the Army at the close of the war."

Myth: Common belief is that the war was fought largely by the poor and uneducated. Fact: Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better. Here are statistics from the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF) as of November 1993. The CACF is the basis for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
(The Wall): Average age of 58,148 killed in Vietnam was 23.11 years.
(Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 database, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were listed as missing in action) Deaths Average Age Total: 58,148, 23.11 years Enlisted: 50,274, 22.37 years Officers: 6,598, 28.43 years Warrants: 1,276, 24.73 years E1 525, 20.34 years
11B MOS: 18,465, 22.55 years

Myth: The common belief is the average age of an infantryman fighting in Vietnam was 19. Fact:: Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age.

Myth: The Common belief is that the domino theory was proved false. Fact: The domino theory was accurate. The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America's commitment in Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism.

Myth: The common belief is that the fighting in Vietnam was not as intense as in World War II. Fact: The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served. Although the percent that died is similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300 percent higher than in World War II ....75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled. MEDEVAC helicopters flew nearly 500,000 missions. Over 900,000 patients were airlifted (nearly half were American). The average time lapse between wounding to hospitalization was less than one hour. As a result, less than one percent of all Americans wounded, who survived the first 24 hours, died. The helicopter provided unprecedented mobility. Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the Geneva Accords or 1962 would secure the border).

Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June 1972.....shown a million times on American television....was burned by Americans bombing Trang Bang. Fact: No American had involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently living in the United States. Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut, who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village. Recent reports in the news media that an American commander ordered the air strike that burned Kim Phuc are incorrect. There were no Americans involved in any capacity. "We (Americans) had nothing to do with controlling VNAF," according to Lieutenant General (Ret) James F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phuc's brothers were killed in this incident. They were Kim's cousins not her brothers.

Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam. Fact: The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a major military defeat for the VC and NVA.

THE UNITED STATES DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIETNAM, THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID. Read on........

The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American military left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973.

How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of US. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia (primarily Cambodia) the first two years after the fall of Saigon in 1975 then there were during the ten years the U.S. was involved in Vietnam. Thanks for the perceived loss and the countless assassinations and torture visited upon Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians goes mainly to the American media and their undying support-by-misrepresentation of the anti-War movement in the United States.

As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam. The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth.

Did you read that, Zero, I mean Zorro? Now go fuck yourself, dickhead. You fwench "men" are pussies, and have been for decades.

long and boring diatribe. A little pathetic. Like a wounded animal.The French do not have to prove their militaries abilities,they did it during ten times long your little 200 years shabby history, incult mongrels.Nobody forced you to interfere in Vietnam ten years after the French withdrawal.It was your shit. You took it and you was fucked.Nobody can win against the guerilla, EVEN NAPALM AND B52S.It seems that this lesson was not enough for you. It will be the same in Iraq.I think that YOUESS army could do a better job in hamburger obese land with your mexican mafia, your marvelous black ghetto dealers and your facist KKK and rednecks gangs in your backwards deep south red states.YOU ARE RULED BY A GANG OF THIEVES AND SWINDLERS AND AS USUAL YOU SEE NOTHING. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF BRAINWASHED ASSHOLES. FUCK NEOCONS AND FUCK YOURSELVES. I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT WE DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU IN EUROPE.

Yes, France may become great again soon. It may become one of the great prizes in the islamic world.

Learn Arabic Zorro. So you will know what your islamic masters want. Even Mexico defeated the French Army, and Mexico does not exactly have a long list of military achievements.

Arabs have no power in France,ASSHOLE.But in your case, this is already a long time that your shit place called USA is an Israel colony.And concerning your military efficiency, DO YOU REMEMBER YOUR LITTLE ETHIOPIAN ESCAPADE? You are only an army of gay cowards.A BUNCH OF CRYBABIES SISSYPUSSIES. Stay in your shithole, and play war disguised in SS uniforms,watching saving private Ryan hollywwod bullshits.

Zorro the geek......

You are a shining example of modern day European Intelligensia......the big mystery to the rest of the world is why would Germany ever have wanted to conquer a country filled with people as dumb as the likes of you. What could you ever have been trained for? Even a circus has but a limited need for clowns.

