It now looks like the abomination amnesty for illegals immigration shitbomb bill in the Senate is gonna drag out over the recess. Now is the time for you to write, call, fax, and e-mail the senators from your state, especially those that are up for reelection in 2008. My senator, Saxby Chambliss, is up for reelection in 2008. He and my other senator, Johnny Isakson, got booed at a state Republican convention over the weekend. They said that once we read the bill we wouldn't think it was bad. Bullshit! The more I read about this bill, the less I like it.
We do not want a comprehensive immigration bill. We want a fence.
Build a fence! Erect a fence! Construct a fence! Put up a fence! How many ways do we have to say this until our elected "representatives" finally understand what we are saying?
Once we can control the influx of illegal aliens, then we can decide what to do with the ones we have here. If you have a hole in a boat, bailing the water out will not be effective until you fix the hole.
We were sold this same bill of goods back in 1986. That bill was supposed to include enforcement and amnesty. We got the amnesty. We didn't get the enforcement. Offering the 12 to 20 million illegals currently in this country a path to amnesty will just attract more illegals just like the 1986 "solution" did.
Do our elected representatives think we're stupid? Don't answer that. That was a rhetorical question.
Let them know how you feel. There's nothing a politician hates more than the chance of losing the next election. Here is contact info for every member of the Senate.
For you Georgia folks, here is the homepage for Saxby Chambliss. He has an online poll on important issues and illegal immigration is leading.
Update: From Kerrcarto here is a place to go to send a free fax to your senators. Inundate them with paper! Kill some trees to oppose amnesty!
Posted by denny at May 22, 2007 01:29 PMHell even France gets it now. Our Government is neutering us and France is growing some onions. The world is truly upside down!
"France's minister of immigration and national identity, a new ministry created by President Nicolas Sarkozy, has ruled out legalizing undocumented immigrants en masse."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=456666&in_page_id=1811&ito=1490
Posted by: kerrcarto on May 22, 2007 02:26 PMEver wonder who the authored the amnesty bill in 86? It didn't have his name but Ted Kennedy was the driving force. Ever wonder why we have so many Muslims from the Middle East and North Africa? It was Ted Kennedy. Now they want to not only give amnesty to 15-20 million illegals but want to increase to 400,000 a year of low wage immigrants. If the blacks in this country realized how they are getting rolled by these actions they would start burning again. But the dims have them under their control as if they were still slaves. What a fucking mess! These asshole congress critters should all be sent home or deported to Cuba.
Posted by: Gene Hall on May 22, 2007 03:06 PMWho's behind Kennedy on this one? AFL-CIO. This bill has nothing to do with security and everything to do with labor and the importation of the next wave of Union Members.
Bad for America.
Posted by: BillT on May 22, 2007 03:18 PMI don't know BillT. 2 years ago I spent $27 per week to have my yard mowed. I now pay $19. yard is the same size, gas is more expensive, the only other variable is labor. too many illegals. the more illegals we have the bigger the unskilled labor pool. Plus union guys lost their jobs in Cactus Tx to those illegals at th meat plant.
I am no fan of big labor. I just think of the two dogs in this fight, theirs is the other one.
Posted by: patrick on May 22, 2007 03:53 PMYou can also go over here to send your senators a free fax against the bill. By using all the paper it will help negate some of Gore's "credits" also. It's a win win for everyone.
http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?action=voteyes&series=drudge21MAY07
Posted by: kerrcarto on May 22, 2007 05:04 PMThe real crock sold to the public is the illegals do the jobs Americans would not do. In fact if you looked at those jobs that are stolen by these criminals - they are refered to as gateway skills - construction, low end plant labor even yard work. These are the jobs our kids used to do until the Govt got involved. As a teen I cleared and easy Eighty bucks a week mowing yards in San Antonio back in the mid sixties - along comes Manuel and his brothers cutting prices and doing a sloppier job and putting me out of work. Did the same in roofing and general construction. Then again every house I framed in the seventies is still standing with plumb walls and straight roofs. Many of those done by the Mexicans crews have either been condemed or reframed.
My own son could not even get a job unloading trucks at the local WalMart (wrong color - blue eyes, blond hair) and he speaks better Spanish then most of the wetbacks that cross the border.
