What's that he's shooting? Some spring loaded contraption?

When my son was that age I took him to an indoor range and let him fire an array of weapons.

Best trick: I loaded my Ruger .357 with 38 rds for the first six. He loved it.
Then I loaded it with 5 38s and the 6th was a 357 load.

You should have seen his reaction when he hit that last round. He thought the gun exploded.

It was funny except it ripped the skin off the side of his thumb knuckle.

At least that led to a lesson in proper gun holding/handling.

It puts a big smile on my face to see such a young lad learning about firearms and firearm safety. Chaulk up another future conservative. I love it!

It's not that there are too many guns,
it's that there isn't enough gun safty
taught.

My Dad put a 22 in my hands at six.
My Elder son had to wait for Navy training.
But my youngest started in Cub Scouts.

Now with the BSA kicked out of the schools
and off all public property in LA, a kid
dosn't have a lot of options. If he dosn't have
intelegent parents his only option is his
local social club.

There he can learn trick shooting, like
from moving cars.

Pete

A bud of mine brought his 12-yr-old boy by once & we went & had a most enjoyable hour, hour & a half letting that kid shoot my Uzi...I don't think the kid woulda had a bigger grin on his face if we'd bought him a Hooker..He turned a Coke can into Swiss cheese, took it w/him & showed all his friends...But the kid didn't enjoy it anymore than I did, letting him shoot it. Made my old cold heart warm, it did !

Cooooool! Although I have much better aim with a rifle. *grin*

My cockles are toasty too. Great to see young folks taking up the sport.

However, I'd be derelict in my duties as a BHNP if I didn't point out that the young feller and the folks in the associated videos need some tutoring in the basics of firearms safety.

He's shooting the Ruger MKII .22 it sounds funky because there are cinder block walls on both sides. and the camera I shot it with..well let's just say it ain't Hollywood material.

He also enjoy's killing turtles in the river behing my parent's house with the .222 rifle. I have yet to let him shoot the 6.5mm carcano. But he like to shit himself when I blew a turtle to pieces with it. It sparked his interest though. Maybe this weekend!

Cool kid. Another outstanding American in the making. Nice work, kerrcarto. I especially appreciate his gun safety techniques.

You're eqwipping your son to be a killer. The only safe way to handle a gun is to not handle one at all!

Nice to see the young fellow enjoying himself safely with firearms. I truly beleive that firearms handling and shooting sports should be mandatory in grade shool and high school.

I am a bit saddened to see you have this young one killing turtles, apparently for the fun of it. I have nothing against killing turtles even though I keep them as pets; that is so long as they are used for food or another practical purpose more than just target practice. Wasting a life for the sake of target practice is absolutely wrong no matter how cool you think it is. Of course, as I said if you are using the turtles for food then great, but I tend to doubt it since you said you blew it to pieces. Its stuff like that that winds up getting the sentiment turned against us as shooters and hunters.

All the best,
Glenn B

Our resident liberal has spoken, Too bad she didn't put any thought into it.
Guns have kept America safe for 232 years against many would be oppressors.
If not for Guns, TDO would not be allowed her opinion, and most likely would be wearing a burka.

Teresa (TDO) - Started hitting the vodka a little earlier than usual tonight aren't ya?

Jeremy - A burkha would prolly be an improvement.

Glenn, the only reason I let him shoot Turtles is because they have taken over the rivers here. The fishing that was once fantastic here has gone to shit. The turtles eat all the fish eggs and fry.

That is why I allow him be a cold blooded killer for W. We are saving the fish!

Oh yeah. TDO kiss it. I raise my child as I see fit, not the way the all blessed gov't or some touchy feely libtard tells me too.

Thank you drive through.

I don't usually comment in this sort of posts because I know so little about firearms.But does Teresa (TDO) really exist? Her statement is the most ridiculous statement I have ever read in my whole life. The older I get, the more in danger I feel because I would be totally helpless if I had to defend myself. I hope that if I call for help, whoever comes will know how to handle a gun. I'm not paranoid but it's not always a nice world out there. It's not even safe in my own home.

eqwipping..

eqwipping...

alrighty then... you know we couldn't make this stuff up. we really couldn't.

the turtles are a big problem here in Texas. especially in neighborhood lakes and ponds. they eat every damn thing they can.

Claudia, it's never too late to learn.
I'm eqwipped.

Claudia - I'm sad to say that Teresa (TDO) is a real person. I'm also sad to say that she is a registered nurse who is responsible for the care of actual people. Scary isn't it?

If any of youse ever came face to face w/a bigazz Snapping Turtle, trust me, the biggest gun you can buy is barely adequate... An' don't give me no backtalk about turtles being slow, ponderous things..Where you are likely to enconter a Snapper HE WILL have the advantage, trust me. The old timers 'round here say they'll bite & won't let go til it thunders...I don't particularly wanna test that superstition... We ran the rear tire of a 3010 John Deere tractor up on the back of one once, it just kinda mashed him down in the mud a little, & REALLY monumentally pissed him off...

Denny - In my career, I met a few dumb registered nurses but she gets the prize. I hope she doesn't emigrate. Keep her, please...

Teresa,

How about a compromise. Libs like the idea of a
"Partial Birth Abortion". How about a "Partial
Gun Abolition"?

Dems, Libs, Progresive Socialists, Socialists and
Communists cannot own or bear arms. Unless in the unlikely event that they are in the military
or police force.

