I wondered the same thing about the windmills in the Altamont Pass first time I drove through it--nice wind blowing, more than half the turbines dead. The friend I was with, a physicist at Lawrence Livermore, explained to me it was because they were broken and there was no motivation for the owners to fix them, since they had already made their profits via government grants and tax breaks for simply building them. Continued operation was an expensive hassle that wasn't worth the pissant income.
As for Jay's idiotic argument about how more US oil coming on to the market would not affect prices--oh, yeah, I forgot that oil prices have always been $500 a barrel and could never possibly come down. It's not like OPEC members ever doublecross each other, or that other countries could decide to cut prices in order to sell more of their own oil. That NEVER happens.
What a freakin' moron.

Not sending money to our enemies and becoming energy independant is a matter of survival for the west.We are now in a race for survival with these savages..they know we will one day have no need for them so they plan to undermine us from within as well as from abroad....we need to do whatever it takes to defeat this new type war upon our western nations.

Thud's point is both valid and important. At the moment we are importing about $1 Billion a day in foreign oil. If we could develop sufficient domestic resources to be self sufficient it wouldn't significantly lower the the price of oil on the world market, but think what adding over $350 Billion a year to our domestic economy would do to create jobs, reduce inflationary pressure, lower the interest rates, and, perhaps most importantly significantly improve our leverage internationally.

Democrats would rather do anything than support the U.S. -- whether it's U.S. business or U.S. foreign policy or the U.S. military which is trying to protect us.

All of them have to operate with one hand tied behind their backs. And for what? So the Dems can get political support from their anti-capitalist, self-hating interest groups.

Too bad we don't have a candidate who will call them on it.

Denny.......

I know as do you preaching to the choir is a feel good proposition.......however having traveled in Europe & Japan experiencing high speed, on time, affordable & clean rail transportation , the failure of the powers that be in this country to emulate what others are doing astounds me.

I echo your statement that if a trip was less then say 750 miles , I chose to drive rather then fly....were high speed rail service available that would have been my choice for cost & comfort.
Many is the time when people I was in Cincinnati on business were shocked when I was able to drive back to Erie & arrive before their flights from Cincinnati to Pittsburg then Erie even left Pittsburg.

I guess it is strange that an emerging super power like China could recognize what the future is to be & construct high speed rail service to the hinterlands while the ranking super power United States allows ` idiots in Washington to fritter away our competitive edge in just about everything.

Are we doomed? probably not but there are indeed hard times on the horizen until common sense prevails once again in the public conscience.

Denny - Excellent post. I agree with so much. very timely on the "non working wind turbines". this last week I traveled to lubbock on 114. about 20 miles out of town, a couple miles north of the highway is a huge wind farm. not a one of them working and winds in excess of 20 mph constantly.

If Toren is right than that is depressing as hell.

I also agree with the stupidity of the "ANWR Oil won't lower the cost". a) it will and b) even if it does not it is money stayin here in the US that has been going to the ragheads. wtf? what is so hard to understand about that.

talked to two very lib friends today. both support drilling now. one was even a Kucinich supporter...........now that my friends is a liberal.

But they keep building windfarms:

Westar

"6. Continue work on solar power. Right now it is not a viable option."

This may no longer be true. Nanosolar appears to have hit the ball out of the park on solar cell technology. Current cells are selling at $2/watt, and, once their new world-scale production plant comes on-line, they project $1/watt.

Do the libtards/ecotards really, truly want to see propellers spinning on every hillcrest? Let's see what happens when we start filing construction permits.

Hydro is a renewable resource, but you haven't seen us building many dams lately. Guess why. Could it be ... ecotards? Why yes, I believe it could.

Drill here. Drill now. Pay less, and starve a terrorist! That's priceless.

Warthog, getting the price down to $2.00/watt is nice, but what is the basic efficiency of the devices? Even at 100%, the watt-density of sunlight may not be sufficient to provide an adequate energy supply without covering acres upon acres of land with collectors. The Physics Factbook indicates that solar energy hitting the earth provides about 1.35 kW per square meter (I assume at all frequencies). Most solar panels only convert a narrow band of frequencies to electrical output.