I say that every Senator that votes for this piece of crap be impeached!!!!
Posted by: Chuck Butler on May 22, 2007 05:14 PMI do not want a fence. I want full-fuckin'-field-fortifications! With land mines and Claymores. From sea to shining sea. And machine gun nests, because the engineer FM taught me "its not an obstacle unless its covered by fire".
Posted by: Rurik on May 22, 2007 05:40 PMAmnesty is a pussified government's policy for dealing with criminals it has neither the funds to prosecute nor the stomach to punish.
Regardless of what who wants to call it, if it walks like a goddam duck . . . . . . .
Posted by: eros total on May 22, 2007 05:42 PMIf the illegals are doing jobs Americans wont do, does that mean after those self serving shitbirds in Washington sell them all citizenship
($5,000 dollar fine bullshit)
that we will have to import a whole new bunch of illegals to replace the 12 million
(HA now thats a fuck'n laugh! More like 20 million and DONT get me started on this Z-1,2,3,visa horseshit)
that are not going to work anymore?
Posted by: Echo5Bravo on May 22, 2007 06:00 PMLike Denny, I want a fence. It should be barbed wired and electric. The higher the voltage, the better.
Posted by: Darrell on May 22, 2007 06:52 PMThe question never answered is who the hell done the jobs before the illegals raided this country? I don't remember ever seeing illegals cutting lawns or working construction till a few years back. The only Mexicans I remember was in Ca. and Az. picking fruit and vegetables. I never saw them in Ohio or Pa. Now they are everywhere. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and you think you are in a third world country. They lay around the stores and ogle the women and make (I'm sure) snide remarks. Try and speak to one and they just know "No Speak English". It's all bull shit and our reps.think that we are too dumb to realize what they are trying to pull on us. Vote them all out!
Posted by: gene Hall on May 22, 2007 07:20 PM"I do not want a fence. I want full-fuckin'-field-fortifications! With land mines and Claymores. From sea to shining sea. And machine gun nests, because the engineer FM taught me "its not an obstacle unless its covered by fire".
I agree with Rurik. 9/11 was a result of poor immigration management, so we should defend our borders like we're fighting a war. Fuck picking them up out of the water. Shoot those cocksuckers full of holes. You get caught in the U.S. illegally, we store your fingerprints and send you back. Get caught twice, we kill you. No trial, no appeal.
Gosh, do you think Markman's plan would curb illegal immigration?
Posted by: Marksman2000 on May 22, 2007 07:25 PMOur public servants.......
It has been said our Senators & Congress Critters think we are stupid.......Do you blame them? After all we the people voted these Assholes into office either thru ignorance of what they stand for if you did vote, or apathy if you did not & let the dimocrats & rinos have their welfare minorities highjack your vote.
Either way we the people are going to pay the price for the lack of participation of the general electorate & the imposition of liberal ideology to our country.
Will we the people ever collectively understand those who are in office consider themselves to be above the criticism & the will of the people? Will the people ever get angry & take back control from these assholes & hold them accountable for their actions? I seriously doubt it , in fact for the most part the will of the people is to huddle like sheep & just bleat Bahhhh!Baaaahhhh!Baaahhhh!
I as a conservative activist who in my life only missed one election am ashamed for the lack of concern of my countrymen, the coming disenfranchisement of the American Republic will not affect me as I am already in my 60`s but I pity my children & grandchildren. They will be saddled with the cost for this willfull assault on what once was a proud country with civic responsibilty. they will suffer the consequence for the destruction of this country.
Posted by: dudley1 on May 22, 2007 08:04 PMDitto the fence comment and thanks for the contact info. My Hagel's site encouraged me to voice my opinion but then told me that he has to read 300 emails a day. Poor baby.
Posted by: Teresa on May 22, 2007 09:25 PMThis is a McStain moment,
"In a private meeting just off the Senate floor, McCain got into a shouting match Thursday with Sen. John Cornyn, R-Tex., over details of a compromise on immigration legislation. Cornyn accused McCain of being too busy with his campaign to take part in the negotiations, prompting McCain to utter, "Fuck you."