This would remove a lot of guns from private ownership.

We don't trust Dems and the like with our tax dollars, so why should we trust you with guns.

Compromise, it's what a representitive democracy
was ment to be.

Pete

vicki - Good for you! At home, I'm "eqwipped" with my son's baseball bat but I'm not even sure I could swing it. We're still allowed to have a registered gun in Canada. I doubt they would let me have one because of poor vision.

Claudia - "because of poor vision" - In that case you'll be needing a shotgun :P

Hey Den: How many guns do you own?

Y'all and your guns...

What the fuck else is it but an expression of "Keep The Fuck Away From Me!"?

How is that different from your average Palestinian?

"Keep The Fuck Away From Me" is but an indication that "the World revolves 'round ME"!

That's cool, but you have never been face-to-face with an actionable circumstance such as you posit; ... and are thus living in a fantasy-reality. And raising up your Children in a fantasy-reality.

How is this different from what any average Palestinian or Iraqi hopes to do?

Recall the gist of your commentary:
"The World Revolves 'Round ME!"

"How is that different from your average Palestinian"

DanS, you're senility, drug induced psychosis, or just plain lack of intellect is showing. The posters here use guns as defensive weapons to protect themselves. The group you lamely tried to compare them to uses it to 1) instill terror 2) achieve a goal that allows them to rule over the ones they use said guns on and 2) act as an offensive entity.

There's the difference. If you can't see it, there's an ambulance with a white coat in it waiting outside your door. Please go peacefully. For Chrissakes you scare the hell out of me with you numbskull comments.

I'm of course with Teresa on this one. A nurse who wants to preserve life and who is afraid to see a young boy taught to kill? Yeah Denny, really scary !!

Hope you're okay to live in one of the most violent society in the world.

I am really tired of all the assholes who have the fucking nerve to assign their bullshit opinion and point of view as to my rights as guaranteed under The Constitution of the United States of America.

Our rights were written by men who were a damn smarter than anyone alive today.

It is what it is, not what all these opinionated assholes wants it to be.

My right to bear arms is not to:

1. defend myself
2. Go hunting
3. practice sharp shooting
4. Etc.

or whatever other line of crap fed to us by people who don't get it.

I have a right to bear arms because the 2nd amendment says so. If you don't fucking like it, change it. But in the meantime, shut the fuck up.

If you look at the time this amendment was introduced (all amendments were instituted by the STATES for concern that the Federal gummint would be too powerful - what an assumption), we had just fought a war of independence with militias, who were average Americans.

Given that the states imposed the amendments to limit the Fed gummint's powers, and, we had just fought a war by average Americans against tyranny and oppression, and The Constitution starts off by talking about the "PEOPLES" Inalienable Rights including the changing of the gummint from time to time if they do not agree with it, and the Founding Fathers were true revolutionaries, what might be the reason therefore to "allow" the PEOPLE to have the right to bear arms?

To fight, shoot, kill and defend themselves against their OPPRESSORS. Any and all oppressors.

So we never have a gummint like Nazi Germany, or the Soviet Union or any other tin pot dictatorial asshole who gains control of the military.

What are the first things a dictator does when he gains/steals power. Control the news outlets (1st Amenedment) and confiscates all guns (2nd). Gee, what a fucking coincidence.

Bottom line: If the Constitution were interpreted the way it was intended "originally," every gun law in this country would be abolished.

The would "impinged" is pretty clear.

We might just see a very important Supreme Court ruling in the next few months regarding the D.C. gun ban.

Just hope they don't wimp out.

Oh, and btw, the "war between the states" had little to do with slavery. That was just a bullshit rallying point for the north.

It was about Federal control vs. states rights and Abe's obsession with not wanting to see the Union split. It was about the threaten abolishment of the Constitution and what it created.

Personally, the south was constantly getting screwed by the north, wasn't allowed to function as they wished, etc. At which time a so-called rebellion took place and Abe sent in Federal troops to squash the state "rebels." First time the Feds forcibly imposed upon a states rights.

Don't think that was the true reason? Just look at the amendments that were incoporated into the constitution after the war. Each gave exceptionally more power to the Federal gummint.

Prosper, Kerrcarto doesn't live in the middle east or Africa. he lives in the United States.
I have yet to see news casts of streets overflowing with violent people night after night in city after city. Sure, we've had problems after the Rodney King ordeal, but thosewere relatively minor compared to what France has endured at the hands of Muslim thuggery.
Maybe if you all were armed, things would be diffrent.
BTW, check this out. Now who has the violent society?

Prosper, as usual your French illogic is showing.

"I'm of course with Teresa on this one. A nurse who wants to preserve life and who is afraid to see a young boy taught to kill?"

One has nothing to do with the other. I am a veterinarian. I hunt and fish. See any problem with that? By the way, soldiers aren't "taught to kill". They are taught to defend. If defending means killing, then so be it. One is a result of the other. It is pacifists like you that have caused the problems we have in the world today. If we would beat down the uprisings in this world more often than we do right now, there'd be a lot less of them. How's your Muslim training classes coming along? You still feel comfortable with your Catholic daughter growing up in French society the way it is now? I see Bridget Bardot was tried for insulting your fellow citizens. You guys are in for a shit storm.

DanS - I own two guns: An S&W 640 and a German Mauser. I still need a shotgun.