What was the Dims' recent argument - that oil companies already have access to reserves they are not fully exploiting? I would like more information on that topic.

I have very strong doubts, though. I figure if it were cost effective to tap into those reserves that it would have been done. If there is oil that is already available that is not being pumped, I can only concur that it is because the difficulty of obtaining it must outstrip the cost of doing so. Anybody got any info on this?

If somebody was to invent an automobile that could run on salt water the libs would be against it. They would use the excuse that we are going to deplete all the water in the ocean. They are all retards!

Warthog, getting the price down to $2.00/watt is nice, but what is the basic efficiency of the devices? Even at 100%, the watt-density of sunlight may not be sufficient to provide an adequate energy supply without covering acres upon acres of land with collectors. The Physics Factbook indicates that solar energy hitting the earth provides about 1.35 kW per square meter (I assume at all frequencies). Most solar panels only convert a narrow band of frequencies to electrical output.
Posted by Nastimann at June 23, 2008 09:04 PM

1.35kw/m^2 is for all frequencies. Current peak efficiency is 16.9% for a publicly available solar panel, so 16.9% of that 1.35kw is converted to electricity. Although that 16.9% panel is hideously expensive. The cheaper panels (when viewed as a cost of how many watts they produce) are less efficient. Think about what we could do if we shingled the roofs of houses with these things. It would basically reuse a chunk of space already covered by something else and reduce how much would be needed else where.

What am I doing here writing about oil supply? I'm boiling mad. Who is this Bookman guy? He wrote the stupidest, most anti-american article I ever read...Whining, can't do, life-is-forever-changed, there's-no-way-out...He puts all the gloomy numbers and that's it. Sorry, life has ended. No solution will work.

THIS IS AMERICA. Remember? The people who opened the West. Wouldn't want him in a caravan with me.
I'm no expert in oil supply and energy conservation. But I'm not stupid. It's obvious that it's better to drill your own oil than to buy from a foreign country, even if the price stays the same. Why should you enrich the Arab world? The money you spent at home eventually goes back in your pocket. It's a proven theory.

OK, you're late drilling. Then start NOW. Waiting longer only compounds the problem. If I'm 150 lbs. instead of 130, will I wait to be 175 to start dieting? See the logic? It applies to every problem.

Changing lifestyle will not hurt anyone if sensible solutions are offered to improve the present lifestyle. It's possible to conserve energy and people's freedom of choice. I'll just repeat: This is America. You've already done the impossible many times. I'm firmly convinced that some Americans are already working at finding the answers.

I haven't said anything new but it certainly helped me to write it. Thanks for the space, Denny. This Bookman guy should be deported to the Arab world.

as with dudley1, i feel we are preaching to the choir, unless danS wants to chime in since we hear he's been located again (or prosper, perhaps?).

agree with all of the above, for the most part, particularly the part about our producing oil, regardless of price effect, would be a good thing. and i think that it would lower the price.

not sure i agree with you on the trains. don't get me wrong, i love travelling on the train. and when i lived in france would take the TGV over pretty much any other transportation if given the choice.

but this is america, and we don't need to subsidize yet another lib pipe dream. if the market would bare a rapid train, i think it would be here. and look at europe anyway, where they have those things. now they have flights from london to rome for $39 or something.

whatever, my point being that we shouldn't subsidize another lib transit fantasy. if it were privately viable, i'm sure i would use it frequently - DC, Savannah (hilton head), new orleans, etc. be sweet.

just drill, man.

Marine6, Most of the oil is on government owned land. The income from that oil would go to the gov and given that we presently have dumbascraps in congress would be squandered on hand outs to the Lazy. Still, the idea that The terrorists receive less is important to me.
Careful everyone when you say screw the caribou, some liberal might get hurt falling off a bucket.

Claudia - Jay Bookman is the second most liberal member of the editorial board of the Atlanta Urinal And Constipation. Cynthia Tucker, who runs the editorial board, is the most liberal. Jay has been against the Iraq War from day 1. That should tell you all you need to know.

Couldn't we just use Bock to help fire some pistons?

Interesting. I just did a post about how much I hate dummocrats, and wish they'd burn in hell, and why the hell does anybody ever vote for them...?