There is what we want in a presidential canidate.
Was thinking about border security and illegal aliens, mostly Mexicans, some other South and Central American and who know how many from the east side of the Atlantic Ocean?
I was also thinking about the long lines at the Post Office [I have to wait a long time to get my mail] of people buyinb passports. Thse are all US citizens, in line buying passports to fly or drive to Canada or Mexico and get back. The cost is about $150 each, maybe a little more if they want "rush service" and also the pictures. Don't know how many children that never had to have a passport now are required to have one. Also your old passport isn't any good. I guess your citizenship expires every ten years.
Does this improve security? Who knows since the border is still wide open to aliens.
Nut just guessing on the numbers, maybe 150 million citizens are having to get new passports, Is it possible it is about the $2,500,000,000.00?
Chuck, Rurik, Eros!
Gene Hall, Marksman2000, Theresa and (gasp!) Dudley!
I'm hoping my endorsement tarnishes you not, but I am in COMPLETE AGREEMENT w/you on THIS Issue!
I want to include Jim Macklin, but I don't quite know about the $2,500,000,000.00.
Posted by: DanS on May 22, 2007 11:20 PMWe do not need a new law. We have a law that detailes how one may enter and stay in the country. 20 million people have ignored it and more will ignore any new laws. We do not need "Immigration Reform", we need immigration enforcement. How about "Zero Tolerance"? We catch you once, we deport you. If we ever catch you again, we lock you up.
The first thing we need is to change the rule as to what constitutes a natural born Citizen. Only the children born to citizens and Legal resident aliens become citizens at birth.
I don't care how much it costs, deport anyone who jumped the fence. As Whitman said, " Good fences make good neighbors".
Posted by: Roger on May 22, 2007 11:28 PMGuys, this is what happens when your party is controlled by corporations. Even though the vast majority of the rank and file in your party hate the bill, corporations want it because they want the cheap labor. And guess what, the corporations win out. That is why so many Republicans are behind this bill. Sure, the RNC doesn't want to give up all of the Latino vote, but that doesn't explain the votes (or promised votes) of many Republicans. They are beholden to big corporations who rely on that labor pool. So guess what? Corporations lose and rank and file Republican Party members lose.
Posted by: Sally on May 22, 2007 11:44 PMWhy new laws when they won't enforce the laws that are on the books in the first place?
Posted by: vetfromhell on May 23, 2007 12:30 AMRoger-
I was on board with you until this part:
"We catch you once, we deport you. If we ever catch you again, we lock you up."
Locking them up is not the answer. KEEP THEM OUT! That's the answer. Look how many ILLEGALS we already house in our 3-square's-a-day luxury system. The ball of turd is growing in size with every suggestion of letting them stay here for ANY reason!
Posted by: CharlieDelta on May 23, 2007 12:49 AMSally, it's not the big corporations. Big corporations are GM, Boeing etc. The businesses hiring the illegals are the meat packers, slaughter houses and Hollywood types who have to have their domestic help. At one time they hired blacks but that work become to demeaning for blacks and the fact that they could receive just as much welfare didn't help either.
It's been reported that Nancy Pelosi owns a huge vineyard in Ca. and all her laborers are illegals. The politicians are selling us out and that is the plain truth!
Liberal Sally, you are spouting the same old liberal "talking points". It's the evil corporations, corporations control America, corporations control the politician. That's just drivel and you too are a sheeple like the rest of your party. It goes MUCH, MUCH deeper than your simple understanding (which you don't have) of the problem. The politicians don't want to touch this not because of the "corporations" outrage as you try to state (kind of like going to Iraq for oil huh, but we can discuss that another day when you're not too busy defending some scum sucking criminal)but because of the huge costs monetarily it will take to ENFORCE the laws we alread have. It's going to require and entire "revamping" of our current immigration enforcement policies, but what the politicians seem to be learning is that "we the people" don't give a rats ass how much or what's involved. Just start enforcing the laws that have been here since the start of our republic. Just out or curiousity, since you're sheeple mind thinks the republicans are opposed to enforcement because of the big evil dreaded corporations, can you explain why the Dimocrats are opposed? "quiet, listen to the pin dropping". It's the votes baby. They see less intelligent, weak willed, easily led "sheeple" in all these new illegals being given amnesty (wow, an entirely new population of democrats with the stroke of a pen, pure F'ing genius no matter how anti-American those Dims are). So, go back and do more research and find out exactly "which" corporations are forcing the republicans hand to support an amnesty program. I wait in anticipation for your lack of research.