Prosper - Kerrcarto's son is being taught to defend himself. In about 20 years you're gonna need a gun to protect yourself from your growing Moo-slime population. How's the car burning going?

Our society is violent because of liberal Dimocrat policies that have caused the breakup of the black family unit. Couple that with our insane War on Drugs (for which I blame both parties)and you get violence, which is mostly in our inner cities.

Willie - You are confusing the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence in parts of your comment.

"talking about the "PEOPLES" Inalienable Rights including the changing of the gummint from time to time if they do not agree with it,"

That was in the Declaration of Independence.

Other than that, I agree with your comment.

It does sound funky, echo,echo, echo.

Hey Teresa,
About 40 years ago some teenage girls asked me about my guns. One of them said that guns were bad, nobody should ever have a gun or shot someone.

My answer to her was simple and direct, "If I ever see you about to be raped, I'll ask if you've changed your opinion before I shot, OK?"

The same sort of stupidity is on college campuses, because the Boards of Regents think it is better to "fee; safe" and die defenselessly than to risk a student or faculty member actual stopping some madman/terrorist.

When you hear the gunfire coming from your Eng. Lit class room, either:
1, Get out your cellphone and wait for a text message to tell you to Kiss your ass goodbye. OR
2. Get out your gun and make the mad killer kiss ass goodbye without a text message from the school emergency broadcast system.

If there is some misguided religious person who thinks it is wrong to kill in self-defense, keep it in mind, that if you don't defend yourself and others, you are assisting in a murder and maybe suicide. God help those who help themselves means He wants you to have a gun and not just pray under a desk.

Prosper, of all your comments here at GOC, yours above is the stupidest. You remind me yet again of how much disdain I have for you. You are a complete ass and a stinky Frog. I feel sorry for your children because they are going to end up as total cowards, looking for entitlements instead of personal success, probably praying to Allah, and just general human scum like the rest of you Frogs. Prosper, you suck.

Ray:

You don't (can't?) read too well, right?

Thank you for taking my inventory for me.

Let's hear more of your SOLUTIONS rather than your sniping.

What? You have no solutions? You can't (won't)read?

Imagine that!

Proper/DanS/TDO In the US we have laws on the books that are there to keep the loonies from getting a gun. I think about the Va tech thing. fact is they don't work. If anyone wants a gun, they can get one. remeber that church thing in Colorado? guy shoots and kills 3 people on the way in to the sanctuary, starts shooting inside, and a citizen with a gun shoots him and ends the mess. without her who knows how many more would have died?

I like going to lunch at restaurants where people are armed. In Texas it is not hard to find those places. I am not armed. I have 2 guns. A Remington 870 shotgun with #1 buckshot and my dad's old .22 service revolver. I don't have a permit for carrying the .22 so I don't.

Not only restaurants, but schools should be armed. In Canada, since 1975, 7 schools massacres (the latest in 2007) have sadly happened where 10 to 16 students were killed before a lone, deranged gunman either killed himself or was shot by a Law Officer. I believe strongly that every school principal should have a gun and know how to use it. Maybe some teachers too. Our young people are easy targets in a school environment.

See Vikipedia: Schools massacres.

It happens everywhere in the world. It is noted that, in many of the States where it happened in USA, people were not allowed to own guns and were totally defenseless in such an attack.

Where do you think those killers bought their guns? In a departement store, with a Visa card? People like TDO, Prosper and DanS make me rabid.

Prosper -
Better get a gun.
Presently there are 5 millions Muslims in France. This is 8% of the French population. It's growing by the minute. There are terrorists among them. Brigitte Bardot has been fined 4 times, the last time for $23,760. She is also waiting judgement on jail time. She just said very loud, " The Muslim community is destroying our country and imposing his acts."

Better teach your children that they are not free to say what they think in their own country.

It's true that Brigitte Bardot is, above all, an animal rights activist. She doesn't like the cruel way the Muslims kill the cattles in their ritualistic religion. She wrote to Sarkozy about it. That's why she is in trouble with the law. She is a racist because she wants to protect cattle!!!! She came to Canada to protect our poor baby seals. She layed down on the ice to stop seals hunters. She wrote to our Prime Minister. We didn't fine her. We had a bit of a laugh. We got her autograph.

What's wrong with France??? With or without a gun, you're not safe with Muslims-terrorists.

It's best that kids aren't afraid of weapons and learn how to handle them correctly, rather than learning about guns from some gangsta rap video on TV.

Ha ha! Prosper and TDO made a love connection. Maybe he can pull that ditzy bitch out of starbucks long enough to see how a socialist lives.

VetFrom:

I like the sound of "Ditzy-Bitch"

It's got a certain-ring to it regardless of whom it applies.

I'll sign-off and go approach the Missus with "Yo! Ditzy!"

I thank you for the Spark!

vicki-
AMEN!

vetfromhell-
Invoice is in the mail. One keyboard soaked...

Teresa(TIS), the INSANE one-
You're eqwipping your son to be a killer. The only safe way to handle a gun is to not handle one at all!

That has to be the most ignorant comment I have ever read here.

What kerrcarto is doing is teaching his boy about firearms and firearm safety. He's teaching his boy that guns are not "toys". He's teaching his boy about reality. Something you obviously know nothing about.

No matter how much you despise guns, they are here to stay. Accept it, or continue to stick your head in the sand. I really don't give a fuck, but don't post ignorant statements like the one you did above.

