Bill is melting down:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=4102345

Maggie was a tiny lady but she sent her forces to the Falklands. Reagan loved the feisty little lady.

This is how the woman who claims that she's "tough" enough to be the leader and Commander-in-Chief of the USA reacts to a drop in the polls???

First Hillary! moans the other dimocrats are ganging up on her because she's a girl, now this. If Hillary! can set feminism back so far with her pissant whining and crybaby antics, imagine what she'd do to the country. How is this charlatan going to handle a real crisis?

Between Hillary!, Barack Hussein Obama's vacuous "change" and "hope" twaddle and John Edwards whoring his wife's cancer, the left should be proud of the three dolts they have running for President.

We are.

I am reminded of that obscure Edgar Broughton Band song from '72 that had the line in it "...Wait til the Russians get hold of you..." Hillary, wait til the Chicoms, Putin, Osama, et al get hold of you...Mbwahahahaha..

cya, Hillary. And good riddance. Take your cheatin' husband with you.

Both Thatcher and Clinton are women and that's where their comparison ends. Thatcher isn't so much a woman as she is a lady. Which means her public conduct is pristine and worthy of respect. The point is, a lady like Thatcher never plays the boo-hoo game. She is what she is, but she doesn’t use what she is. She doesn’t hold up her sex as a stratagem and this is precisely where Hillary Clinton fails as having the ability to be a leader a girl scout group let alone the country . (ok..ok... along with her many other failures, this is a biggy because it shows her unmentionables)
;-)

The inevitable one that has raised 100 million dollars is now out begging for more money. Hollywood is pissed and now is starting to pump more money into BO. Bill is really upset. He's blaming the same press that covered his ass for ten years. This is in the makings of a good movie or a bad soap opera. Go Fred!

Hillary's old clique is joining her campaign to shake things up. You can't change the spots on a skunk.

"We are."

And with that comment, we see the ridiculously pathetic rationale that people have now when voting for Democrats. We should coin a phrase, voting while Democrat, or voting while liberal, to show just how reckless these citizens are that support these souless liars that make up the Democratic party. If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, this country is not ready for a woman President and it's damn sure not ready for a black President. Regardless of whether you agree with the reasons this is so or not, it's the facts. I see these facts are beginning to play out in these primaries. Once Hillary's out of the picture and Barack is in, you will see how many people will distance themselves from him once they realize a large portion of the population are drawn to him only because of the fact that he is black and for no other reason. Then, the few Democrats with any sense, will no longer support him and his candidacy and it will be interesting to see how and why we have another Republican President voted into the White House. And no, again, this will not be a stolen election for you black helicopter trolls.

Somewhere in Arkansas, a trailer park is waiting for it's trash to come home! Who does she think she is having this little meltdown, Britney Spears?

DanS.....

Sorry,really sorry DanS! .....But I am in the long line who consider you to be an asshole for your latest mindless remark for prideful support of the Democratic Three Dolts currently front running in the Liberal Socialist Stooge cross country event.

If you think that wasn't calculated then you don't know the Clintons. Nothing happens in the Clinton camp that isn't a cold, calculated move.

With acting talent like that, she should to move to Hollywood....and cut grass.

agreed Kerrcarto....lol Darrell.. as I type this Hillary appears to be ahead in NH. I can't stand it. I take comfort in two things. 1. republicans protest by "voting". and 2. no one will elicit republican protest like Hillary.

DanS. cowboy up and respond to my Jay Grostner challenge.

I hope the Hillesaurus stays in the race. First of all, she's willing to do the dirty work of kicking around the clown with all those teeth and the big ears. (See her carefully crafted faux faux pas about Obama not having done the spade work.) Even more important, watching Hillary twist in the wind and suffer public embarassment and humiliation is such an overdue pleasure. Please! Don't let it end early! For Paula's sake! Its about the only innocent pleasure I have any more.

Holy crap. Looks like Hillary may take New Hampshire. Holy crap. McCain takes New Hampshire.

