Oh well... I watched a TV show (must be true, ha!) that the next "end of the world" prediction by old and new predictors will be 12/21/2012. I'll just keep living it up with my aircon for another 5+ years or so...

Billy

At least when Fred, Rudy, or Mitt get to debate the dummycrap candi-dolt Shrillary, they'll get to choose who they want to co-moderate the thing, regardless of what network it's on.

The dummycraps can run like sissies, but they can't hide.

And besides, who the fuck cares if the chicken-shit libs won't appear on FOX News?

I wouldn't watch those worthless fucks if they paid me, regardless of what network they were on!!!

And neither will the vast majority of Americans, since less than a million watched the lib losers on the PMS-NBC debacle, I mean debate, that was moderated by that know-nothing moron Keith Olberlady, I mean Olbermann.

I have a joke... What smells like shit and lies? Conservatives!!! Bush is a dumbass, Cheneys a liar, the war is pointless, and roses are red. You right wing Nazis dont know what youre talking about, always labeling anyone who doesnt believe in your narrow minded propaganda as terrorists or liberals. You whine about MSNBC being biased, yet praise Fox News, you bitch and moan about how other people can't see the truth, and yet youre all so narrow minded and blind. You sicken me. You claim were saving lives with the war, and yet every week, innocents and soldiers perish by the dozen. Its a damn good thing democrats will take over in '08 to shut you right wing dangly genitals up. HEYO!!!

I have a joke...What cannot spell or use correct grammar?

Another limp-wristed loser lib pussy moron too fuckin' chickenshit to use his name and email address.

Fuck off and die you stupid illiterate asshole.

A dummycrap President in '08, faggot? Only in your wet dreams, loser.

You just insulted my honor so badly. What are you gonna do next, conservative, call me a liberal? Go suck Bush's dick...

There was a poll 3 weeks ago, no not the poll your mom dances on each night at the club, another one. The results were that all 3 democrat cantidates beat all 3 conservative scumbags. Where are your mommies and daddies now?

I guess I'll visit this thread when summer vacation is over and the immature high schooler's are back eatin' boogers and masturbating to FHM...

next debate : evolution !

Denny, Denny, Denny...
You find your list pretty impressive? A novelist, a political advisor of Thatcher?

What about this one :

the Australian Academy of Sciences, Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts, Brazilian Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Canada, Caribbean Academy of Sciences, Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences, German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National Science Academy, Indonesian Academy of Sciences, Royal Irish Academy, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy), Academy of Sciences Malaysia, Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand, Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and Royal Society (UK)

Those are the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and represent the consensus of the international scientific community on climate change science.

and you know that in 2005 the national science academies of the G8 nations (including the United States National Academy of Sciences) plus science academies of Brazil, China and India (three of the largest emitters of greenhouse gases in the developing world) signed a statement on the global response to climate change. The statement stresses that the scientific understanding of climate change had become sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action.

But, if Crichton or Heartland institute say it's bullshit...

Dims are pussies! Nothing more, nothing less...

if it's a postulate...

Actually Prosper it's a fact.

It's not only a matter of fact, it's tangible...

not a single democrat friend or relative?
or maybe you call them pussies...

Yes Prosper-
I have 'friends' and relatives who happen to be insane long-life Dims, but when the SHTF, they won't know what to do, and then guess what???

While they're holding onto their "Hillary '08" banner, they'll be begging me for a rifle and ammo...

And to answer your question, yes...

PUSSIES!

"I have 'friends' and relatives who happen to be insane long-life Dims, but when the SHTF, they won't know what to do, and then guess what???'

Kind of reminds you or some European countries huh CD. Think they know it all and what's good for them and the rest of the world, then when SHTF, the hand is out pleading please save us from out stupid selves great satan, ummm, we mean wonderful USA.

Liberal Democrats are pussies. They flock together amongst their own kind only...that's the only way they can survive. If they were to go to a place which had common sense "emanating" from it, the Democrats knew they'd lose out. Democrats follow the old, "Birds Of A Feather, Flock Together" mentality. Fortunately, for liberal Democrats, most of the Hollywood elite are just like them, hence why their "word" gets out the way it does. If Hollywood were not infested with liberals, the liberal Democrat party as we all know it would be in trouble.