But anyway, here's a not so obvious thought for our liberal friends. How much oil does a tanker use in transporting oil halfway around the world? And given how many of these tankers there are, how much of the world's oil supply goes just there?

And finally, how much oil would it take to pump oil from ANWR down to, say, Juneau? Now let's compare that to the first number.

Oh, and don't forget. Wind farms are good, unless they're gonna be built within sight of the Kennedy's compound. Then wind power is A Bad Thing....

Denny - I'm ready to whack that Bookman guy over the head. I nearly signed my comment: Grouchy Old Claudia.

All I can say to all of you Americans is, look to the longer term, the bigger picture.
When the rest of the world runs out, you'll still have all of your oil, the rest of us will have to come begging to you (Alright, Alright we do already). The Americans will finally rule the world.... Maybe those Dems are more forward thinking than the rest of you.

I can just see it now:

Canadian GOC:
Grouchy Old Claudia.

Claudia-
How about Countdown for your theme song? This is not meant to be an insult, but a cheers to ya...

Just got done watching "NASA Missions" on Discovery Channel tonight so I had to get fired up. Made me think of these guys for some reason...

Put all the Dimocrats' in one room and use all
there hot air to run wind turbines.

Better yet just shot them.

CD, did that show not kick ass?

Democrats are spewing this idea that we can't get the oil for ten years when it only took us about 8 years to put a man on the moon!

I guarantee you if the gov't told the gas companies "We need this oil and we need it here within 2 years" it would get done.

Denny, as I look over your list, the only thing I see that's missing is a comprehensive energy policy to make all of them things happen.

Ethanol from corn has got to be the stupidest idea in all of Creation, especially since in America we grow corn using petroleum-based fertilizers. It's a "solution" pushed by agribusiness, driven by idiotic Gummint subsidies that encourage farmers to grow corn and soy, using nonrenewable-resource-based fertilizers.

DaveH- you still haven't quite grasped how Dimocraps think. When the only wells that have oil are in the USA, we'll be expected to pay to pump it out ourselves and then give it away to the "poor & dis-advantaged" in Zimbawastan, Frogistan, Tijuanastan........

Rob J

B.O.T.R. -
As always, you miss nothing. ;-)

CD - Good video. Thanks. Yes! Good to remember Nasa when you read a negative, whining traitor like Jay NO-MAN. He never understood the glorious History of his country from beginning to now. When did America ever said: We can't do that.

Correction:
When did America ever say: We can't do that.

I think I'll have to write to the Urinal/Constipation Ragsheet.

Denny:

Your plan and my plan are congruent, so I don’t need to list my plan.

The problem is that the anointed, through congress, loves to pick winners and losers. And they are so good at it. Ethanol winner: Nuclear loser.

Nothing should be off the table.

Constant reference is made to the goal of reaching the moon. What no one mentions is that congress didn’t tell them how to do it. They didn’t say that you must use solid fuel rockets or you must use liquid fuel rockets. They didn’t say the capsules must be pressurized to 14.7 psi or 8 psi. They didn’t say that the capsule must have an oxygen environment or an air environment or a heli-ox environment, you get the idea.

The anointed are not that smart. No one knows which technology will prove the most viable, only the market can determine that. Thank goodness congress didn’t stick their nose into the development of the automobile. Once the first automobile was built, dozens of configurations emerged. You had four wheel models and three wheel models; you had some with tillers and some with steering wheels; they were powered by gasoline, steam and electricity; they had engines in the front and engines in the back; they had solid tires and balloon tires; and on and on. Fortunately, in those days we did not have a socialist know-it-all congress and the market was allowed to weed out the weak designs giving us the reliable cars we have today. And, I could give dozens of examples.

Finally, Denny alluded to something no one else (that I’ve heard) has mentioned. With our current electrical capacity, we have brown-outs, shortages and electric suppliers offer discounts for off peak usage. Can you imagine if (poof) 150 million (or whatever) gas powered cars were converted to battery power? Since we can’t build nuclear plants, where would we get the electricity to charge them all? And how many electric cars will we find pulled over on the side of the road with dead batteries? How do you hike to a gas station or call AAA for a couple of gallons of electricity?