My fellow conservatives, I hate to sound so downtrodden but I think the Reagan Conservative movement may be at sunset. Huckabee in Iowa, Romney in Wisconsin, and now McCain in New Hampshire. It appears that our poor education system, together with the entitlement mentality thrown at us day in and day out by the media and government, and the general breakdown in family values and culture of self-empowerment, have finally caught up to us. The American population is now leaning to the left and borders upon moronic and endless ignorance. Our entitlement programs are unsustainable, and the next President, whether Repub or Demo will likely pile on more entitlement programs and reckless spending. With a national debt of $9.2 trillion, an aging population, and a looming recession that appears to be sending tidal waves across the globe...hello bankruptcy and misery. Hello Uncle Sam. Have you come to steal MORE OF MY MONEY?!! AND GIVE TO THE FUCKING SQUATTER IN MY HOUSE?!!

I guess we'll have to hit rock bottom before the public realizes how bad this country's two oldest generations have fucked us all. Thanks grandpa. Thanks dad. You guys really fucked your kids and grand kids real good. Enjoy that retirement ON OUR BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS!! THANKS FOR THE FUCKING $9.2 TRILLION CREDIT CARD BILL!! In the words of Sam Kinison, "OH! OHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!"

“It is well enough that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” - Henry Ford

Paul, get your balls back in the bag man!
We still have a year of this bullshit.

Fret not, Fred will come out when the southern primaries start. Because if we southern conservatives don't vote for him , he will hunt us down one by one and tickle torture us...to death, and that is something I am not willing to risk.

Scared of a National ID, are you?

National ID addresses all of your comments & puts to rest all of your fears and concerns!

Except you can't commit to that because it exposess' you latent Nazi-ism.

That's cool with me. You wanna be a Nazi, it's 'jake' with me.

A National ID would alleviate ten-thousand of your 'Issues'; it's YOU who don't want the 'issues' solved.

Why is that?

Ray:

Citizens ARE allowed to be 'reckless' just because they ARE reckless.

Comes with being an American.

Perhaps 'now' you might be getting a glimmer of why so many American's have a problem?

May the storms, the rain, the snow & the clouds assail you that you might capitalize!

"We are"

is

THAT

threating to you?

If so, Good Bye Republican Party for the next 30 Years!

Note, Ye, that Dem's have withstood such venal attacks for YEARS & are still here and viable!

Where's your problem with "WE are"?

Comes now a day & time when YOU are asked to shit or get off the pot.

Nothing more; nothing less.

Let me finish this thread with the observation that it started with a lie:

YOU show me where the good, strong Dem Hill cried at any time.

Methinks yer just pissed because the Dem-side has competent & valid argument to fight with each other.

YOUR side is reduced to Giuliani thinking Romney placed illegal's in the Twin Towers on 9/11 just to give DA Thompson a case to try on TV.

Which Huckabee vigoursly denies.

Watch, stupid, for what the Paulite's have set for you as an "October Surprise"!

DanS-
Can you email me some of what you're smokin'? It seems like some good shit!

Except you can't commit to that because it exposess' you latent Nazi-ism.

Nazi-ism? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? Nazi-ism?

Please tell me where the Nazi-ism takes place...

The last I heard, the Nazis were a bunch of Socialists. Far from Conservatives dude....

CD:

Look for a barrage of e-mail!

"Nazi" means Socialist to you???
I think you have it confused with the USSR.

CD:

Relying on but the American Heritage Dictionary, I offer the following:

Noun 1. national socialism - a form of government featuring racism and expansionism and obedience to a strong leader

Naziism, Nazism
fascism - a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism).

See the dichotomy here? See how the language is used to twist things?

Regards!

National Socialist German Workers' Party, Thats what NAZI meant. They were so wacky that Joe Stalin didn't like them.

DansS, just because SOME Americans are reckless (aka, the Sheeple that would vote for a Democrat) doesn't make it right. Some reckless Americans protest at the gravesides of fallen soldiers, some reckless Americans think 9/11 was an inside job. That's the problem with libs like you, you think that just because "something" exists makes it acceptable. That's one of my definitions of lack of intelligence. And what attacks on Dems to you refer to. The only attacks I see on them are from within their own party. The Republicans are too busy trying to get the business of running this country and would rather not be bothered by the pettiness that is Dimocrats, unfortunately, while trying to wage a war, bring back some personal responsibility issues to this country, the Dims have thrown every obstacle in the way of them just for the sake of partisanship. Thank goodness this country has a minority that think like you, because if it did, we'd be living like the French.

