June 26, 2007

Liberals Fighting

I just love it when liberals fight. It's so much fun to watch. The latest fight is right here in Atlanta. I just love the headline.

Neighbors tilt at plan for wind turbine

Obviously someone's read Don Quixote or saw Man From La Mancha.

Curt and Christine Mann are renovating their Grant Park house to make it green to the nth degree. They're recycling wood, installing airtight foam insulation and solar lighting, and capturing gray water to flush toilets.

Good little liberals. Algore would be so proud of y'all.

But what sets the Manns apart from other enviro-conscious families is their plan to install a device not seen in any other Atlanta neighborhood —- a 45-foot wind turbine.

Damn! I don't think Grant Park is close enough to either city hall or the capitol building to to harness the wind released by all the bloviating blowhard politicians.

When the turbine's three 6-foot blades spin, electricity will be generated to help power the home.

The Manns say the planned wind tower in their yard shows a commitment to rely less on fossil fuels and help curb global warming.

"We're just trying to walk the talk," Christine Mann said.

Hmmmm. I thought the proper phrase was "talk the talk and walk the walk" or "walk the walk and talk the talk", but what do I know?

They're also testing the limits of green tolerance in Grant Park, a historic neighborhood near Turner Field and Oakland Cemetery that's considered liberal and environmentally aware.

Opponents say the tower, which received a permit from the city, will be nothing more than a giant yard ornament on a street where old houses have been lovingly preserved.

But it will be a giant "yard ornament" that shows the Manns' commitment to saving the planet. C'mom! Haven't you people seen An Inconvenient Truth? Dontcha realize that we only have ten more years and then we'll be past the point of no return? I've circled the date on my calendar. Sometime in June of 2017 we'll be doomed, unless Algore keeps moving the goalposts on the point of no return like he has for the past six years. He has been saying for the last six years that we only have ten more years left so in reality we only have until 2011. All you liberals in Grant park should be applauding what the Manns are doing. But nooooooo! Just like the Kerrys and Kennedys will not allow windfarms off the coast of Taxachusetts, you people in Grant park are keeping the Manns from reducing their carbon footprint.

Bad liberals! Bad!

"Do we want to turn historic Grant Park into a proving ground for residential wind energy?" asked tower opponent Scott Herzinger in an e-mail to neighbors. "Is this an experiment we want to be part of?"

C'mon Scott! Dontcha wanna save the planet? We only have ten more years! Get with the program!

Tower opponents have created a Web site —- treesyestowersno.org —- and put up dozens of stake signs that say, "Trees, yes. Towers, no."

What's running through my mind right now is "four legs good, two legs bad".

But wouldn't all those yard signs make the neighborhood look like crap? And just think, if the signs are made of cardboard all of the trees that would have to be killed to create them. And the stakes as well. At least that's what Curt Mann said.

"Hopefully they printed their signs on recycled paper," Curt Mann responded.

"Is it their belief that Grant Park is immune to climate change?"

It's really hard to read (or write about) this article with a straight face. But it turns out that the Manns are not totally green.

The Manns are renting a house down the street while their future home undergoes its green transformation. Curt Mann, a former property manager turned developer, frequently bicycles to meetings. But "we're not purists," he said. "I drive an SUV."

Horrors! An SUV? No! Say it ain't so! You better get some carbon offsets. You can get them here for free! Make Algore proud of you!

It's the green thing to do!

Posted by denny at June 26, 2007 01:04 PM  
Comments

You're right, it is talk the talk and walk the walk, but LOOK at how green they're being by conserving Oxygen from not speaking the whole sentence, and saving those electrons when the reporter types his report! They're hero's to us all.

Posted by: jacob on June 26, 2007 02:20 PM

Ted Kennedy successfully fought the placement of windmills off shore from his Cape Cod home. I guess he figured that they might interfere with his driving.