Bah! Humbug! We are doomed.

Gun-totin-wacko: Yes ... and don't the environmentalists just scream themselves purple when a tanker leaks oil! Do you think they'd step up and accept their share of the blame for that - hardly.

Constant reference is made to the goal of reaching the moon. What no one mentions is that congress didn’t tell them how to do it.

Perfectly stated, IMO!

it so pains me that libs can't see how two faced they are (examples from the IMAX movie that i gave last week would fit here as well).

so it would be bad if we were to drill for our oil, for all of the above reasons (and i like Art's point about the transportation "greenhouse gas" contribution, how funny is that?!). but the enviros don't seem to mind if brazil gets their oil. why the two different opinions from the same libs. it is just painful to try to understand them...

Dudley, mass transit is fine. In small urban areas. In Singapore it is wonderful. Let's see, Singapore, 5M people in an area the size of Colorado Springs. The problem is CSprings metro is at most 500,000. Let's try mass transit where I live now, Dallas/Fort Worth. It's what, 15, 20 times the land mass of Singapore? And DFW metro area is close to the population of Singapore. So you would have to spend 20x the amount of money to accommodate mass transit in DFW as you would to accomplish the same in Singapore. We are so much more spread out in the U.S. than any of the asian or european countries are. Mass transit as they do it won't work here. I agree, rails would be good. But we have to stop the subsidies and make them financially viable.

BTW, the Singapore mass transit is privately owned - it has to show a profit.

Bryan

A little Google searching has led to the realization that Poof! PFM! translates to Pure Fukn Magic. Saw it used in both a sarcastic sense where libs are surprised at the workings of supply and demand and in a straightforward sense where PFM would be needed to acheive the stated goal because none of the steps to reach that goal are adequate to do so. Thought I would share because it was enough to make me search it out.

Bryan - The libs don't want you spread out like in the DFW area. They want you to all move into the city so you can walk or take mass transit every where. They hate sprawl.

Brad. Put your mouse over the PFM and wait a few seconds and Pure Fucking Magic will pop up.

Rail is great, when conditions allow. Population density is just one thing. Distances, terrain, access to right-of-way...and in America, environmental issues. Can you imagine the hassles involved with getting clearances through multiple states and over tens of thousands of separate "ecosystems"...? I have serious doubts it could even be done.
When the Japanese government owned the subways and railways, it was losing three trillion (yes, trillion) yen a year. They've been privatized and now show a profit.
I got a laugh out of a comment a friend of mine made recently. We were discussing the idea of offshore drilling in California (she grew up in Santa Barbara and was well aware of the natural seeps) and she said that we would never have the technology to drill through the thousands of feet of lawsuits covering the deposits.

Denny - Last evening, I googled "POOF PFM". I was sent to two of your past rants truly worth reading, though it made me madder and madder.

Ap.28,07- Twit of the week: Syivia Rogers, on Gas and oil price need regulation.

March 30,06- The Dimocrat's National Security Plan.

It's unreal.I can't believe that those people exist, and get elected.

Bryant....

Mass transit is good in smaller high density areas???

The Shinkansen high speed rail system runs from one end of Japan to the other. I have traveled to & from Narita Airport ,Tokyo,Nagoya,Kyoto & many other major cities. At each , transfer to smaller regional rail systems was fast,simple & color coded....did I mention ...On Time! Clean! Friendly people!, with on board food & beverage service for the high speed Shinkansen system.

Were or are they losing money? Who cares ,they probably subsidize it as a neccessity.I cannot speak for your city or Singapore but I suspect Tibet & Sinkiang provinces in China are more then a little spread out & of low population density.....As I said Neccessity encourages development, besides we think it is the politically correct thing to subsidize sloth, laziness, entitlement & greed in this country via welfare why not what is really good for the nation.

As fossil fuel demand rises throughout the world & cost spirals ever higher....neccessity will force acceptance here for that which much of the world is now aware of & is adopting.

So dudley1, do they have little gangster assholes in Japan to screw it up for the rest of us. Do they have hire the "lazy, uneducated and incompetent" rules that are used to staff the trains and stations. You know, gummint programs.
Just the little things that make it impossible to be done here.

