I wonder if he is allowed to have a Bible? I know you are not allowed to send them in care packages.

If I become bitter enough, may I have one of those?

Isn't that what the beast uses for duck hunting?

Fuckin A. Praise the USA and pass the ammunition, brother.

*sigh*

I love gun porn.

I'm thinking the guy on the other end of this shot is going to be "clinging" to his religion anytime now.

Reach out, reach out and touch someone. :)

I'm bitter that I don't have one of those. If I had one I could change a lot of things.
Can I hope for a Barrett?

Bringin the pain baby...

Hey. This is my first time commenting on something but I just thought I'd share that that picture is the center theme for an art project I have to do for a class.

By far this is my favorite motivational poster I have ever seen in my life! That would look great posted above my desk at work, but the boss is too much of a pussy to appreciate it, much less allow it.

red collar-
I agree. Gun porn rules!

Go gun porn! Let us not worry about our troops who had to kill in cold blood under Dubya's watch. Hey, it was all for the greater good right? They will get the best therapy ever at Walter Reed. WW2 was won under 5 yrs. WTF?

Teresa (TDO) - And how many Americans died in WWII? And how long did we have to occupy Germany and Japan? What? We're still there?

Troops killing in cold blood. You really do support the troops don't you. Have you told your son that he's a cold blooded killer yet?

We're all still waiting for you to make one intelligent comment. Just one. Instead, you just keep displaying your colossal stupidity. I hope your son never stumbles across this blog so he doesn't find out what a barking moonbat his mother is.

I see Teresa is off her meds again. Does she EVER grow tired of showing her complete and utter stupidity? Please, can someone just slap the shit out of her for me?

(TDO)-
You have become a major bore, almost as much as Sally was, but not quite. Keep working on it girl! You'll get there...

Let us not worry about our troops who had to kill in cold blood under Dubya's watch.

Did I just read that? WTF?

(TDO) + BDS = COMPLETE INSANITY!

(TDO)-
Are you by chance blowin' Murtha? Maybe he's blowin' you? WTF? You've completely lost it...

Teresa (TDO) bitching about me bringing up her son in 5, 4, 3 ....

Teresa - get laid...It will help you get rid of some of that pent-up frustation you take out on the world.

Hey Chill folks,

A lot of GI's have killed and been killed to
preserve the right of some to say that they should not have killed and been killed to preserve my right to say, they should not have
killed and been killed to preserve my right to
say they should not have killed and been killed
to preserve my right to say they should not have been,,,,,,,,;

I mean why? Like it's in the Constitution. I have the ACLU to protect my rights. What more do I need?

Pete

I was bitter yesterday, wish I would have had one of those to help me through it.

I've just finished 11 days of "Caucus 2008" and Boy, do we have a strategy for YOU! :)

Suffice here to say you are about to realize your fondest dreams!

Denny will have to create a new thread if you want the particulars, but even if he doesn't, you'll soon be seeing; I'm fairly bursting to share it with you but I find no acceptable post-thread here that allows me to post without being off-topic.

It's big news.

(TDO)-
Your insanity is presented more and more everytime you post your drivel.

"Our troops who had to kill in cold blood under Dubya's watch."????

You are fucking insane lady! Not only are you shitting on our Armed Forces fighting the fight, you are shitting on the real people who were slaughtered in cold blood. Asshole!

GFY!

BTW-
Here's to the men and women in the Armed Forces fighting for our freedoms with pride! Most of us appreciate it. Pay no attention to (TDO) and her psycho-babble bullshit! We love you guys!

Oh NOOOOOO!!! DanS is gonna 'splode!!!! ;)

Theesa, TDO. We won Iraq in two monthts, fighting would be over now but the mooslims decided that is where they were going to make their stand against the US. We have not had any casualities from mooslim terrorism in this country since 9/1/01. Would you rather the battle be here or over there?

Teresa the dumb one, would you mind if I change your call sign to Teresa the stupid one since you are getting less intelligent rather than staying the same. Fuck it, I don't care if you like it. Let's see, 5 years in World War 2. Hmmm, could be because the US of A came to the rescue of the other countries that weren't getting it done. Could have been because we dropped two M'fing bombs that killed quite a few in cold blood (wouldn't you say). Seems to be that libtards such as yourself have this country so friggin worried about political correctness and how other countries see us (who the hell cares what they think) that we don't do what need to be done, that be turn the entire region into glass. But don't you worry you moron, sorry, stupid one, brave people like your son and his friends will be sure to protect the liberties that allow you to spew your BDS for the rest of us to see.