Posted by: Woody on June 26, 2007 05:40 PM

"We're just trying to walk the talk," Christine Mann said

The misquote itself shows what morons these people are. However, the neighbors are just as moronic because as you pointed out Denny, the Grant Park area is about as liberal as you can get here in Georgia yet the neighbors are opposed to it. But, if you look at history, liberals are always willing to sacrifice other peoples rights and redistibute their money, but when it comes to them having to do the same, forget about it. The Kennedy fiasco is a great example of this. Like many of the third world governments I say we let them just fight amongst themselves since they like to and we don't even have to get involved. The problems will resolve on their own with this approach.

Posted by: Ray on June 26, 2007 06:11 PM

Making sport of the other side is too easy, it is like reminding people that the republican base is made up of people who don't believe in evolution and think the earth is less than 10,000 years old because that is what it says in the Bible.

Posted by: John Ryan on June 26, 2007 06:37 PM

If you are going to "Talk the talk, you'd better be ready to walk the walk." So to say we are walking the talk is in a sence, correct. they are putting into action what they have said.
I applaud them!
If I stick a wind tower in my back yard, does that make me liberal? I just hate paying money to guys like Wittig and Lake.
BTW I and the wife are looking into doing just that. Our house is already nearly green. We use geothermal to heat and cool, and our yard is natural praire grass, and most of it is unmowed.
Many of my vehicles are propane fueled as well. Does that make me liberal? Nope, just elcheapo. I didn't get rich by spending it foolishly.

Posted by: Jeremy on June 26, 2007 08:04 PM

John Ryan - And the Dimocrat base believes:

1. Bush stole both the 2000 and 2004 elections.
2. Bush orchestrated 9/11.
3. Manmade global warming.
4. Socialism works.
5. Bill Clinton is honest.
6. Hillary cares for them.
7. All the problems in the world today are caused by the US.
8. Jimmah Carter was a great president.

I could go on and on. I fear the holy rollers much less than I fear the leftwing base. At least the holy rollers are on our side. The leftwing base is not. They want the Moo-slimes to win.

Jeremy - Good for you. If I lived out on the prairie as you do I would probably do much the same. Remember, the evil Jorge Bush has a ranch house in Crawford similar to yours whereas Algore is an energy hog at his Nashville mansion.

Posted by: Denny on June 26, 2007 08:32 PM

So, this guy wants to come off the grid (at least as much as possible)? That doesn't bother me. It is his money. Maybe he he luck up and find a more effecient mill. Then he can turn into a dirty, filthy capitalist marketing it to everyone else.

Resistance is futile. You will assimilate.

Posted by: Another Government Employe on June 26, 2007 08:52 PM

I fear the holy rollers much less than I fear the leftwing base.

Fuckin' A!!!!!!

Posted by: CharlieDelta on June 26, 2007 10:00 PM

If it is really a historic neighborhood, they shouldn't even have electricity. Someone would probably bitch about all of the outhouses too.

Posted by: Mark on June 27, 2007 01:00 AM

If I stick a wind tower in my back yard, does that make me liberal

No absolutely not. But if you do it because you think you're going to reverse global warming and you think that everyone else that doesn't follow suit should be fined or pay some sort of penalty, THEN your a liberal.

Posted by: Ray on June 27, 2007 07:18 AM

After a good read of the article, its time for a more measured response.
I kinda think that the Manns were more tongue in cheek than serious with their comments on glowbull warming. After all, he is a developer, and that would be like a PETA puke who owns a butcher shop.
But assuming he is a liberal, It is indeed hillarious. The neighborhood voted 75% Gore, and they act like it. They oppose any alternative that might bother their precious view. Even though I doubt the thing would be visable because of surrounding vegitation.
I'll bet the Manns aren't the only ones in the neighborhood driving SUVs. They are the vehicle of choice for our local enviromaniacs. The last meeting of the mindless I saw had roughly 60 SUVs in the parking lot, and two VW bugs. None of the people car pooled either.
Denny,you really should look into getting a wind tower. They can put them up quite a ways and you would be a neighborhood leader like the Manns. I'd bet your neighborhood HOA asshat would go bezerk. You should AT THE VERY LEAST talk to her and mention that you are considering it, even if you never would.