Points & Talking Points........
Point... DanS agrees with the conservatives! One giant step for Dan, one small step for mental health.
Its a start Dan!
Talking Points......Socialist Sallys dayplanner daily reminder list;
Number 1...Big corporations control the Republican Party.
Number 2...Big evil corporations are at fault.
Number 3...Poor rank & file people lose.
Number 4...Ask why I am called a troll.
Number 5...Dont answer any questions.
Number 6...Complain about language.
Nothing changes....Right Sally?
Lets face it folks its time to end the two party system if you want your country back . Only when we kick all of thier asses out will we get back on track . Hell I might as well run for pres myself . I'll call it the "Time for fucking change party " Here is my platform . I promise that if elected I will bring all the troops home from europe and place them on the border . I promise I will abolish the IRS. I promise I will stop payment on all foriegn loans . I promise I will pull out of and relocate the UN . I promise I will redeploy all ground troops from the middle east and institute a 0 tolorance ,no second chance policy for terrorist countrys . That means you get no warnings you kill or harm american interest once and I remove all and I mean all of your palaces and holy sites period . I promise to require that all judges be elected by the with one year terms . I promise that all senators and congress members be drug and achohol tested daily and limited to 2 year non renewable terms . I promise that no member of government shall be allowed to be a member of the bar assoc. I promise that all goverment employees will be non union and be subject to job rating review every 6 months . I have lots more and I'll be looking to fill my cabinet with good people with good ideas . My name Darrell and I approved this messge .
Posted by: Darrell G on May 23, 2007 08:02 AMDarrell:
There's one major problem with your plan: Almost all of what you're proposing isn't within the purview of the office of the President.
Posted by: Unix-Jedi on May 23, 2007 08:40 AMTo further this discussion. It's very thoughtful of our congress to add a terrorist protection measure. I was watching Grassley on the senate floor explaining some of the shortcomings of this idiotic bill and he explained one provision that said if a suspected terrorist was about to receive a "Z" visa, instead of deporting him he must be allowed a visa anyway and proceed in court if any charges are to be brought. Insane!
Posted by: gene Hall on May 23, 2007 11:45 AMUnix-jedi......
Concerning your critique of Darrell`s announced candidacy for President, I offer a sensible solution........Dudley the first for King of America & Lord Protector of the Planet.
My platform is pretty much the same but as King no one can question that which I do. Also no one gets a federal job unless they are a conservative & all conservatives will recieve a 20% tax cut.
Ted Kennedy will be brought up on murder charges as well as Treason.....all the rest of the dimocrats will be co-defendants on the Treason charges as will certain Rinos.
By the way Unix ....would you like to have Karl Roves job?
Posted by: dudley1 on May 23, 2007 02:55 PMI like the Kennedy Murder trial idea dudley . and I belive that since you are such a reasoned thinker we might share the office . I'm sure if we promise to give every welfare recip. a book of booze stamps and promise to give every registered dem a 1/2 pound of good columbian reefer and a free roll of aluminum foil for making hats and window covering , and promise to declare every other monday national stay at home and whack off day we could pull in 90% of the liberal votes . Sure we would have to lie to get elected so some things would stay the same as they are now .
Posted by: Darrell G on May 23, 2007 05:54 PMYes a fence. And the beautiful part is we can pay illegals to build it for us. Wait, didn't that already happen?
Posted by: haha on May 24, 2007 01:44 AMhaha, drain on the tax base since birth.
Posted by: vetfromhell on May 24, 2007 05:42 AMIt's my Birfday so I get to play!
I'm Queen of the American Empire, my picks are: Big Den as my Karl Rove, I need the brainpower.
Sir Squidley as my Foreign Affairs Guy.
Charlie Delta as Secretary of Defense
Marksman, Unix-jedi, Dudley1, and Vetfromhell are the Joint Cheifs.