Oh yeah, this is precisely one of the reasons as to why the Democrats want to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. I wonder if the Fairness Doctrine will be enforced for ABCCBSNBCCNNPBSMSNBC?

You see, you can speak out against the liberal Democrats all you like, but in the end, they will simply try to censor you. Conservative talk radio and the Fairness Doctrine is a prime example. Then again, censorship is the only way liberal Democrats know how to compete. They tried with Air America, and look how "successful" Air America Radio was? Uh huh, moving on: So, given the failure of liberal talk radio, how do they compete with conservative talk radio? Why the Fairness Doctrine, of course!

I have a question for you liberals out there: What is next after the Fairness Doctrine? A "Fairness Doctrine" for us bloggers? It wouldn't surprise me.

Just what part of "Congress Shall Make No Law ..... " do you liberal assholes not understand?

By the way, I have phone calls into each and every one of my Congressman about this, and I have yet to hear back from any of them. Even the one RINO here hasn't gotten back to me.

Prosper:

The statement stresses that the scientific understanding of climate change had become sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action.

Huh. So, they're willing to forego funding and work on it for free, then?

I suspect not. And I suspect that "Climate Change" (Which gets rid of the pesky "Warming" or "Cooling" specific) is a serious matter on the minds of many scientists who want grants from government.

20 years ago, we were sure we were headed for a global ice age. Now, we're heading for a roasting hot time. Which is it? Actually, a few degrees warmer would help a hellvua lot - it would increase crop yields, allow arable land to increase about 10-15%, make Canada inhabitable, and Siberia livable.

Greenland would be green again.

I have the utmost respect for scientists - as long as I know who's paying for their research, which side of the bread they've got buttered. Yes, it matters.

Additionally...... China especially I'd be suspect of. Chinese don't speak independantly of the government - much, or for long, which means the government signed off on that report. They don't mean to change anything they're doing, but it's a pressure point on the US economy. (Or the French economy - met those Kyoto targets yet?)

Tell ya what, Prosper: When they can get the 10 day extended forecast right, we'll talk about the 20 year outlook.

Greenland ice core drilling project 1990/1992

Intrigued by claims of proof for global warming, I researched & read this........

1.The estimated time frame covered by this project was on the order of 125,000 years
2. 21,000 years ago the dissolved CO2 was 190/200PPM
3. 10,000 years ago it was 270/280PPM or a rise of 80/90PPM
4.50/100 years ago it began a "HUGE RISE" to 360PPM or 80/90PPM co-incidentially the same as the rise 10,000 years ago
5. While puzzling the study urged caution as to why the latest rise because while Global Warming can be an influence as CO2 can be absorbed from atmospheric sources , sea water or from known fluctuations during melt conditions. To substantiate this it was found that ice core drillings in Greeland paralleled those in Antarctica with the only significant differance being the fluctuation in dissolved Gases during the many climatic changes.
6.This study also documented numerous rapid climate changes...24 at a minimum since the last glaciation, these rapid climate changes displayed temperature variations of 10/15F in some cases of less then a decade.
7.This study also showed evidance of rapid cooling with the same temperature swings.
8. This study also revealed other green house gases such as Methane dissolved in the core samples varied as well.
9.One particular hypothesis was if the dissolved CO2 reachs 750PPM it is possible the gulf stream heat pump could be turned off, it has happened in the past & do do so again would result in rapid cooling & a return for Artic conditions.
10. The project raised many questions as to the meaning for the rise of CO2 concentrations, some think it is evidance of mans activities releasing more CO2 to the atmosphere, some say it is because of solar heat, some say it is a dire warning, some say it is natural as these changes have occured in the past & no big deal.
11. I guess my take is since this has been on-going for at least 125,000 years with all kinds of climate change, warm periods, cold periods & swings in values for dissolved Greenhouse gases, I will join the majority of Scientists who do not support climate alarmist activities.

In any event the statement posted in a previous thread which claimed dissolved CO2 concentrations were steady for much of the 125,000 year period with a huge increase in the last 150 years was just not true, at least that was what the final study report indicated.The Algore Global Warming Bandwagon lost another wheel when confronted with the project`s report.