You say the Arabs have no power in France.....Guess again Idiot, they are still a minority but are gaining ground & influence rapidly, they know what to do with people such as you if there be no place for maladroit infidal slugs in the coming islamic country of Frankistan.The sword of Islam will fall on your neck not ours. You need a better policy to deal with the muslims other then learning how to say "We Surrender"

French military victories.......Bullshit! you guys could not fight your way into or out of a gay bar let alone conduct a meaningful war campaign. The only force you ever have had in the modern era that was willing let alone able to fight was the French Foreign Legion comprised mainly of foreign volunteers & until Degaulle gave away Algeria not allowed on home French soil."....." Did not want to make the home troops look bad"

The French proved their military abilities.....Yes, you sure have...... defeated by the Russian & their ally winter,defeated at Waterloo,stalemated by the Germans in WW1, Defeated by the Germans in WW2, Defeated by the North Vietnamese at Dien Bein Phu, Defeated by the Arabs in Algeria. Do you see a pattern here? you should, you country is a washed up sorry excuse of what once was a superpower.

You still cling to the last remnants of a colonial empire that spawned much of the racial intolerance so common in the Caribbean & South Pacific.Don`t preach to us about the intolerance for the black population of our country, they would not be here in the first place were it not for the action`s of your ancestors & the rest of the European colonial powers. I might add they are as France for the most part empty shells of former great nations.

We were the the invaders who took the continent of North America from the Indians?....Did you ever hear of the French voyeurs who were responsible for the penetration & colonization of much of the heartland of the continent, they certainly did not do so for the glory of a coming country to be the United States now did they? Your ancestors traveled far & wide across this continent from the New Orleans, throughout the mid & upper west into Canada until the English tossed you out & we bought the Louisiana Purchase from Napolean.

Zorro,I am sorry to say some of my ancestors were French because you & your countrymen are for the most part a rude obnoxious bunch of self-centered incompetant assholes not worth the air you breathe or the space you occupy. At least my ancestors had the good common sense to leave France.

The only thing you have perfected is how to surrender & beg for help. Hell, maybe the muslims will be the salvation of France after all , at least they would fight to defend it once they take it over.Now bend over stick your head between your legs & kiss your French ass goodbye to make room for the muslims who are going to replace you.

Zero, please study Dudley's Post. You will notice that he has quite a knack for knowing how and when to use upper and lower case letters. Something about that makes me able to pick out a more educated fellow. Now I have no knowledge of any "Ethopian Escapade", perhaps you can enlighten me about this matter. I also will give the French great accolades for their top naval victory of the twentieth century, that is correct, the battle of Aukland Harbor, July 10, 1985, where the rusted out Rainbow Warrior, manned by women and idiots was attacked by French forces, but alas, the rusty Old Girl valiantly repulsed the French efforts to permanently send her to the bottom. She was sank purposely off New Zealand a couple years later.

Again and again, THE SAME CRAPS. Defeated in WATERLOO AND BY THE RUSSIANS. You retain only what you want to retain. AND WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NAPOLEON VICTORIES BEFORE? ALL EUROPE WAS UNDER THE DOMINATION OF NAPOLEON AT THE BEGINNING OF 18TH CENTURY,EXCEPT ENGLAND, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ISLAND.SAME THING WITH HITLER 140 YEARS LATER.As your millions ignorant fellows brothers, you believe that history of the world started in 1800.Defeated by arabs in ALGERIA? Poor jerk.French army was largely victorious on Algerian soil.This withdrawal was ordered by De Gaulle in agreement with the new Algerian government, to finish this shit as soon as possible and give them independance.FOR A BEAUTIFUL RESULT,FOR SURE. A BIG PART OF THEM CAME IN FRANCE JUST AFTER,TO NOT STARVE. DEFEATED IN DIEN BIEN PHU? SURE, THE US WAR IN VIETNAM WAS A BIG VICTORY. AND FOR THE CLICHE OF THE RUDE AND OBNOXIOUS FRENCH, IT PROVES YOUR STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE.THIS MISPERCEPTION IS A BIASED VIEW DUE TO CULTURAL DIFFERENCES . USIAN ARE BY FAR MORE RUDE,ARROGANT AND PRIMITIVE THAN THE FRENCH.A MONGER RACE,FOR MOST OF THEM.AN UNEDUCATED AND IGNORANT BUNCH OF WANKERS.AND FOR ETHIOPIA,DO YOU REMEMBER A BEAUTIFUL US MESS CALLED RESTORE HOPE? VERY EFFICIENT ACTION. OH,SORRY, IT WAS IN SOMALIA.You say that the French are going to be replaced by Arabs? Do not be so sure.In your case,you are on the way to be replaced soon by Chicanos or Asiatics. Not counting the blacks.FINALLY,THE SOLE THING THAT I APPRECIATE WITH NEOCONS IS THIS BLACK FEMALE CALLED CONDOLEEZZA. SHE IS SO HOT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LICK.