It affirms your complete ignorance and it exposes your libtard mind...

that slap sound you all just heard is the hippie chicks reaction to the DanS greeting.

To Vet and all the rest. My son just came back from Dubya's war Alive! I know that he will not be the same person for all that he has seen. But I am overjoyed that he is back after 6 IED hits to his humvee. But nothing has changed for all his and his battle buddies efforts. That just makes me sick.

(TIO)-
God Bless your son and his brothers in arms.

I find it sad that you cling to the short-bus and are as narrow-minded as you are. Lemme take that back. You aren't narrow-minded, you are simple-minded. A simple-minded liberal puppett...

Who's pullin' your strings this time?

I am truly glad your son is home safe. That is good news.

Teresa TDO
You son's return is an answer to my Prayers

Yes he was in my prayers...now Please don't let him see what a negative person you can be...see Pygmalion Effect or Principle...My Friends son saw our love and respect both for Him and for what he did and all is well...so I hope you son feels the same from you...let him read GOC for a few weeks and he will heal right up!!!!!

Ray wrote "By the way, soldiers aren't "taught to kill". They are taught to defend."

this sissy's comment just show one thing : you never was a military.

Paul, don't feel sorry for my children, the 3 of them are very nice and polite. What about yours?

TDO:

Be ready and accept as a given what I call the "Marlboro Marine" effect.

There's some out here who understand.

Don't Let The BasTurds get you down in ANY way!
For those who FIGHT for it, Freedom has a taste the Protected will never know.

Your Veteran is HOME; Let us rejoice. It's happened on this Home-Front 4 times now.

Let them ALL vent a spleen that knows not what you now know. It is for them the hour that has not yet come. You can be the CRAZIEST-MOM That Ever Was!

Your Veteran is HOME. Your Child in the misbegotten War.

They have no idea; Forgive them.

Jermey, you picked numbers from Interpol.

In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries,or in any political, military, religious, or racial crimes
(source wikipedia)

several countries, very surprising that european crimes involving more than one country are more numerous than those of your island !!

ingenuousness or bad faith ?

Is that what you're calling bias ?

I don't know what it worth, I found this numbers :
even by inhabitant, you got the first rank !

Might I mention:

Arm-Chair Generals & Admirals are a dime-a-dozen.

Not a one of them ever faced something more than what Viagra could handle.

TDO: Your boy done Good. He came home alive & well. I thank you. I thank him.

I grew up in New Yawk.

All my life I thought there was something wrong with me because I always got in trouble because I didn't fit in with the system.

That system happens to be liberalism. It truly caused me to question my sanity.

Fortunately, I got out at 18, as soon as I could, but went to Massachusettes which is worse (BU).

When I moved to Florida I couldn't believe the freedoms they had compared to NY and Mass. I was threatened by a guy with a gun, BUT, he didn't actually carry it out so the cops could do nothing.

The cops answer: go buy a gun and protect yourself. So I did.

First time I went to a gun range, I was shooting that "cheap" saturday night special, when a guy came up to me, also a cop, and scolded me for owning and shooting a cheap, dangerous piece of shit.

He recommended I go to a gun shop, trade it in and get a name brand gun. Bought a Ruger .357.

Anyway, my point is about liberalism and brainwashing.

The whole family came over to dinner one night and when I showed them the gun, my sister literally freaked out, starting shaking and ran out of the room yelling. She also grew up in NY.

That is why you will never see freedom of gun ownership in "liberal" areas of the country and why they constantly push to confiscate guns.

Imagine if you tried to shut down the media and/or speech outlets for "free speech" in this country? The libs would be up in arms (that doesn't mean they'd pick up guns, it means they'd raise their arms over their heads and shake them).

So, why is it not understood how offensive and unpatriotic it is when they try to ban our guns?

Yesterday I went to a gun shop because they advertised a "Federal Permit." I wanted to get one because I'm going on a cross states road trip (motorcycle) and did not want to be hassled about carrying.

Turns out there is not such a permit (I knew that). It comes down to states recognising each other's laws.

I was told that FL and GA "honor" each others concelaed weapon laws. Alabama is O.K., but South Carolina is a problem.

Heading to Miami Beach convention center.

They are having a combination Motorcycle show and Porno show. Shoulda had a gun show stuck in there as well.

Strange but have to check it out.

HAPPINESS IS A WARM GUN

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120856454897828049.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

AMEN BROTHER

Just had to share it,

Mark Steyn at his bst on God and Guns.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-america-guns-2021119-gun-world

Prosper -

I went to your "numbers" link. You should have read it all to the bottom. It says that the crime rate, as reported, is hardly accurate. It all depends on the willingness of the country to report crimes and to prosecute criminals. USA is number One for this. Some countries are very lax in reporting crimes. Many countries don't even consider rape as a crime!

Prosper-
Of course you agree with TDO. We would expect nothing less from you. You should take your own invetory before taking ours though. I don't see many cars burning around town in my neighborhood. How 'bout yours?

The next time you sit down to take a piss, ponder this...

Assholes come in threes.....

TDO....The Omaha Oddball posts her drivel again! By the way TDO ...You are very welcome for your Thank You for all the prayers we here gave for your Sons safety in Iraq & his safe return, I must have missed that post.