Denny thanks for the mouse over the initials hint...
I am always embarrassed to ask you what the HELL you are initialling!!!!!!!!

First I signed the drill here drill now.

But I would like to know why the oil companies currently lease 60 million acres that they asked for and are not currently using them to potential. Are the 200k acres in ANWR are going to make all the difference? Also there are 10 thousand plus drill permits that go unused each year for at least the last 5 years.
Supply and demand does not seem to be working here. At 25 miles per gallon, that means gasoline consumption nationwide dropped 440 million gallons in March I see lots and lots of scootersbeing sold, people riding motocycles, bicycles and continue to here about how traffic is down, but oil continues to rise. Shit even the other day Saudi says they will produce another 200k barrels a day and oil climbs even higher on the market WTF!!!

I think the speculators need to get slapped a few times, then again they are just using the system to make some cash.

If the government really wants to help then help the solar industry. First and for most the last time I checked the sun was not going any where. And the best thing is as we continue to increase the hole in the atmosphere maybe the increased sun will create more power. I have been considering putting solar panels on my roof, as I need to replace the current shingles, but It just is not possible.

As much as I think that mass transit is a good thing Just to help improve the Air quality (look at the smog in CA, the very nice smelling cloud that seems to sit over NYC. It is my understanding that Amtrak would not survive with out the government funding. In Maine they just asked for like 200 million or they where going to leave the state (but not to long ago I tried to get tickets to Boston and it was sold out 2 weeks out). I just do not understand how this all works.

OK enough ranting, but one last question what do we do with the nuke waste?

Bill

ty guy - Any time you see initials like PFM or SRF, I use the acronym tag and that makes the mouse magic work.

Bill - We store the nuke waste in Yucca Mountain in Nevada. We have spent billions creating an underground nuke waste facility there.

The demand for gas is coming from India and China which has an emerging middle class that are buying cars. China is currently subsidizing gas which means the gummint is selling it to the people at a loss. That is one of the reasons they are drilling off our coast. As to the unused leases the story I've heard is that there is no oil there.

I also have a question about refineries. How backlogged are we on refinery capacity, and is that really more the culprit? How long does it take to get a refinery up and running, and what are the government obstacles to building them?

Good, Great points all. But most of you are forgetting what makes the world go around, women spread their legs and kids behave.

Money.

Soros and his ilk are spending money hand over dick to pay various groups, congressvarmits and others to make sure that they get their way and will able to make even more money.

You think that Gore wants to save the planet for mankind and all the little animals? No...he wants to save the planet (in his way, with his methods) so that he can make money. More money than than most billionaires have ever had or wanted.

Money.

Don't forget that.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

First let me say this. If you guys don't know something, don't ask it here or at a regular blog. Go and google the energy and drilling, and exploration websites and spend a few days reading there.

I live right in the middle of one of the past's biggest oil fields.

West Texas

For years, we produced billions of barrels of oil, then the wells "petered out".

By "petered out" they stopped giving out all this oil using teck that was available at that time, and considering how much it took to pump it and the price at which it sold...those wells were capped. Some were even cemented in, which makes it really hard to ever open them back up.

Exploration stopped because the cost exceeded the profit on new exploration and test wells.

This shit is expensive. Even back then, running out a new field which only some dickheadd from A&M said there MIGHT be oil or gas, was millions of dollars from the time you drove up until the time you either drove off or put in a rig to bring the oil up. Even then the cost had just started, After the well was ready for a pumpjack, you had to lay plumbing for tanks or a pipeline to a pumping station. You had to improve the roads, pay the fines, taxes and a hundred other expenses, all over and above the lease payments, the payments to the hundreds of guys that drilled, set up and broke their backs on that ONE well.

Now, to get to one person's question here. Why do we have all of these unused leases?

Well, they are unused because drilling on them would not make a profit. You know...profit, the thing that makes business stay in business and not go broke.

The oil companys have to buy leases for at least two years, sometimes more. Sometimes the margin for profit is close enough that they re-lease the property, in the hope that if prices go up enough, they will be able to make money on that lease.