Zorro, The Gay Blade-
Quit while you're behind...

Zorro the geek.......

Slow down froggy with the Upper Case, you have taken the lesson to excess. this is not a slap in your face for you communicate far better in English than do I in French, but why would one of reasonable intelligence want to.

AS for your false assumption for victory in Algeria...I seem to remember the escalation of fighting, assassination, muntiny & interferance from leaders back home in France. Did not at least one General go public with exception to that interferance? Was not Algeria considered to be a virtual province of France, much as is Martinique today? How can you claim victory when the Algerians were successful in the creation of a new Government independant of France? This is the actions of a people victorious not one who have been defeated.

As to the Ethiopian mess...."Somalia"....this is unfortunately true but it was during the administration of Bill Clinton , an odoius chap at best, one considered to be a true statesman by most of Europe & all of the continental leaders. they certainly have a talent for recognition of mediocrity don`t they.

One thing you had ought to to change is your penchance for the excess use of profanity. While I am not a prude & can sling mud with the best of them , occasional usage for emphasis is acceptable but the amount you are posting obscures the points you are trying to make & renders your posting to a level below that of most trolls.

As to my statement for the rude & obnoxious nature of the French, this was initially formulated due to the actions of your leaders against the policies of my country,the anti-American position of your Media & the refusal to at least say thank you for the lend-lease granted ,let alone to consider repayment. This position was cemented while traveling in Europe, I visited France & experienced first hand the repulsive nature of the French people away from the large cities for any foreign people, not just Americans.

Having spent a long time cruising on a small sail boat (34') mostly in the Caribbean, my experience with French cruising people is mostly negative. One example is anchoring astern of a French flagged boat at Provodenciales in the Turks and Caicos Islands. At about 11:00AM a female exited the cabin of the boat and dropped her bikini bottom, hung her ass over the stern rail and defecated about 15 meters off my bow. Afterward she wiped her ass with her hand and returned below deck. Most cruisers chained up their valuables if a French boat was in the anchorage due to increased theft. One French family whose children used the yacht club shrubbery at Puerto Azul, Venezuela as a latrine regularly used the swimming pool to do their laundry. The lack of class shown by Zorro is rather typical.

And the typicall bullshits continue. Lack of class of Zorro? Your class is so great passing your time insulting the French? Too, this Carribean story let me rather puzzled. And if it was true, how can you generalize to a whole people an isolated mean case? The vast majority of the French are clean,courteous and certainly not anti US folks, contrary to this silly myth of the rude French people. The French are more reserved and distant than Anglosaxons, and this is from this misunderstanding, that this stupid misperception comes.French are like all other peoples.Good and bad, like everywhere.And,for this so called anti US feeling,do not confound people and government.Most of the average French do not give a shit with these political craps. Contrary to the US folks that i encountered visiting this place a few years ago. A lot of aggressive, wild , misinformed and almost insane people in their anti French behaviour. The lack of knowledge of the US basic citizens about the world affairs was really AWFUL. And i think that it is still the same now, above all reading the messages posted here. Put in your head that the US are only a country like others.Not the center of the earth. It will certainly helps you when you travel overseas.Owing to most of the wankers messages posted here, this is easier to understand why war happens.

Zorro the Geek......

Finally a statement I can concur with .....American basic citizens have an awful lack of knowledge about world affairs..... Amen! they do not even have a basic understanding of our Constitution, what civic responsibility is or why we have become the light of the world for so many people.

Congratulations for your improved rhetorical verbage, it makes you seem less French & perhaps even educated.It that is an insult to you , sorry but it was long overdue for improvement.

As to the Caribbean story,I am not very surprised as my experiences in Martinique,St. Barthelemy & St. Martin mirror the obnoxious behavior & boorish attitude of the French people there. I did not witness anything approaching the crude act posted but can attest to the lack of respect & desire for independance from France by at least some of the inhabitants of Martinique.

I have traveled overseas, it is true many dislike America but it is also true no other nation on earth has an illegal immigration problem as do we. the millions who desire to come here are not just Latino, they are from all walks of life, all nations & all races.