DanS ....You did not ask me but I will answer, I have more handguns then you have fingers & toes & as many rifles as your IQ, over 60 & less then 75. Shotguns are a bonus between 20 & 30.
Unlike you DanS while I thank TDO`s son for his service , I do not thank her ....she did not do anything but disparage our troops.
By the way .....if you read some of the past threads , you have many many many unanswered questions, just because you chose silence & refusal for answers or explanation does not mean we forgot.

Prosper.....The next time your illustrious Country is in trouble & asks for our help , we will send TDO & DanS sans weapons to assist you, hope that allows you to sleep much better.

Claudia, are you implying that european countries don't report crimes or don't consider rape as a crime?

If not, maybe could we compare those numbers, don't you think? What's your point?

Funny thing is Jeremy put some numbers on the table, I demonstrated they were not relevant. Period. Do you want (you or anybody else) to put other numbers on the table? no?

CD, it seems your crime rate is bigger than ours. So maybe some punk here in France are torching cars once in a while (and that's not considered as a crime), but if they were on your soil, I suppose they would murder or rape people...

The rate of incarceration in your country is the highest in the world, your crime rate is the highest in west (I strongly doubt we can trust chinese authorities on this subject). And you don't want to see what could be done to improve those numbers?

Prosper-
Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will improve those numbers? Show me that has worked anywhere? You can't because it hasn't.

I have many firearms myself, not quite the number dudley1 owns, but I own more than the number of toes on my feet. I don't rape or murder anyone. Just because someone owns a firearm or many firearms, it doesn't turn them into criminals. Look at what happened in Austraila. The crime rate went UP after the law abiding citizens turned in their weapons. The criminals aren't turning their's in because, well, they're criminals.

An armed law abiding citizen is a deterrant to try to rape, steal, and yes even torch cars. Gun control isn't about guns, it's about control. An unarmed society of law abiding citizens are nothing but subjects to the criminals who will always have guns.

kerrcarto is simply introducing his boy to firearm safety and handling, and the enjoyment of shooting at an early age. My Dad did the same with me, and I thank him for it to the day. For Teresa (The DUMB One) to say that kerrcarto is "eqwipping" his son to be a killer has to be the most idiotic comment I have ever read here. And you agree with her???

I'm glad your son is home TDO, try not to contaminate his heroism with your bullshit, left-wing rhetoric. And I mean that in a ditzy, starbucks way.

DansS, sorry so late responding to your ridiculous post (so what else is new) so what the Fuck are you asking? Solution, solution to what? And yeah, I read just fine, just don't interpret psycho real well when it's type on a comment site. Please explain you last post to me in sane English, and I'll try to respond without confusing you.

Actually, I am eqwipping my son to be a killer. Anyone that tries to harm me, his mother, sister or me will be dead unless they can run more than 560 fps. That is if I don't get to them first.

Prosper -

I don't want to compare anything. What do I know? I'm just telling you what I read, at the bottom of the page, you sent us too: the link "numbers" in your comment, dated April 20, 5.47 a.m.

Go and read your link, the whole page, the small note at the bottom.

Some countries do not report their crimes. Some countries are lax in going after criminals. Some countries don't list rape as a crime. Not just Europeans, also Asians, maybe even Canadians... I went to see because I'm interested in knowing where Canada stands.

I don't have any number to give you. It's YOUR link, YOUR numbers. It says USA is more honest in reporting than other countries. That's why the numbers cannot be accurate.

Simmer down.I'm not accusing you. I'm not defending USA. They're doing quite well without me. I'm just checking the link you offered.

kerrcarto - If you're willing to put the name of this old lady on the list of the people you're protecting, I'll move next door. Better yet, you'll come for a visit with your son and give me a lesson on how to handle the gun I'm ready to buy.

Prosper has done a similar thing with the infant mortality rates of US compared to the rest of the world. What many countries report as miscarriage (depending on how many weeks old the fetus is) we record as a premature birth and try to save. That causes our infant mortality rate to be higher. Apples and oranges.

"There are lies, damn lies, and statistics." - Often attributed to either Disraeli or Mark Twain.

Prosper

It is frequently brought up around here the "muslim problem" in France. You have never commented on it. Do you: not think there is any problem, welcome islamic rule, think they will eventually assimilate? what? I'd love to know.

many here think you should be somewhere between concerned and scared shitless. I am right there. Most think you should be armed at least as much as I am (shotgun and .22), but Dudley may be a better role model.

Claudia - "It says USA is more honest in reporting than other countries. "

Not at all!!
It says : Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence.
And because USA had bad numbers, you conclude it's more honest. So if USA is good, it's normal, and if it's bad, it's because other are cheating?
Totally irrelevant...

and, again, if you say USA's bad statistics show it's honnesty, it involves other countries good statistics show their dishonnesty, and you should be ready to argue on that .

CD, I don't know Australia... Never been there, don't know a single inhabitant. So I compared western countries (crime rate, jail population), and it seems your country is the most violent and insecure one. Period. So I wouldn't try to crib you to solve our problems...

Denny, like Claudia, you cannot bear the simple idea that any other country could be more efficient in any single area. Once I told you about life expectancy, and you answered something about black people drug problems that lowered your stats. Funny thing is I believed my country was full of middle age islamic barbrarians, but obviously they're doing better that your black drug addicts.