Unix, you mean you don't trust your own national science academy? What would be their purpose? Are they infested by commies? Is that why part of your own population (I read 45% of your citizens, but you must be carefull with polls) don't believe in evolution?

Prosper:

Why are you asking me what I've already explained?

I explained why I'd have my doubts.

Now, if you just want to get into gratiuitous French and American bashing, you know I'm always up for that. But you always end up surrendering so quickly!

Prosper......

I thought you had founded a muslim monastary & taken a vow not to post.......Forty five percent of Americans do not believe in evolution, must be the fact about the same percentage identifies themselves as Liberals & they do not allow truth to affect their judgement either.
Read my post about the ice core drilling project which was a world wide co-operative venture, at least half of them do not follow the Global Warming alarmist program as put forth by Algore or his supporters.

Forty five percent of Americans do not believe in evolution, must be the fact about the same percentage identifies themselves as Liberals

I thougth it was a red-state speciality, part of your culture wars.

Besides the United States a study compared data from 32 European countries, Turkey ,and Japan. The only country where acceptance of evolution was lower than in the United States was Turkey (25%). You know, Turkey, the country your President want to join EU. Conservatives in your country whu would agree with euroweenies ? No way !

And I think the Global Warming controversy is another oh those culture wars. Conservatives in your country don't have faith in science anymore... It's very amazing from europe, where there is not such controversy. We may be right or wrong, but we all (stupidly ?) believe in evolution or global warming.

Prosper - "don't trust your own national science academy?"

Actually the NAS report makes clear that though there is cause for concern about human impacts on global warming, there are also enormous uncertainties and unresolved issues which need to be taken into account when crafting public policy on this issue. Pretending those uncertainties exist only in the minds of "quibblers" is not a reasonable way to proceed when deciding how to proceed.

More here: http://www.skepticism.net/articles/2001/000021.html

Ray-
You hit the nail on the head with that one!

Prosper couldn't be more wrong.

Most of the skepticism towards global warming in the United States is coming from libertarian minded individuals who find it a remarkable coincidence that the proposed solutions to global warming always seem to be the same statist answers to every other problem that has arisen in the last century.

Also, many scientists are skeptical over the gloom and doom scenarios that Al Gore and his minions have predicted. They certainly aren't in lock step on this issue.

Bringing evolution into this debate is a complete non sequitor. Most libertarian skeptics of Anthropogenic global warming agree with evolutionary theory. A lot of Christians who do not believe in evolution are supporters of AGW theory because it follows their belief that man will, in the end, destroy the world.

So who is the religious zealot here?

I would think after several years of debating Americans, Prosper, that you would have realized that the political realities here are not as simple as is typically portrayed in European media.

This whole global warming bull-shit is a liberal scheme to stop the expansion of capitalism in the third world. This along with the LOST treaty now being perpetuated by the UN is just another means to bring the US down to the level of European socialst countries that believe in world government. Has anybody ever read anything suggesting China obey the UN on global warming or anything else substantive? Have there ever been a proposal by the UN or any European country to force China to quit forced labor? This whole global warming is a farce and Al Gore is a dunce.

One question that has never been answered by the global warming freaks is, "What is the exact perfect temperature of the planet earth that we are trying to maintain?". If we are warming, warming from what to what? What's the ideal temperature? No one can answer that one.

Bingo! Got my AOTW. I thought it was gonna be Jon, but he just got beaten out by my latest little troll.

Prosper - I'm just pointing out that the debate over manmade GW is not settled. Crichton may be a novelist, but his book was very well researched and footnoted with his sources. Your evolution comment was off topic. We're not talking about evolution, we're discussing manmade GW. You just used the liberal tactic of deflecting. I thought you were above that. As U-J said, if you want to get into American/French bashing we can.

The point of this post is that the Pope of the religion of Manmade GW refuses to debate someone with opposing views. What is he afraid of? Just like Dims won't appear on Fox News. What are they afraid of?

Remember, Pope Algore keeps moving the goalposts. He's now saying ten years until the point of no return. Funny, he said that six years ago as well. Four years from now he'll still be saying it.