Quite honestly the only country I have personally visited for which I could make a home in & feel at ease is Switzerland. I suspect that New Zealand & Australia are also in the same league but as of yet have not been fortunate to have traveled there.

Back to your dislike for the United States.... I feel this is more of a result for your disbelief of the very real danger Europe & France in particular is in from the rise of Muslim extremism. When one considers the safe haven those like the Ayatollah Khomaini found in France that disbelief is amazing at best, stupid is more appropriate. I think you as do most Europeans resent the ascent for the United States to the Super Power stature we possess. Because we can project our influence around the world in a manner your country has not been able to do for more then a century must be a bitter pill to swallow.

Having stated the forgoing analysis of reason for French hostility , I am sure when we are surpassed by other nations economically & militarily it would be easy to assume the same posture as has France, hopefully this Nation will have the common sense to be a viable force in the World in an appropriate manner & not emulate the European lesson.

My comments are concerning eye witness experiences. I am not "generalizing" on the basis of "news" items. Not all French people are as offensive as I described above but the ONLY obnoxious cruising people I encountered in 23 years of cruising were French. Zorro should not believe all of what he/she reads in Le Monde.

Hey Zero, I mean Zorro, Sarkozy, a conservative will now be President of France. Your brilliant thoughts would be appreciated. Enlighten us all!

As a French, I do not consider myself as obnoxious and offensive.And, for MR SOB LOOPER,concerning Sarkozy, this guy is perceived as another swindler by a majority of the French.Most of them distrust politicians who do not give a fuck of their problems.If this mini Bush was elected, it was above all because there were no other valid choices.Personally,iam no attracted anymore by USA, because i experienced a few years ago, as many other French tourists, a totally injustified bad treatment in a lot of places there.And, i realized at this time, how misinformed, most of US citizens were about the French.All these stupid cliches.Rude, obnoxious, arrogant.All these craps are total bullshits based on cultural differences.France is perhaps the less anti US country in Europe.The French audience knows as well as US audience US movies and music.People and government are two totally and opposite things.A vast majority of the French vomit their governmemt.It was the same, during De Gaulle time.But unfortunately, incult rednecks of Oklahoma or Alabama assimiltate people and government. This is because more and more French and Europeans are not anymore attracted by USA.For my part, this is already a long time that i have turned the USA page.As many other people everywhere.This silly and hysterical anti French attitude displayed by a lot of folks there, is the sign of a deep mental problem with France.

WTF is "MR SOB LOOPER?"??

What does that mean?

Zorro-
The fact that you aren't 'attracted' to the United States puts a smile on my face. We don't need you rude folks in our Country! In highschool I worked at SeaWorld and dealt with snotty French tourists on a daily basis. All that your "people" did was piss and moan about not getting a seat to see Shamu, while cutting in line in front of Americans who were taking their kids to see the show. Do you really wonder why we see you for the assholes you really are?

We don't have to make this shit up, you prove our point every time you visit here and open your mouth. It's a 2-way street zorro...

Don't go away mad, just go away...

I won't speak for anyone but myself, but if you never come to the United States, I won't lose any sleep over it...

Zorro-
I worked at SeaWorld in highschool and I knew nothing about the French until they came to visit our 'theme-park'. After that, "your people" proved what we had been saying all along... You think that your shit doesn't stink, and you think you're better than everyone else.

After that, I understood that A LOT of "your people" are rude assholes and think you are better than everyone else. Cutting in line and being an obnoxious rude prick doesn't help your cause any. Just like shittin' on the United States doesn't...

We have no desire to visit you either... Hopefully, your "peacefull" people wont ruin your 40-hour work week before they torch your hybrid...

Thankfully, this name calling aside, French tourists will continue to visit the United States in huge numbers. And American tourists will continue to visit France in huge numbers.

The France vs. USA pissing contest in this thread is tiresome at best. Grow up girls, you're both pretty.

Hopefully, the french will stay in
france and the people who believe your bullshit will keep on suckin' the hookah...

You talk about snooty French tourists who cut in lines in front of Americans? Personnaly i have never acted like that and this generalization is pretty stupid.Do you talk about US tourists who come in France, and just after get out of the plane,speak directly in English in an arrogant way to taxi drivers or waiters, and who wants to be accomoded like gods everywhere? Would you appreciate if French tourists were speaking directly in French with basic US folks? Have you never heard about UGLY AMERICANS? So,before to give lessons,look at yourself first.And be reassured concerning myself for a new visit in your place. I will never come back again. So, you will be not disturbed by snooty French tourists who cut in line in front of your brave and respectful folks.