DanS......

Nothing wrong with being a Democrat...... but to support a socialist who pretends to be a Democrat & is opposed to what this country stands for makes one suspect your reasoning abilities or establishes you to be an asshole.
National ID...we are against this?...It is the ACLU, The Democratic Party, The NAACP & the liberal think tanks who are opposed to this & actively fight it not the Republicans or Conservatives......You see we support it , have requested it & agree it would solve a number of problems . I guess you are more conservative then you realize. Membership in the Republican National committee is but a phone call away.
As dumb as I think you are with support for Hillary, you are not alone. I think Hillary has collected enough political IOU`S to assure herself of the Democratic Nomination on the first ballot regardless of what the primaries show. However if she fails a first ballot confirmation ...then she is toast.
I also am convinced she will lose to whoever the Republican Nominee is.Most Republicans & other Conservatives do not stand around with hands out-stretched as are the Democratic welfare core base, or suck on the Federal welfare teat. We have jobs ,work hard & support the deadbeats who make up the bulk of the Democratic core base.
We recognize full well the danger this country would be in with a socialist like Hillary in the White House as President. The damage would be astronomical.

The modern "progressive" movements of Marxism, Fascism, Communism, Nazism, Socialism are all from the same rotten branch of the political tree. The Right/Left dichotomy on the so-called political spectrum is an artificial intellectual construct designed to mask two centuries of the left's miserable failures by apportioning some of its excesses, indiscretions and miscalculations to the other side.

A more accurate political spectrum reflecting reality would have those on one side who are wont to use coercive means via the power of the State (or in some countries, organized religion) to achieve their self-serving ends, and the rest of us who believe in freedom and individual liberties.

Statists versus Freemen.

My opinion is that we shouldn't get so worked up about anything that politicians do. Politicians, regardless of their political party affiliation, race, or gender, all tell lies. They all take bribes from lobbyists. They all vote according to how special interest groups pressure them into voting...instead of doing what's right for their constituency. They are all patently dishonest people whose main objective in anything that they do is to get elected or to get re-elected. They will do whatever and say whatever it takes to accomplish that.

Politicians have the authority and wherewithal to do so much good for the people. But instead, all they want, and all they appear to be satisfied with, is the power, money, and perks.

Just like religious leaders, I find politicians to be disgusting excuses for human beings.

Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but unless your're dirt poor, super rich, or in the military, your life will be exactly the same regardless of who the president is, who your senators are, who your governor is, or who your representatives are.

Right ON, GT!

The one thing I would like DanS to explain to me as he has shown himself to be an articulate, sentient being is simply - how can you support a party that has as one of its most senior representatives the criminal survivor from Chappaquidick?

45govt:

That's EZ!

I support issues & answers and don't subscribe to any cult of personality!

Is Ted K dead-to-rights WRONG? U betcha! Can I DO anything about it to make it all-better? Not to my knowledge. Should I shitcan an entire party because of one bad apple? No, I don't think so. Should I note, read, heed & take notice of the wrongness and seek to avoid same? Yep.

Might I ask then: how does one support a President who is reckless in all things? Might I ask why one would support a Party who thrusts forward such an imbecile?

See how that broad-brush covers like Sherwin-Williams?

Dudley1 & Ray (and U2, patrick!):

May I address you as one & take on your combined-points?

First of all, you are all-the-time ascribing things to & about me as if that makes it Gospel-True. Well, it just ain't so.

Some 30 years ago, about the time when "Swimmer" was swimming, I was the staunchest Conservative you'd ever hope to have the pleasure of knowing.

And then along came a Girl I fell in love with. A serape-wearing, flower-toting, long-haired girl who smelled like SOAP & water. Among other things, we engaged in a spirited and principled argument that endures to this day.

I mention this because I've come to learn that a TRUE Conservative knows not the craziness that is true & genuine soulfelt LOVE.

Now, mind you, I'm not endorsing nor denying anyone or anything! I am simply laying out for you the difference, as I see it, between what y'all call Leftist Liberal Loopiness (with an added pinch of BDS) and what I call hard-eyed reality.