Oh yeah, DanS and Teresa the stupid one, hows your nerves knowing there's going to be another Republican in the WH next year. Seems to be the Dims/libs/socialists are imploding as we speak, they are defecting to the McCain ticket and as I have said before, the country isn't ready to elect a woman or a black man. You guys both need to up the meds because your lives are about to get a helluva lot worse.

Theresa The Idiot: I guess you are not a student of history. Poland was invaded in 1939, but there was fighting in Spain even before that, so that just refutes the hell out of you. And WW2 would have lasted much longer and we would have lost a lot more guys (yeah, that's right, guys) if Harry hadn't dropped the Big One.

You're a real dumbshit.

DanS, you could go off topic in an open thread.

Theresa, in WW2 we did not attempt to limit civilian casualties. Think Dresden, or Tokyo, we fire bombed both. We nuked Japanese cities without giving it a whole lot of thought as well. I'm all for unlimited warfare. We should start with about four Iranian cities, then pick off a couple in Syria.
After 9-11-01 we should have dropped one nuke for every hijacker in their home country, and preferably their home town. That would have gotten the attention of the islamofascists.
We should tell the Palistidiots to end the violence or we will drop MOABs on their shitty strip of land. can you say the Golan Crater? How about the Gaza impact area? The Navy needs a new gunnery range now that the Puerto Ricans are bitching.

Teresa,

I take serious exception to the comment about troops killing in cold blood. You can argue about the justification for an invasion into Iraq all you want, Teresa, but don't give me that cold blooded killer deal. Troops EXECUTE policy, we do not MAKE policy. The moral value of a decision to go into war will be talked about for years. But, if the President says so, and Congress endorses you simply grab your A bag and B bag and go.

90 plus percent of people who make strong statements like that don't have first hand knowledge of what goes on. There are a lot of assumptions based on false or limited information.

Here is a list:

1. Assumption: We need to get out of there and just let the militia groups fight it out if we do they will sort it out for themselves.
Fact: Militia groups rarely, if ever, square off in a street fight or a gun battle. Militia is a misnomer, although loosely organized with a hierarch of command, they are more gangs than anything. THey don't fight people in the open, rather they stalk people in the middle of the night, kidnapping, murdering, and raping individuals who cooperate with coalition forces. If they can't get the individual they will go to his family. "Sectarian violence" is almost never Shi'ite and Sunni shooting it out like the O.K. Corral.

2. Assumption: Al Sadr commands a huge force of shi'ite fighters. (The Mahdi Army).
Fact: Al Sadr is a windbag who really doesn't have total control. The Mahdi Army is splintered into independent guys who don't go through Sadr City for command and control. Many of these groups fight one another.

3. Assumption: The United States is recklessly enlisting the aid of former Sunni "insurgents".
Fact: The united States is getting a better knowledge of what is going on, insurgent movement and trends from the Sunnis. The Sunnis are not fighting to regain control, they are fighting to stay alive. The fact remains that if we leave, the sheer number of Shi'ites trying to get retribution would be a problem, even though the Shi'ites are not united.

Unfortunately some service members have done less than honorable things over there, but you know what, the fact that you know about it means that we know how to police ourselves.

I am not belittling anyone who has family members that serve, but mere service or being related to someone who serves does not make you the authority to say such a thing. Another thing that people don't realize is that the coalition lives on FOBS and Camps which are in secure areas. Secure in the fact that we can keep the bad guys out, however, you can't stop mortar fire. I know a woman who has been harping to my mother about how "bad it is" over there and why she is angry and fearful for her sons life. Of course that is understandable but she thinks that her opinion of what goes on, and what "we"(meaning America) should do because her son serves. My mother reminded her that her level of concern was understandable, as was Mom's. Her son is a dental hygienist, I was a rifle platoon leader.

Bottom line, have a right to your opinion, but if you make outrageous statements like that you are going to get called out on it.

WW2 was won under 5 yrs. WTF?
Posted by Teresa at April 17, 2008 10:37 PM

What a great point, TDO.

So you are advocating that the US fight the war in Iraq he same way we fought WWII?

We can do wholescale invasions, killing everything in our path that is not an American?
We can firebomb entire cities to break the will of the people to fight?
We can execute out-of-uniform enemies on the spot?