I am not being arrogant, I just want the waiter to wash the shit off his hands before serving me.

I think it would be more useful for you to clean the shit which pollute your little brain.

Zorro & other French Geeks.......

I remember on one flight from JFK to Zurich two French citizens who in clear view of the no-smoking signs over their heads would stand in the aisles, light up & pollute the air with the smoke from their cigarettes.Finally the stewardess had to get help from one of the male crew members to get these two to comply with regulations. After landing they complained to any who would listen for the need to stand in line as you went thru customs & show passports.

The only time`s I have ever been with people of french extraction who were friendly was in Canada in the province of Quebec. I spent many fishing trips in Quebec & got to know a number of French Canadians there. They were courteous, friendly & made you welcome unless you were from Ontario. I was amazed when I visited France & found the motherland so cold & aloof.

One point some of you have made is the attitude of many American`s when traveling outside the USA & displaying the same aloof attitude of what I have attributed to the French. Sadly that charge against at least some American`s is true....I witnessed some of that behavior myself so there is some justification for the comments posted about American`s at times being rude & insulting. All in all though , I have found in my travels the French to be the worst,followed closely by the Germans with the Swiss & Japanese being the most courteous of all.

People are people. Countries are not theme parks.You can find assholes everywhere. In France,in Usa,in Switzerland or in Canada. And the same amount of good people. What is good or what is bad? Everybody has his own point of view.I think that many Us citizens have a lot of preconceived views of other peoples.Many of them never travel, and most of these boring cliches comes,for a big part, from all this Hollywood brainwashing stuff, and also from different cultural perceptions.90% of the cliches attached to the French are total bullshits.And it is really exasperating that most of the morons who believe all these craps, have for the vast majority of them, never set a foot in France.

90 % of the cliches attached to the French have been verified by you Zorro. You're a flaming retard, who knows less about American culture and the American people than anyone I have ever met.
Your diatribes are long and boring, and I thank the Good Lord above everyday that my ancestors had the good sense to get the hell out of Europe when they did. (And I am only a second generation American.)
I guarantee if you were to spout the shit that you've been writing here at any bar/tavern here in the US and I were there, you'd be asking my foot for a withdrawl date from your ass.

Good luck with your conversion to Islam.
Facts are Muslims are moving into France by the thousands, and once they get there they are reproducing. Their families are getting larger with more birth than the 'native' French.
You need to find out the birth rates for each group. Look at those numbers. You'll see I'm right.
And as my grandma always used to tell me when I was growing up:

"Its better to have people think you a fool, then to open your mouth and prove them right."

You, have proven everyone who has replied to your drivel correct.

And all the cliches attached to USIANS have been already confirmed by assholes like you. Ignorant, wankers, brainwashed mongers. USIANS are a mongrel incult race.Whatever you can say, it has always been , and always will be. Altough all the craps you are able to display with your pathetic arguments. Your fake place is based on a genocide, on the massmurder of Amerindian people.And, ONLY FOR THIS REASON, you should shut up your stinky mouths.And keep your mean jokes concerning Germans for you. A vast majority of the French feel closer with them, BECAUSE WE ARE EUROPEANS AND SHARE FOR MORE THAN 1500 YEARS THE SAME ROOTS.Contrary to your mongrel thieve race.Stay in you place and eat your hamburgers.Your obsession with muslims is really ridiculous. In your case, you are on the way, as i told before, to be replaced by third world immigrants. Normal, for a true originally genuine immigrant country.It will be the logical continuation.Your true masters live in the middle east but they are no muslims.This post will be my last on this backward site. I do not want to waste my time with biggots wankers degenerate cretins.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out, you french pussy!

Zorro the geek.......

I know you said you are through posting .......but I am sure you are reading, it did not take you very long to retreat back into the cesspool of vulgarity you draw your talking points from.

I guess disappointment is a major event in your life......You feel closer to Germans then America?? I suppose one could get familiar with being conquered & dominated but comfortable? From the land of the free...Never!

By the way we do have some thieves in this country, after all we have accepted French immigrants , so thievery came with them. We do not worry to much about them breaking into our homes..... we hide our money & valuables in a box of soap,they would never think to look there.

Zorro,
After you've finished getting your ass handed to you here, swing by my place and I'll explain that whole soap and water issue to you.