I would give him a lot more credence if he led by example and didn't have such a large carbon footprint.

Damn, guess I'll have to pick it up next week.

Hey, wow! How about that timing? I was about to mention some things, but I think I'll just wait for Denny's next AOTW entry. It'll be MUCH more fun to comment on that.

So Dem's are pussies, are they?

Then why do you pursue them so?

It couldn't be that you have a need to FUCK them, could it?

As I understand this rant, those "pussies" NEED fucking for their own good; they're just too fucking-stupid to know that they need fucking.

Fucking PUSSIES! Too goddamned stupid to know that they need to be fucked!

Oh, yeah! .... THAT makes a LOT of sense!

Why can't they be like all those decent Repub's who -day-after-day-after day- keep getting caught in repressed-homosexual affairs in latrines?

DanS-
Put the bong down dude. I think you fell off your rocker...

...or pick the bong up.

Either way, I think you fell off your rocker on this one, so happy landings!

Charlie Delta, My good & great friend:

The mere fact of your confusion over my even having a bong tells me that I've touched a nerve that wants no touching.

I also have no rocker (but I sure-as-shit WISH I did!).

I have no wish to piss you off; indeed, I think of you as a springboard.

So, you are telling me here, in open court, that Dem's are being charged with crimes related to repressed-homosexuality every other week and avowed-Repub's ain't? And that they 'fess up and take RESPONSE-ABILITY for such?

Put your mind to rest on this: I have no bong. What I wonder is if YOU have such a bong!

I'm on record as casting my future-vote for the Republican, Ron Paul.

You Jew-lianni voters, you Mitt's, you Fredrick of Hollywood Republicans are going down in flames .... not because I say so, but because YOU do.

You want a chance, an opportunity, an unexpected dark-horse? Ron Paul.

I think I've posted elsewhere that Ron Paul could come from NOWHERE and capture the Whitehouse!

I'm not being disingenuous in sharing this with you; Ron Paul could knock any and all current-candidates into oblivion if he gets the funding.

DanS-
I do in fact own a bong. You never know when you'll have a friend over who wants to get stoned, but forgot his papers. I am far from a stoner (beer and cigarettes are my vice.) At the same time, when I camp with a good group of friends and someone breaks out a pinner, I'll take a hit.

If I didn't know any better, your most recent comments would lead me to believe you were some 19yr. old kid hittin' the hookah at a KOS Cuntvention or something. THC makes for a great truth serum, does it not?

I guess I just assumed that's what Denny meant by you needing more/less meds. My bad.

I'm not pissed in the least. There's alot more going on around me than to get pissed at a comment towards me from a dude I've never even met in person. You're entertaining to say the least.

Back to the topic at hand. YES! I believe most, if not all, Dims are PUSSIES and need a good FUCKING before they see the light.

LisaK sent me a joke one time and I laugh everytime I think about it...

How many liberals does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Who the fuck cares? They'll never see the light anyways!

Denny! American bashing? It's just so bad!
Have a nice trip !

(and avoid bridges!)

;-)

Jokes aside, there's no room for american bashing here.

In 2005 (G8 summit), your President recognised "that the surface of the Earth is warmer and that an increase in greenhouse gases is contributing to the problem".

In 2007 the G8 also announced their desire to use the proceeds from the auction of emission rights and other financial tools to support climate protection projects in developing countries.

So it seems manmade global warming is admitted by your government. And as it is admitted by both the two chambers of your Congress (full of commies-pussies-dimocrats), we can say that America is on board.

Just conservatives do not agree. So I may have to invent the conservative bashing...

Yeah but Prosper, our government also admits (believes?) there are moderate Muslims and we can coexist on this planet with them which ALL people with common sense and at least an 8th grade education realize is bull shit. So we (Americans) don't all tow the government line that they throw us all the time. Please stop confusing us with the citizens of the EU who believe everything and do everything their government tells them (ie "Don't worry fair citizens, allowing all these Muslims to invade our fair cities will have no detrimental affect on our way of life"). Get my point. Probably not.

You know Ray, we (you and me) live in democracy. It is sad you don't trust your government nor your representatives. When you say "We(Americans)", do you mean "We(white american right-wingers hating those left pussies)" ?