Patrick : simple questions, honnest response.
If I think there is any problem? Yes. Racism is a problem in my country too. In both ways. Arab people are despised by lot of people, most of them live in ghettos, it's harder for them to find a job, and in return some of them hate or despise us.

If I welcome islamic rules? I'm a catholic who support a secular state. if a religious rule is good, we must change it in a legal one. If not, who cares? Not me.

Do they will eventually assimilate?
Of course yes. Problems come from young people. Never from people who work here for a long time. Main problem for my country is not islam. It's unemployment.

Post 69 was for me !!
Youhou!!

I know, I should get a life...

;-)

Prosper -

That's what Sarkozy did...;-) À la vôtre!

Prosper - Most of our crime is in the inner city, also known as the ghettos. Much of it is drug related. The black "leaders" blame this problem on us not doing enough for the poor rather than preaching responsibility in the black community.
Easier to blame whitey. The irony here is that most black crime is against other blacks. You would think that useful idiots like John Lewis would want to do sumpin' about this but he bitches about "racial profiling" and thinks the solution to poverty is throwing money at it, sumpin' we've been doing for over 40 years.

As a populace is disarmed, violent crime goes up. That has happened in both Australia and the UK. You might look into getting a gun as your Moo-slime population will only get more violent as they become a larger percentage of your population. They're outbreeding you and they won't assimilate. I've mentioned many times about how I worry about what your three children will face as France becomes more Islamic. At least our Mexicans assimilate (by the second generation) and they do not explode.

Prosper -

Actually you gave me a very good link. "Numbers" is "NationMaster:Crime Statistics". As I told you, I was interested in Canada. I'm not too proud about where we stand. I wish someone (like Denny) could explain to me what's happening in my country and why. I need a gun!!!

To find out some of the things I quoted, you have to click each different crime. To find out more about rapes and the unreality of statistics in that area, you have to go to Vikipedia.

Take care, Prosper. We live in a dangerous time, everywhere in the world. No place is safe anymore. Does it matter which country has the lowest or highest rate of crimes, if I am, or you are the next victim? Better be prepared.

"Does it matter which country has the lowest or highest rate of crimes"

Yes, it does. If belgians do better than us, let's do it belgian style !

Proper. thanks for the honest answer. I don't see them assimilating into what appears to me to be a very rigid culture but we will see. Denny is right that much of our violent crime is conducted in the urban areas. Of course there are many exceptions to this but white on white crime, at least by my analysis, seems to be very domestic in nature here. Not the kind of thing easily legislated or policed away.

I agree with Denny and many here that changing our paradigm on the drug war, sealing our borders, and curtailing the entitlement state would go a long way to alleviating US crime problems. I don't know anything about Belgium or much care.

LOL - I leave a comment, go away for a bit and come back to a long involved argument. This is hilarious.

I wasn't going to add anything, except this: Prosper said,

"If belgians do better than us, let's do it belgian style!"

Okey, dokey, let's cut the population of our country and the size of our country to that of Belgium... I'm thinking that we could WAY outdo Belgium with our way of doing things if that should be the case.

Let's see... there are (according to the CIA world facts)

In Belgium:
10.4 million people
30,528 sq km area

USA:
303.8 million people
9,826,630 sq km area

When you can figure out a way to make those numbers comparable... we can then figure out how we too can run our country just like Belgium and see how it works out. Until then that argument is a non-starter. It's like saying the town of Raleigh, NC (population 276,000) should be run like New York City (population 8.2 million).

There is no way to make this comparison and not fall into gales of laughter - it's simply ridiculous.

heh.

Teresa (The SMART One)-
Good post. It seems that when Prosper paints himself into a corner, he resorts to laughing it off and ignoring the obvious to save himself from having to deal with facts. How French of him...

The belgian comment was an example for Claudia, because it's another french-speaking country. I don't know if they're doing good, I just wanted to say : If anyone, anyone, do better, let's try to understand how it works.

CD, your comment is just, you know, a stupid one...
Keep doing your good job.

Cute Prosper. Way to ignore the questions asked of you and the facts presented to you. How mighty froggish of you...

You don't understand that much, do you?

By the way, Australian population is 20 million people.

I hope that kerrcarto and his son have been having a good time at the range while we've been clicking here, there, everywhere to win the battle of statistics.;-)

Goodnight, Johnboy!

CD, I don't know Australia... Never been there, don't know a single inhabitant.

Exactly.

You don't understand that much, do you?

I understand enough to know that I don't need a French pansy to try an' school me on Americans and their firearms. I understand enough to know that a Frenchman disdains Americans for saving your asses. I understand that you, as a Frenchman, have not a clue as to our way of life. You despise us because you refused to stand up for yourselves and the Americans stood up for you. Simple. Period.

You claim all knowledge as to Americans and our, how did you put it?, insecurity... You don't have a clue Prosper. Jus' cause you are afraid of firearms doesn't make the American people madmen and murderers.

Bury your head in the sand and talk to me when your wife is wearing a burka. Maybe your buddies in Belgium can help you...

Are you pissed off CD?
You threw at me pansy, WWII AND the burkhas.
What else have you got?

Don't you think I should go and take a bath?