Elizabeth the Imperial Keeper is an Admiral in the Navy.
Mario Batali is my Chef.
Ginsberg and Souter fall over dead after a bad ham sammich from subway...so does Rachel Ray
Ann Coulter is my Press Secretary...
Rosie is hung for Treason, and all first offender pedophiles as well as all Elected Democrats, and Gretchen Carlson is fired from Fox news.
Newt Gingrich is Secretary of Education and is in charge of all public schools where all brats recite the Pledge and wear uniforms.
Christianity is once again cool. So is common sense and Capitalism.
Sally is exiled to her beloved Cuba and Teresa would be in charge of Dan S. getting his meds on time. They would get a 'stipend'
Prosper would be my fashion director/lady in waiting and get me all the best new designs from Gay Paree and Gay fashionista types.
My empire would be flush with cash, as I would require only nice shoes and food. It would kick ass as it would only provide infrastucture and defense. Oh, I would also want American Tv Stations in the Middle East and I'd like to ride around in a chariot and look cool like Cleopatra.
It's my birfday! Indulge me dang it!
40 ain't the new 30...brown ain't the new black, and blah blah blah
Darrell G........
When I am King there will be no welfare recipients, I`ll award them Mexican citizenship & off they go to Mexico.Registered dimocrats would be too busy for Reefer & Tinfoil hats.
I would construct an updated version of the "Civilian Conservation Corp"..... The "Dimocratic Corn Crop Corp". Since the Dim`s are so opposed to drilling new oil wells & building refineries, I would put their sorry asses to work planting,growing, harvesting & producing Ethanol so we conservatives can drive around in our SUV`S with impunity & no need for foreign oil.
As for them staying home every other monday & whacking off...forget it,they already have had too much leisure time, they will work 7 days a week & we will stay at home every other day.
I kinda had you in mind as Lordship in charge of a workfare program to occupy the weekdays of the Saturday Boobage girls selected by Denny.......But if doesn`t meet your wishes, you can be King & I`ll take care of the workfare.
Posted by: dudley1 on May 24, 2007 08:14 AMLisaKay.....
I abdicate in favor of your Queenship...Happy Birthday. You do have an amazing agenda.
As for Rosie,Hanging is to good for her...lets starve her , ought to take 8-10 months.
Dudley1,
No need for that, we could have a knights of the round table deal. I'm still Queen mind you! hahahaha
You are my new Secretary of the Interior as well, and passer outter of tinfoil hats. I decree the out law of ethanol. Get on that and all car fueled by french fry oil, they make my royal ass hungry for the old days of transfats and Mickey D fries in beef fat.
Thanks for the Birthday Wishes! Ack!
Happy Birthday, LisaKay. Heck, my doctor was spouting "50 is the new 30" c%@# the other day. After closing files and dragging them to the basement all day yesterday, no, it's not. Ow! Ow! Ow!
OOOOOHHH, an Admiral. You DO NOT want me to be in charge. You really wouldn't. There would be green glass just about EVERYWHERE.
Elizabeth
Imperial Keeper
Happy Birthday LisaKay and many many more!
Posted by: Denny on May 24, 2007 11:30 AMIndeed Happy Birthday LisaKay!
Also, Happy Memorial Day Weekend to all of you Veterans and to those currently serving. I will be in the desert for 6 days practicing up on my accuracy and aim, while playing Undocumented Border Guard, so this will probably be my last transmission until Tuesday...
Posted by: CharlieDelta on May 24, 2007 11:40 AMLOL LisaKay. And happy b'day.
Posted by: Teresa on May 24, 2007 10:30 PMBon anniversaire Lisakay...
I accept your proposal and I promise to do my best.
The boobs will be in good hands .
Ah gee golly shucks guys! Thanks for the nice wishes and in Francois as well! Ooh La La, C'est se bon Monsewer Prosper! It's fun for me to be able to come here and geek out with you guys...but before you all go and take up a collection for a chariot, I'd rather prefer a Segue. I'd be willing to share it by passing it on to the next birfday person. Wouldn't that be fun? Weeeee!
Posted by: LisaKay on May 25, 2007 08:18 AM