Prosper, there's a big difference in "trusting" your goverment and believing everything that comes from them is completely factual. Read our constitution some time. It was written exactly with this fact in mind. We are always supposed to be diligent and at times skeptical of those that are running our country. It's part of the checks and balances we have in our system. It's not sad that we question things, it's a responsibility. Now as we have more and more socialist leaning politicians in office (like the French government) it is even more imperative that we question their motives and actions before taking them all at their word. And I'm not familiar enough with French government, but by definition, we are not a Democracy, we are a contitutional republic, which may wind up being that which saves us or that which puts us under, depending on whether socialism continues to plaque our society.

Prosper:

And as it is admitted by both the two chambers of your Congress (full of commies-pussies-dimocrats), we can say that America is on board.

Only if you don't understand the first thing about how America works.

Oh, by the way, speaking of that Global Warming you believe in:

NASA scientist who accused Bush of "politicizing Global Warming" found to have distorted - badly - his numbers..

The fact he wouldn't allow anybody else to see his work/algorithim is pretty damning this wasn't accidental.

Good ole boy Dingell is putting up a bill to add federal tax of $.50 per gallon on gas to fight globe warming. Ok, can someone explain to me how that is going to help? Just more money in the feds pockets. BEST thing about it is even the liberals will have to pay it!! Yeah, good deal $.50 to fight something that man has no control over. Good use of my hard earned money. The no-nothing, studying nothing Americans are in for a huge awakening - yeah hit their pocketbooks! I remember in the 70's talk of the coming ice age. I put my faith where it belongs and it is with scientists on NEITHER side of the global warming issue.

Prosper - It's August. Are you on vacation? Where did you take your family?

One bridge out of over 70,000 that are considered in need of repair collapsed. That's a pretty good statistic. BTW, the city knew the bridge was rated as poor and did nothing, but it was Bush's fault. Probably had sumpin' to do with Haliburton.

When the Kyoto Treaty was submitted to the Senate the vote against ratification was 95-0. Kyoto would cripple our economy as it would yours. Here's the deal. Man is responsible for 5% of the carbon emissions. If we cut our emissions by 20%, that would be a 1% reduction which is a drop in the bucket. China, which is gonna overtake us next year and India are exempt. Go ahead and destroy your economy for a myth. Our politicians talk like they're on board, but they don't want to totally destroy our economy, at least I hope not. Don't you realize that American politicians lie? Haven't you heard all the chants of, "Bush lied"? And we can always tell when Bill and Hillary lie. Their lips move.

Prosper - Did you read that NASA has now released corrected figures on climate data? It turns out that 1934 was the warmest year on record. 5 out of the 10 warmest years on record now occurred before WWII.

Democrat's now's your chance ! Unite - show the right wingers that you are not pussies . Come on now you can do it .
I'm waiting .
I'm still waiting come on .
Oh I forgot you are still busy with that whole war on poverty thing .
Hows that working out for ya ?
Well when you are ready I'm sure there will still be a few islamic nut cases out there somewhere that ole whacky GW aint killed yet .
Just let me know when you are ready .

Majorca my dear Denny... A spanish island in the Mediterranean sea. I don't remember if you already went to Spain, but they are nice people. I'm looking fo a picture of the kids playing at beach to send to you...

Prosper:
I wonder how much greenhouse gas is being released every time a car burns in a Paris suburb?
What size carbon footprint does a Citroen flambé leave on the environment? Do the Mullah's pay an offset or plant trees to compensate for this fouling of Allah's (PBUH) earth?

Shouldn't you try to reason with the troubled youth responsible for polluting your pure air? Or don't you care since the pollution is only going over to the filthy Germans?

Speaking of your population of immigrants, I wonder how many of them believe in Evolution? I know they believe that infidels came from pigs and monkeys, but what about Allah's (PBUH) chosen ones? Are they the product of Evolution or Devolution?

Nosmo

"Citroen flambé"! Brilliant one Nosmo!
Those flaming cars must be adding to the problem... ban all Citroen's then I say! :-)

Prosper....