I love this vidi. It reminds me of how I was taught to use and respect guns at a young age, and teaching my son to do the same. All the debate aside, I'm armed. I won't bother with the police. If someone wants to harm me, the last thing I want is talk therapy from a pimply faced kid/cop with a clip board-when he gets around to showing up on his 10-speed. I prefer the big bang theory when and Only if neccessary. Hopefully this will never happen, but I've been in situations where I could imagine that scenario playing itself out. Why can't the libtards just go with the whole Darwinian survival of the fittest thingy that they so love-cling to?
Happiness is a clean gun--Love ya my fellow murderous law-abiding gun owning thugs!!!

http://www.devedia.com/dosghost/faf/TheFrench2.htm

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/02/limoliberal.jpgmid.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese-eating_surrender_monkeys

vet - you forgot one. http://www.portcityunderground.com/images/french-surrender_moto.jpg

groundskeeper willie... so underrated.

Are you pissed off CD?

Hardley Prosper. You have to try a lot harder than that to piss me off. I do, however find it funny that you again fail to answer questions addressed to you, and again fail to recognize the facts presented to you. Ignore the facts and they'll just go away right? As far as you taking a bath, I really don't care that you smell, as long as you stay in your pansey-ass'd country. Stink away!

for the record, what question did i not answer?

Prosper-
Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will improve those numbers? Show me that has worked anywhere?

Posted by CharlieDelta at April 20, 2008 04:49 PM

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you Prosper. Just a tool.

Prosper -

I'm sorry you got in trouble trying to help my country by mentioning French (?) Belgium. Canada is bilingual, but not a French-speaking country. Nine English-speaking provinces, one French-speaking province, (a bit of a pain, at times!) We're part of the British-Commonwealth. The Queen is still our Queen. If Canada would look for a solution to diminish criminal activities, I doubt they would go to Europe, even if it had it. They might go to London but most likely, they would go next door (USA) and compare notes. They already do about terrorists activities on Canadian soil.

All the best. Take care.

Claudia, the trouble comes from CD, no need to add anything else.

CD, my response was implicit : If you have bad stats, it's because your system is worse than other ones that don't allow anybody to play with guns...

You know, after your first summer vacations, you was supposed to come back and go to school again! It was not over !!

Who woulda thunk that I would get 90 comments on a video of Kerrcarto's sone at the range?

Prosper - US is kinda funny. Our cities with the most restrictive gun laws are those cities that have the highest crime rates. "When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." Take a look at how well restrictive gun laws are working in Australia. Since they have been disarming the law abiding folks, the violent crime rate has risen. Funny how that works.

Posted by Porsper at April 22, 2008 02:16 PM

Prosper, which part of Europe are you from?

The part who's asses we kicked, or the part who's asses we saved?

StanW SAWB......

It does not matter as in France it is interchangeable....it depends what the Germans/Muslims are about to do.
For your information , he comes from a region of France populated by those bearing a striking resemblance to the north end of a south bound horse.

For your information , he comes from a region of France populated by those bearing a striking resemblance to the north end of a south bound horse.
Posted by dudley1 at April 22, 2008 03:16 PM

He is from the part of France where everyone looks like a horse's ass?

Sorry, Dudley, but that did not narrow it down AT ALL!

How many robberies or murders happen at gun shows or the firing range? I want to see those numbers. I would guess they are prolly 0%.

Prosper, answer me this. If you were in a room with 20 people and you knew for a fact that everyone around you but three had a gun.

Would you pull out yours and try to rob someone?

How many robberies or murders happen at gun shows or the firing range? I want to see those numbers. I would guess they are prolly 0%.

kerrcarto-
It has never happened. Why, you may ask? Becuase there are many other armed citizens in the mix, and the ones who prefer to inflict harm on others don't have a chance, therefore they don't even try it.

What would Prosper do if he was in a room with armed indivduals and he didn't know who was holding?

A.) Agree with (TDO) while pissing himself
B.) Cry out for a Kotex while pissing himself
C.) Pray to Allah while pissing himself
D.) ALL THE ABOVE

I'll put my money on 'D'.

Ooops! I forgot about :

E.) Buy a bar of soap and grow a pair...

My money's still on "D".

kerrcarto, if I'm a thug with my gun already pulled out, who's gonna challenge me and pull out its own after me?
We're not in Good, Bad and Ugly !!

and the #100 is for me too !!

youhou !!

I would!

Prosper, see how that works? You asked a question and I gave you a direct answer. Not another question. Weird how that works huh?

Prosper, Here in the USA we never pull out until we are through.

LOL

Y'all and your guns...
What the fuck else is it but an expression of "Keep The Fuck Away From Me!"?
Posted by DanS. at April 19, 2008 05:45 AM

I take exception to that Dano. I'm not telling anyone to 'keep the fuck away from me'. I am having a good time throwing lead down-range and meeting new good people. American people.

I had a bb gun when I was a kid. My brother and I shot cans, bottles, birds, etc., and pops taught us well! He made me take the hunter/safety course before he bought me my first .22. What's wrong with that? We're not blowing away people at random, and we're not part of the problem. The GFW's in this country are the problem. Morons like (TDO) and Prosper are the problem. They don't understand the enjoyment and the bonding that takes place between a Father and Son. I thought you might...

Given, I haven't walked in your shoes and I have not been where you have been. You haven't walked in mine either, nor have you been where I have. For (TDO) to say that kerrcarto is "eqwipping" his son to be a 'killer' is nothing short of ignorant. For Prosper to agree with her is a given. For you to label us gun owners as you have is nothing short of an insult...

"They don't understand the enjoyment and the bonding that takes place between a Father and Son."