Posted by: Jeremy on June 27, 2007 09:14 AM

good post jeremy. There is no badge of honor in using and paying for too much electricity. You could swing a dead cat in my house and hit a dozen of those flourecent bulbs.

was thinking that someone should ask the swimmer if he felt he earned carbon offsets when he made sure Mary Jo Kopechne did not produce anymore CO2.

Posted by: patrick on June 27, 2007 02:46 PM

This could really get to be fun. I remember reading about a place in southwestern England where they put up a wind farm. The noise of the turbines upset the cattle of the neighboring farms to the extent that they stopped giving large quantities and were always upset. There was another article about someone in the Bangor region who put up a windmill and the noise upset the neighbors are taking them to court because it is a public nuisance.

If these people in a relatively upscale and liberal neighborhood start getting the noise from the windmill and it upsets their pets and their kids, you can believe they will be out there in force. NIMBY is the "progressive" attitude to anything. Anywhere else is a good idea but in my back yard, forget it.

Posted by: dick on June 27, 2007 03:31 PM

Patrick,
I'm sending you the doctor bill. I fell out of my chair on that one.
Dick,
Well said. You hit on the mark of the true liberals. They will spend all day telling you and me why we should go green, and all night explaining why they don't need to, and all year fighting our green alternatives if they don't want to look at them. we have had numerous alternative energy farms in the region shot down by the very same liberals who piss and moan about the coal trains that come through several times an hour.
Gotta love em, if nothing else, for their sheer entertainment value.

Posted by: Jeremy on June 27, 2007 11:29 PM

I worked with an enviro-loon who retrofitted his house with all sorts of insulation and vapor barriers. Sealed it up so tight the house got so moldy and rotten the city made him tear it down. Insurance wouldn't cover it. It didn't quite bankrupt him, but he lost all the equity value in his property so the bank called his loan. Still laughing at him about that one.

Posted by: Gerry N. on June 28, 2007 04:52 AM

Just a few observations from one who lived with "alternative" energy for many years both aboard a sailboat and an off grid ranch in NorCAL.
1 The neighborhood does not have enough wind to make the project feasible
2 A 45' tower is not high enough to access the undisturbed wind flow
3 The 12' diameter impeller does not deliver sufficient torque except during the infrequent high winds
These people are just trying to make a political statement: "see how virtuous we are". As for the yard signs, they are probably plastic (a petrochemical)

Posted by: ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ on June 28, 2007 10:22 AM

There was a BIG interest in wind power in the late '70s and early '80s as people looked for ways to get by in times of sky-high energy costs. In fact, there were a bunch of laws making it easier to erect and use windmills to generate electricity, and even allowing citizens to sell power generated this way back to the utility companies (I just barely remember this- don't ask me how it worked).
I wonder how many of those laws are still on the books?

PS- ignore the troll, folks. John's just jealous because he knows that conservatives are smarter than he is.

Posted by: DaveP. on June 28, 2007 10:28 AM

Want a hoot? Go to the Washington Times and read an article by gary Andres about the Demon Crats and their downward spiral.

Posted by: gene Hall on June 28, 2007 03:15 PM

This would be hilarious if it were Lib v. Lib but it is not. The family whose sales contract fell through because of the Mann's turbine could give a hoot about carbon offsets. They just want to sell their home which, when put on the market, attracted three immediate buyers, all of whom backed off because of the turbine tower going up next door.

Other neighbors (probably ones who are looking to sell soon) heard about this and quickly joined the fight against making turbine towers a precedent in Grant Park.

Just thought I'd clear that up.


Posted by: GPguy on June 29, 2007 11:55 PM

Shouldn't the REAL question be--Does Gretchen Carlson suck on Fox&Friends? Send an email to the network if you agree that the wretched one must go. She is a ding-a-ling and has ruined their ratings. I'm thinking of starting a myspace dedicated to her demise. I'd like to see her booted and reporting from a dung stove in china.
How far does the white man guilt have to go? Kyoto is bad policy, enough said.

Posted by: LisaKay on July 3, 2007 08:15 AM
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