Y'all can do things with your hands; so can I. Y'all can do things with your mind; so can I.
Y'all can look in a mirror and see what you want to see; and there we diverge.

Y'see, that's the fork-in-the-Road where Love & Logic force a decision. One can't Logic one's way to Love, but Love sure can blur Logic.

And hence you have Me. Struggling to hold on to Logic in the face of overwhelming Love.

Therefore, the label(s) that apply here are not about Repub nor Dem, Lib V. Conser, idiot nor genius, Left versus Right, but rather choosing to accept the unknowable ocean called Love or the more easily navigated terrain, the sure-footedness, of Logic.

Is that so hard to understand?

GT.....

I agree with most of your points;

1. Politicians lie & are dishonest....about 98%,but there have been a few who did serve us well & did so in a completely honest manner....Goldwater & Hubert Humphrey come to mind as the only examples I can reference. There are others who did well but had to resort to being less then forthcoming at the time actions were underway.
It is true our politicians are disgusting examples of human beings...bottom feeders for the most part.
2. I do take exception that it does not matter who our President, Senators& Representatives are in that these people can make critical changes to our freedoms or even work in collusion to abridge what our constitution states. This is why it is important to keep a Hillary Clinton out of a position of central authority as she being a Liberal Socialist has already stated the government should make decisions & choices for the people as they were incapable of doing so themselves. She has no respect for the common people & no belief in what the Constitution mandates . She has stated in the past one of her political beliefs was a living constitution subject to change to suit current interpreted need or aims is more appropriate then the restrictive one we have. As to her personal opinion of those around her & other human beings , I suggest you go to "Parkway Rest Stop" & read his post "In her own words" for an eye opener of what a vile foul mouthed bitch she really is.
Our constitution was written & reinforced with a Bill of rights which restrict the ability of the Government to impose its will to the people or to violate certain freedoms granted to us by our creator. Hillary, if given the opportunity would in my opinion have absolutely no qualms to attempt to rewrite, & reinterpret to suit her socialist positions.
The fact she is even under consideration for the office of President let alone the favorite to capture the Democratic nomination is a sad commentary for the awareness of the American People to any sense of political reality. This election is indeed crucial, while there are shortcomings for all the other avowed candidates of both parties, none seem determined to undermine the intent of the constitution as she has stated in the past.All of the Democratic candidates are liberal but none have grabbed the mantle of Progressive or Socialist as has Hillary.
At this time I could not in good conscience vote for any of the Democratic hopefuls & do not see much which inspires me in the Republican party , this election will probably be a choice for the lesser of two evils.

DanS.....

I stated long ago you were at heart a good person & yes love is great! That being stated it is important to make sure you do not lose sight of reality & allow for one determined to undermine the freedom to enjoy & express what you profess to gain ability to compromise your euphoria.
This would be the best definition of "logic" for you to consider. Live your life of love as you choose but you must still be able to recognize the obvious fallacy of some of your decisions.
Best of luck in your therapy sessions.

Dudley1:

I look forward to your being prompt for your appointment!

:)

Face it, people, Hillary's tears did not cause her to win NH, as discussed on the networks last night. The NH people are more educated and of a different economic background. It is the lesser of two evils. Hillary, a White woman, or Obama, a Black man?

What part of Black don't people want to address?
That issue is shoved under the rug and seldom mentioned. It is a huge issue with the people I know, whether Democrat or Republican.

Truthfully, I would vote for Hillary before I'd see Obama in office.

As a Republican, the pickins' are slim. Real pathetic group of GOP candidates.

Is that so hard to understand?
Posted by DanS. at January 9, 2008 11:36 AM

DanS- Yes it is hard to understand. I guess I am not too bright, too drunk, or too stoned.

Follow me please. I understand that you fell in love with a girl who smelled like soap. I do not understand what your take is on the Jay Grodner thing. I asked you what your take was.

You do not have to tell me. Its just that you are a former marine and a current anti-war democrat. you have dogs on both sides of this fight.

Dudley1, I think you've done an excellent job at summarizing the state of politics in the US today. I couldn't agree more. It's sad that we are reduced to picking from the candidates we are given.

Dudley1 for President!

