Well, even if the fire can't melt steel, it can cause the asphaltum-based roadway to deform enough to exceed the design limits of the bolts and rivets holding the steel beams together.

What a frickin' mess that'll be for commuters. Home-officing is making more sense by the minute...

Hold on now........I thought all the good little liberals in the bay area walked everywhere in their earth shoes! What the hell do they need a freeway for anyway? I'll bet they use it to bring in bottled water and government funds!

Denny, that was exactly my thought...

"For only the *second* time in history...."

What a bunch of gullible rubes. This was obviously an inside job by the California DOT (outsourced to Halliburton!!). Fire obviously can't melt steel, they obviously had to place shaped charges to get that kind of effect. Merely 6 months after Pelosi was elected? COINCIDENCE!?!? Obviously!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

I think you have all missed the point.

This is a make work project for illegal Mexicans. It wasn't the fire that melted or just softened the steel at 800 degrees, it was the hot sauce.

That is great! I think I'm going to have to email that article to Rosie O'Dumbshit and ask her to explain how regular gasoline can produce enough heat to make steel buckle, but jet fuel cannot...

Good Catch Denny...I was thinking the same damn thing watching this on TV yesterday. Props to Macklin and pdb as well.

See....its this kind of beautiful sh1t that makes me wish Rosie could just go on, uninteruppted for the whole hen peck hour and give us more of these nuggets that eventually we can shove right back up her a$$

LMAO, Macklin! Classic!

That's impossible.
I held my lighter to a paperclip for 5 minutes and all I got was a burnt finger. The steel didn't melt! So it's fact right?

LOL funny funny libs

When I saw the article yesterday, I was wondering if you would post something. Two thumbs up.

The team here at Dolphin Foundry are most pleased with this news, until now we were just sitting around on our asses saying "shit I wish fire was able to melt metal then we could make stuff with all this metal".

My business has been saved by this breakthrough.

The temp reported at the bridge from a GASOLINE fire was 2750 degrees.

JET FUEL Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

And structural steel loses temper and stretches out like silly putty at around 540C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_steel

What's yer point?

Didn't know people worked in San Francisco. But if anyone deserves
something like this, they do.

pdb - I think Joe has the hots for Rosie. Hell, maybe he is Rosie.

I'm with Elisson, mostly because I love working from home in my jammies and bunny slippers. Also, saves you money on the commute. But then there's the whole home/work boundary issue, and the rool about not taking work home with you. Ack. Decisions, decisions.

Oh, right. And Rosie's a stooopid asshole.

I can't believe I'm gonna meet you in a few days. Yabu wanted me to tell you to play Bach for me before you get hammered.

Joe, let me give something to go a read up on BEFORE you open your yap and make yourself look like a dick... bugger, too late for that. Well anyway...

"Cupola Furnace"

Then go and play with the concept of fuel+oxygen+ignition

Put the two together on a really big scale. Twice.

Additional reading "fire storm" and "Dresden".

Subtle hint, I do this for a living. I'm not a fat dyke "celebrity" with an agenda.

For those who do not know, jet engines only burn about 10-25% of the air that is sucked in teh front and mixed with fuel, most of the air is used for cooling the meatal parts of the engine so they don't melt. The most critical part of operating a jet engine is the start. A weak battery or if fuel is introduced into the burner section too soon and the engine will have what is called a "hot start" and it can melt holes in the high temperature metals used in the burner section and on the turbine wheels.
The temperature a fuel burn at depends on teh quantity of oxygen-the fuel air ratio.

Steel gets red hot at about 500-800° F and has almost no strength at that point. Temperature and heat are two different things. A 6,000 ° acetelyne flame from a small tip will not melt a sheet of aluminum 1/4 inch thick because the small amount of heat calories is just sucked away into the rest of the material.

Thousands of gallons of fuel is a lot of calories and it melts and softens.

After reading the story about the highway in California collapsing, I thought about Rosie. My wife suggested that I go to "The View" website and email her.
What do you know, you can email the other three hosts of the show but not dear Rosie.
I would like to know her "View" on this.

Obviously, the earthquake upgrade wasn't adequate.

Sure am glad I don't have to go to Contra Costa County anytime soon.

Just wondering what the melting temperature of stupidity is.

I'm will to build the furnace if you all can keep feeding dimocrats into it till we get the answer.

THATS a noble experiment!

That's easy. Libs melt whenever we have troops in combat.

I fear you are missing the "point" of my experiment.

Let's start off with a 1,000 celsius and a veto today!

Stoker, hurl another O'Donell on the flames!

As a sometime commenter on this blog ladies and gentlemen, please let me clarify that the above Joe is NOT me. He is not Kentucky by any stretch of the imagination, so don't free associate him with me.

PS: This just proves what Popular Mechanics said from the beginning.

No, No, No.

Bush OBVIOUSLY set all this up. Personally. So his buddies can get rich. So that we can fight an illegal war in California. So that he can ignore all the oppressed folks in the Bay area. So he can claim all of California's oil. So he can personally sneak more Al-Quaida folks out of the country. So he can declare martial law. So he can cover up the fact that he's creating more tax cuts for the rich.

He may have fooled you and me, but he won't fool Pelosi and Boxer and Sheila Jackson-Lee.

Watch out, Dubya !!

I have house plants that could fool Pelosi.

Carl Rove got Halliburton to do it and they subbed it out to Blackwater.

As the FEMA report explains in detail, almost all of the JP-4 jet fuel
(essentially highly refined kerosene) from the two planes was consumed in the first 5-10 minutes
after impact, both in the initial fireballs and in fires on the floors near the impact points. This means
that the jet fuel had disappeared as a heat source long before the collapses, and cannot have been
an important influence beyond helping to ignite the office contents, which would have had to supply
the lion's share of the energy needed to raise the temperature of the core columns.

Krietan - Yippee! I got my first Truther. First off, what is the color of the sky in your world? Second, where did you get your tinfoil hat?

So what you're saying is somehow the gummint was able to plant all of those exposive charges without anyone seeing them. Have you talked to a demolitions expert on how hard this would have been?

You're also saying that the Bush administration, which I'm sure you think is full of idiots, were somehow able to keep a conspiracy like this a secret. Amazing!

Technology Breakthrough!!!!!!

When you look on the right sites & read between the lines while wearing a TinFoil hat , the sense of super intellect just comes over you like the bubbles from your mothers bubblebath when you play submarine crashdive in the bathtub.

It seems that when Haliburton developed the Hurricane Generator for Karl Rove ,Bush & the KKK ....."first announced by Denny"..... one of the side benefits was the discovery of a type of invisible flame that would not only burn steel but was cool to the touch & leaving no residue, this was a byproduct of refined Liberal BS & will be used for all sorts of covert activities to further the cause of a Conservative world goverment.

The Republican inner circle was going to delegate the creation of an international cartel to plan & co-ordinate its use to Ronald Reagan but discovered he was deceased.... so Nancy & her astrologer will fill in for Ron between seances. It seems she has a lot of time on her hands at the present & is looking for something to do.

Kristin, move out of your parents house and make a payment on something. Anything.