What a load of bullshit...

My son (8) and I went to our fist soccer game together last saturday.

Not killed anybody or anything...

What a load of bullshit...

Prosper-
That's actually not a load of bullshit. It's fine that you and your boy bond by playing soccer together. More power to you. I think it's great that you actually spend time with him. It's a boring sport, but whatever turns your gears... Whatever helps you bond is great, but don't give us shit for doing the same in our own way. I would rather my son know how to defend himself than know how to kick a fuckin' goal of some sort...

That's just me...

- "eh Timmy, I heard your Father learned you to shoot?"
- "yep my father CD is really a great father..."
- "Do you want us to go at your house and shoot some frogs pictures?"
- "Nope, my father CD always hide his guns, because of security..."
- "My father is not such a sissy, come at home, we gonna try his really cool guns..."

Prosper.......

When one comes from a culture such as you have already pre-conditioned to accept defeat or offer surrender.....I suppose it is expected guns would be viewed with suspicion. Your country, your bad.

Here we recognize the value of ownership of weapons & the use for pleasure & defense. This is the difference between a free people & those subject to the will of others. Our country, our good.

Prosper The Hopeless Fool-
You will never get it, and that's okay. I am done trying to reason with an unreasonable fool. Keep your head in the sand and the white flag flying buddy. We would expect nothing less from you.

stats

funny fact : Children living in the South have an unintentional shooting death rate that is seven times that of children living in the Northeast.

way to go men !!

Crunching numbers is fun isn't it?

Unintentional firearm deaths ages 0-14 (according to the CDC) from 2000 to 2005: 412.

Unintentional drowning deaths from 2000 to 2005 ages 0-14: 4,993.

According to your illogic, Prosper, we should get rid of all the swimming pools too?

Clearly the only solution is to make sure we have diving board locks installed on all pools in this country. And no pool should be installed within 5 miles of a water source of any kind. Registration, chlorine microstamping, and some way to prevent the exploited “diving in” loophole are necessary.

Swimming pools … the silent suburban killer stalking your children in your own backyard

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! …

CD,Fuckin classic. LMAO

Prosper, ever gonna answer the question?

giving a gun to a child or let him swim without supervision is equally inconsiderate.

as is documented, in my house are two unloaded guns (shotgun and .22). in seperate locked areas, there is amunition for both.

In my back yard are a swimming pool and a trampoline. Further, in my house is alcohol and scissors that are just itching to be run with.

despite my callous disregard for my three children's lives, all are happy well adjusted kids with all of their appendages.

fvck me.

Oh, I see... so now it's all about supervision? Well, kerrcarto's boy is being supervised while firing a .22 hand gun, yet you have a problem with that? Where's the consistancy Prosper?

Once again, you misunderstood CD.
- giving a gun to a child
- let a child swim without supervision

clearer?

I wasn't joking : that school re-opens every year !!

clearer?
Yes. Much. Thank you for clairifying just how much of a fool you really are. It's solid now. Thanks.

Not gonna answer that question are ya Prosper.
Par for the course I suppose.

Fine kerrcarto. I answer. I would whip a soccer ball out of my pocket and kick goals until they fall sleep. Then I simply take wallets. After that I go do cannon ball in empty pool, 'cause we all know dangers of water. I hope swim pools banned some day. They are danger.

Prosper

Bravo! I admire your persévérance. You're at the right place to say what you think for as long as you wish.

Denny reminded me once that Voltaire wrote to Helvetius, "I detest what you say but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write."

Another quote "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." was wrongly attributed to Voltaire. It was said by his friend: Evelyn Beatrice Hall trying to summarize Voltaire's attitude in her biography. See Vikipedia.

In any case, keep talking Prosper. You're brave and interesting.

Claudia - Prosper is on the other side of most of our political beliefs, but he follows the rules of my site and doesn't degenerate into name calling. I have stated many times that if he ever comes to Atlanta, I'd have him over to my house for dinner. We have communicated by e-mail and he has sent me pictures of his three beautiful children. For that reason I am really sorry that France is reluctant to tackle their growing problem with Islamists.

Yes Prosper, please continue to demonstrate the wonders of the liberal French mind. It's entertaining if not flat out hilarious...

Denny - I admire Prosper for everything you mention. At least, a month ago, Sarkozy sent another 700 soldiers to Afghanistan. I'm scared for European countries. They're invaded by Islam and they don't see it. I'm scared for Canada...We're in no position to do more than send soldiers to Afghanistan. I feel it's not enough. At least, our Prime Mimister, at the risk of a general election, has obtained from the opposition that we will stay in Kandahar till 2011 instead of 2009. By then, he might get more.

Prosper, why would you bring a soccerball to a gun fight? That is just dumb. At least bring a knife! If the guy shooting at you misses, you can at least slit your own throte.

Actually that last comment by Prosper was not by the real Prosper. CD you should be ashamed of yourself. Prosper is one of the good guys. He just doesn't agree with us.

Whoops..Throat, I meant.

I know Denny. I should be ashamed of myself, but I'm not. I left my real email for those who check that shit. Just being a smartass is all...

I wanted him to keep going with his statement that a boy (under supervision) with a gun is as dangerous as a boy near a pool. I read his words wrong I guess...

I like Prosper. He makes me think sometimes. His smart-ass'd comments are great too, and it's fun going back and forth with 'em.