Dudley/Grouchy 2008. Sorta has a nice ring to it.

patrick:

Grodner is an idiot; plain, pure & simple. I can also respect a Marine who demonstrates 'fire-discipline' by sizing up the situation and evaluating it as what it is and acting accordingly.

Why give Grodner even the time of day?

Thanks DanS.

I guess by giving grodner the time of day, you mean why expend any energy on him or shining any light on him. the answer is because his behavior is abhorant and he should pay an enormous social and emotional penalty for it. It demonstrates to likeminded wingbats that this may not be an attractive path to walk down.

Steve & Paul......

Thanks for your kind words but as for a slate of candidacy......Denny gets top billing in my book as first he is far more astute then I & its his website.

Anyway I am off to the church to light a candle for DanS, then to the Tavernacle....... for refreshments & political rhetoric.

DanS - a pleasure to get a straight answer from someone on the other side of the divide. Don't go into politics - that's not how they operate!

Holy Cow, After reading DanS response above, it's obvious he's a hippie. Who'd have thought it? Sarcasm off. Explains a lot. But Khumbaya and heart felt emotions will get this country absolutely no where. It's smarts, intelligence, conviction and common sense that guides this ship that is our country, and hippies lack them all.

DanS. I'm glad that you are here, so that you have a way to vent. I'm also hoping that you listen to the people who write here. People are respectful toward you even though you are goofy sometimes-I'm glad that you found peace love and whatever in your life. I've done the same, and guess what? I'm a heartless conservative! I run a biz and employ others-I'm a capitalist pig. OINK.
I have freinds who have become American Citizens who would spit on you for your comments here.
Your spacey idealism of geo-political issues is not based upon love and Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream-it's naive and silly. The Democrats that you support say 'Peace not War' and 'Love not Hate'.
Tell you what buddy, the opposite of Love is not Hate, it's Apathy. The opposite of War is not Peace, it is Slavery. The opposite of Communism is Capitalism---Do the math? Vote for Hillary if you wanna, but while you are out doing so make sure to pick up an econo pack of brown shirts?

LisaKay:

of COURSE I listen! Why do you think so much of what I've been conflicted about inside for so many years is suddenly bubbling up to the surface?

For the record, I nor anyone in this household, is voting for Hill. For the record, Mrs. DanS is the hippy in this household, not me. Which is why most of my commentary seems so loopy-goofy. Ultra-Right married to Ultra-Left and living under the same roof for some 28 years now can do that.

For the record, the following phrase can sum up my entire philosophy: "A Place for Everything & Everything In It's Place". I'd appreciate it if you could deconstruct that for me.

Regards!

Cheers to You DanS! So you never lose your keys? Yay at you!
Come back to the dark side swee pea-we have cookies...

Dans.....

Sorry pal, but you are the one who said you were proud of the three dolts not us....the fact you are not going to vote for Hillary earns you an "Atta Boy"...you want "Scrambled Eggs" on it like Douglas Mac Arthur`s hat, Vote Republican or for a genuine "Moderate Democrat" if the leap to Sanity is to much for one jump. Lots of luck finding a Moderate Democrat though.

No one really wants to deconstruct your Philosophy....just make it sensible & in a fashion one can understand. "A place for everything & everything in its place is great", look in my toolbox or on my desk & that is what you will see.

Another Philosophy to consider...."A thought for everything & every thought sensible" You might make it back to the Conservative point of view yet Dan!

Dudley1:

You mis-quoted me! Go cut/paste here where I said what you attribute to me.

You are not being FAIR!

Dans Frontman for Socialist Sally....

The second post on this thread by "Thatjerryguy" asked the question ...I hope the left is proud of the three dolts they have running for President.
The third post on this thread from DanS answered with"YES WE ARE"
I guess unless there is another DanS you do not have much of a memory.I stand by my comments.

wow so much anger on here .well i thought it was just me .Well here goes ,Im so sick of hearing the lies about Hillary and and cnn and cbs needs to be boycotted for printing their lies.oh and this tradior Obama hes a lyer he speaks of nothing but bla bla bla.he will sell America out .the only dream he has is making a fool out of America.if Hillary loses John McCAIN WILL WIN .Go Hillary .oh and boycott Oprah she a lying bigot as well shes a lesbo.Wake up America