I was re-reading some of your comments & would like to correct one point. you stated that we conservatives do not have faith in science. Not true as we place a lot of faith, trust & believe in a scientific approach to problem solving, but in order for the conclusion to be valid.....all relative information known must be a part of the analysis not just the possible information which is being used to establish a political position.

You see as I stated in a previous post in order to establish a new interpretation you must be able to explain away previous belief & also justify why your new interpretation fits more properly in a scientific definition.

This is what is wrong with the Algores , his imitators & supporters, In their hysteria to promote a political agenda truth is the first casualty in their reasoning or lack of. Just as Jon made a statement in proof of global warming based on ice core drillings....what was really established was not what he stated . In short he lied or to be quite generous, was in over his head. Given the single-mindedness of most leftwing invironmentalists , I believe he mis-represented the truth.....dumb thing to do when it can be readily checked.

Global Warming Proof!!!!!!!!

Washington Times Headline......."Artic Ocean getting warm, Seals vanish & Ice Bergs melt"...When was this,last month? No, it was November 2, 1922 almost 85 years ago. This was dug up by John Mc Caslin of the WT & re-posted from Don Surbers Web site.
Any one think Algore will be swayed or his supporters by this revelation? Naw, truth is not a player in the Global Warming movement.

Aside to Jon......This is what we call supportive fact to substantiate our belief that Global Warming is not a new man caused catastrophe but a natural event.

You know, I was just thinking yesterday about global warming. The last time I was in Iraq it was averaging about 130 this time of year. I was beginning to think the first timers should begin to think I'm a liar by now because it hasn't topped 120 yet. Actually, it's been a nice brisk 110 the past couple of weeks. Go figger....

More global warming data.........

Erie Pa Snowfall records;
Top ten snowiest.....
1. 149.1" 2000/01...7 yrs ago
2. 143.0" 2002/03...5 yrs ago
3. 142 8" 1977/78...30 yrs ago
4. 131.2" 1990/91...17 yrs ago
5. 129.2" 1995/96...12 yrs ago
6. 124.9" 2005/06...2 yrs ago
7. 122.6" 2004/05...3 yrs ago
8. 120.0" 1970/71...37 yrs ago
9. 115.9" 1963/64...44 yrs ago
10.114.9" 1989/90...18 yrs ago
Special note! 7 of the top 10 were in the last 20 yrs.All within 44 yrs

least ten snowiest....
1. 19.6" 1932/33...75 yrs ago
2. 22.8" 1918/19...89 yrs ago
3. 30.4" 1931/32...76 yrs ago
4. 32.1" 1905/06...102 yrs ago
5. 32.3" 1948/49...most recent on (10) list 59 yrs ago
6. 35.2" 1906/07...101 yrs ago
7. 35.6" 1936/37...71 yrs ago
8. 35.9" 1928/29...79 yrs ago
9. 37.9" 1921/22...86 yrs ago
10.38.1" 1941/42...66 yrs ago
Special note! none within last 59 yrs,9 were 66 yrs or more ago.

Monthly temperature records......
Jan. high 72 1950 low -18 1994
Feb. high 72 1932 low -17 1979
Mar. high 82 1945 low -09 1980
Apr. high 89 1990 low 12 1982
May. high 90 1996 low 26 1970
Jun. high 100 1988 low32 1972
Jul. high 99 1990 low 44 1963
Aug. high 94 1953 low 37 1982
Sep. high 94 1953 low 33 1974
Oct. high 88 1951 low 24 1975
Nov. high 81 1950 low 06 1929
Dec. high 75 1982 low -06 1983
High temps..... 7 were more then 54 years ago, 4 were more then 15 years ago & 1 was 11 years ago.
Low temps....6 were in last 20 years,4 more since 1970, one in 1963 & one in 1929.

It sure doesn`t look like global warming is having much effect here in Erie Pa...I suspect were people to check their local area records, the same trends would be apparent.
For Erie it would seem likely if anything a cooling period has been in effect for the last 37 years with significant & increasing snowfall the norm.
I recognize short term climatic changes are not indicative of long term effects but it does illustrate the current Global warming hysteria favored by the LSM & liberal environmentalists is BS. To those of you who are still mesmerized by Algores braying at the moon..... Do a little research of your own , you will be very disappointed to find you have been lied to.