In other words, will you FINALLY stop bitching and advocate measures that will let us win this war?

TDO, TSO Whatever......

Still dumber then a box of rocks.....

WW2 was won in less then 5 years......Well the President did not have the leftwing Nazis of either party fighting against him everyday & giving aid & comfort to the enemy. He also did not have the MainStream Media advancing a Nazi Yocialist agenda 24 hours a day . Maybe we should re-institute the draft& place 12,000,000 men under arms like we did in WW2.

Cold blooded killers under Dubya.... Yeah the Muslim fundamentalists who killed 3000 on 9/11 were not ,they were just mis-understood.

As you posted WTF? appropriate ...just when are you going to get your head out of your ass? I actually prayed for your sons safe return , I carried some of that heartache you felt when he was in harms way....I would never say or do anything to denigrate his service or any of the others who are serving or have served.

I do not like war, I wish it was not neccessary ....but it brought to us by our enemies , at least Dubya had the balls to do the job he was elected for. sometimes hard decisions are forced onto us but none the less Bush did what had to be done for the greater good of all of us.

You probably are thrilled that both Hillary & Obama have stated regardless of what our military command says ....they will start to retreat from Iraq. Maybe you can start making white surrender flags for the Democratic surrender monkeys, You must be a huge embarrassment for your son.

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Sometimes I wonder if Teresa posts this shit simply to stir up the bee hive. I mean she gets quite the reaction from our motley crew.

Paul asked why Bibles are not allowed in care packages. I told him I remembered something in the Soldier's Angels guidelines about being prohibited from sending religious material. However, I have either misinterpreted the guidelines or they have changed it. I could swear that was there at one time! You are not allowed to send anti-Muslim literature, but the Bible is hardly that as Muslims didn't even exist when it was being written! You are not allowed to send pork, alcohol, pornography, or anything in a glass container.

One time..just one time I would like to put some downrange with one of those. Gotta be a blast. But It would prolly resemble this.

kerrcarto-
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA! I never get tired of seing those sheetheads get knocked on their asses.

Actually, the .50 BMG isn't nearly that bad. A couple dudes at the range I frequent have 'em, and there's very little recoil. I'm still waiting to get the balls to ask them to let me put a couple downrange, but I don't know 'em that well. That's almost like asking another man to use his wife for a while. Not something to take lightly, especially when they're armed...

When my brother came back from WW11, he seldom spoke about the war. But I was nearly 14 and I had cried for 5 years waiting for him to return. The war had been so far away. We didn't get much informations in those days. I wanted to know what had happened, and how, and where, and when. I asked him very direct questions about the battles and the enemies. Maybe I was cruel but he was much older and always had patience with me. He was a very gentle man, never angry, never annoyed. I couldn't see him as a soldier with a gun.

Once I asked him, "Did you have to kill the other soldiers?" He said briefly, "Yes!" I continued, "It must have been hard." He replied, "It wasn't hard. It was my job. I was trained to do it. I also was trained to be ready to die.It's not a game.It wasn't fun. We didn't want to win to get a first prize. We had to win so that our families would be safe at home. Hitler was very dangerous. That's why we had to kill his soldiers and we were all prepared to die."

I never asked him many questions after that. All my life, I thanked everyone who fought in that war. And I pray for the brave soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's not a game. It's not fun. They have to kill, or be killed.They are there to keep a great part of the world safe. The enemy is very dangerous.

Very interesting Claudia. I have an Uncle who served in Vietnam. He's probably somewhere in his early 60's right now and still lives up to the moniker I gave him years ago as my crazy uncle. Should have been called "bat shit crazy" for all the shenanigans he's pulled since I've known him. He acts like he's 20 instead of 60 something. Anyway, I have asked him so many times about his experiences in the war, but he just doesn't want to talk about them. I think some of those vets just got so traumatized by what occured over there, and then when they got back over here, that they have just pushed the memories far back and keep them there. I saw him last about a year ago. It was the first time I had seen him in close to 20 years. He was down from up state New York, so I took him out, got him shit faced, and thought for sure I could get him to open up. Nope, not happening. I imagine only a soldier can know and explain the experience of their warfare ordeals. Some don't mind talking about it (perhaps it's therapeutic) and other's prefer to keep it inside.

Teresa, TVSO:

"WW2 was won under 5 yrs."

Since we're comparing WWII and Iraq lets get a few more figures in there than just length of the war.

the U.S.'s average GDP for the war years 1941-1945 was about $150 billion dollars.

The U.S.'s average annual military budget for the war years was about $55 billion dollars.

The total number of American soldiers enlisted during the wary years was a little over 13 million.

the U.S.'s population as of the 1940 census was about 135 million.

The average cost of WWII through the war years was about 1/3 of GDP and we had about 1/10 of our population in uniform to fight that war.

all that's available through Google.

Now we fast forward to the 21st century and the Iraq War stage two.

the American GDP for 2006 was about $13,600 billion dollars.

The American population in 2006 was about 300 million.

The direct costs, to date, of the Iraq War Stage two has been estimated at $600 Billion dollars or about $120 billion dollars a year for the 5 years we've been fighting, this time.

America has sent about 155,000 members of its uniformed military to Iraq.

To fight the 21st century War in Iraq the U.S. is spending less than %1 of its Gross Domestic Product with about .05% of its population directly serving as members of the uniformed military.

If you want to ramp those last two numbers up to the WWII levels of 30% of GDP for Military spending and 10% of the population in uniform I'm sure we could finish the job in Iraq by the End of Bush's second term.

Would that make you happy?

otpu

kerrcarto - that made my day.

DanS - So now you're not gonna post off topic comments? Holy crap! When did this start?

Theresa TDO,

FYI, WW II was not "won in less than 5 years".
From 9/1/39 to 8/14/45 (Japanese capitulation) is 5 years & 11.5 months. To the formal surrender on 9/2/45 is exactly 6 years. Granted,the USA was an active participant for a shorter period, about 45 months officially, but somewhat longer if we include the "short-of-war" combat in the Atlantic prior to Pearl Harbor. Let's also remember that the Soviet Union was an ally of Nazi Germany for the first 22 months of WWII, almost a third of its duration.

Ray -

It's much, much harder to be a Vietnam War veteran. The WW2 soldiers had a lot of support during the war and were treated as heroes when they came back. The Vietnam War was a very different type of war, very difficult. The American soldiers seldom saw the enemies face-to-face. One ambush after another...They also felt very isolated because the people at home did not support the war. When they came back, they were not welcomed as heroes. It took years for USA to understand them and appreciate their sacrifices and bravery. To add insult to injury, the draft-dodgers, who escaped to my country, were unconditionally forgiven by Carter(the NON-president) and allowed to return home not branded as what they were: cowards and traitors. No wonder your uncle doesn't wish to speak about his war-experiences.

Rurik -

Many Americans seem to ignore that, although USA soldiers did not participate actively in WW2 right from the beginning, President Roosevelt was deeply involved in the war in 1939, providing huge sums of money, modern equipment and military expertise. England had slept and wasn't ready. It might have fallen nearly immediately if Churchill (who had predicted the war for years) had not called Roosevelt for help as soon as he became Prime Minister. Roosevelt was a strong ally and also a great moral help to Churchill.

Wow! I didn't mean to get all you repukes pantyhose in an up roar. I just want you to acknowledge the fact that we American's have not been very supportive of our veterans. Our troops are not getting the mental health counseling that they need and deserve. Too many have sustained TBI from the IED hits. And they get sent to Walter Reed for rehab. Our Vets deserve much better.

Teresa who are you trying to kid. You don't give a flying fuck about vets and you damned well know it. It's the thin little shield you hide behind so you can claim you're something you're not. It's like that lame claim about supporting the troops but not the war. Bet you support the chairman of Exxon but hate his company too.

(TIO)-
You're right. Our warriors deserve nothing but the best. You and your tards will never accept that. As far as I have seen, you are the only one crapping on the "troops". You use 'Dubya' as a crutch and you use your son as an excuse to be a comeplete dipshit barking dumbass statements as you see fit. Simpleton.

TDO the Omaha Oddball......

I do not know about our veterans having received as much mental health counseling as they require......but You should check into what is available at a VA hospital near you, as you could benefit from a session or two yourself.

I`ll bet your neighbors really think you to be quite an idiot & the center of argument in the immediate neighborhood.

TDO read what DKelsmith wrote to you! While you're at it, hows about you tell us how to get in touch with your son so that we can thank him for his service? I'm sure he has a myspace right? Don't worry, none of us Repukes would refer to him as a dumb baby killer like you do. Unlike you, we have brains that think in a logical fashion and warm blood actually flows through our veins.