That has happened for the last three years out here where I live in West Texas. Thousands of wells have been opened up, and are pumping oil. Not enough to shout about, but enough to make a small profit.

The real benifit here has been the employment. Men are coming from all over to work here. There is no place for them to live. Motels are full, trailer parks are full, homes...? all taken. Hell there are men living five to a room at motels. Which is ok, since most are not there most of the time anyway and when they are there they are so dead tired, they could sleep in the bathtub or on the kitchen floor.

Roughnecking is hard dangerous work, but the pay is really good.

Lucky for me I always worked inside in air conditioned spaces, had customers who brought me coffee, bought my lunch, invited me to their parties and lots of other perks. Working for Big Blue was a hard and mostly thankless job, but at least I didn't have to break my back or risk my life every day.

Now, going to Alaska or off the coast and working up there on new oil fields. Man if I was young, I would go, not only for the adventure but for the money.

Papa Ray

Papa Ray - You worked for Big Blue? What did you do?

bill - papa ray said it better then I can, but in short, oil companies do not believe that drilling in these lease would be profitable. perhaps if they were convinced oil would stay at $130 per barrell they would. They obviously do not.

It is too slippery a slope to on the one hand bitch that they are too profitable, and then question their business acumen on where they drill. They want anwr because they could get bang for their buck.

also big props to gun-totin-wacko. throw that piece of linburger (sp) cheese in the daily KOS and watch those bitches scatter.

I also agree with Dudley that rail is in our future. Nuclear plants can power those things all day long. can't power planes though. also 9/11 showed us that a few box cutters mixed with some fucked up mooslims can shut down our air travel for a long time.

Denny

The main use for ethanol is as a fuel oxygenate. MBTE or whatever it was called was found to be nasty bad. Ethanol has little support in many areas, but here in the mid-west, it is supplying jobs and adding income to farms, which has historically been hard to come by. Since WWII, there has been a cheap food policy in this country, which translates to piss poor income for family farms. Note I said "family", I have no time for big corporate operations. Think Tyson.

There isn't enough acres to grow corn on to make much of a dent in the domestic fuel supply, so ethanol will continue to be only a fuel additive.

One other thing that never gets mentioned. When ethanol is produced, only the starch is utilized. A high protein by-product is produced that is used as animal feed. Ethanol is not raising the price of corn nearly as much as the weakness of the dollar is. Our corn is still cheap to overseas buyers.

they are unused because drilling on them would not make a profit

Thanks, Papa Ray. It is as I suspected. It was the only logical conclusion I could arrive at.

Chuck from Tacoma.....

In my post I referenced On Time!Clean!Friendly people!....with on board food & beverage service on the Shinkansen line......guess this answers what kind of people they employ,actually it is a cultural thing......honesty,respect,honor & personal responsibility are for the most part something you find everyday be it on a train, in a cab ,on a bus or from the average citizen in Japan today......The respect & courtesy can be stifling at times.

Could it be done here? ...Certainly, if we adopt a no nonsense attitude with those who require it.We in this country have accepted the attitude & sleaze which the kept society displays , their sullen demeanor & contempt for those of us who fund their existance is something which needs an attitude adjustment. Workfare with rules & regulations established & enforced would be a good start.

It is my understanding that China is not drilling off the coast of Florida (they are working with Cuba), this was a rummor that was started by our great shooting VP.

But again why are there so many perits applied for and not used every year?

A site I just stummbled upon that seems to think Oil big companies had a large part to do with this
http://www.citizen.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuclear/electricity/Oil_and_Gas/articles.cfm?ID=11829

Bill,
VP Cheney got the "China drilling off Florida" thing from a columnist, I think someone said it was George Will. So I would not say the VP "started" it.

As to your question:
"what do we do with the nuke waste?"

Recycle it. A spent fuel rod is far from "waste".

Scrap Jimmah's ban on reprocessing, start recycling all that valuable fuel. Build MOX and breeder reactors. And to hell with McCain's 45 new plants in 20 years. Lets have 100 new plants in 10 years, with the first 10 or 20 online in four years. (Although I really don't know if we can make the fuel at that rate. The antinuke Luddites have done a good job of spreading fear and discouraging investment.)

As I said before, and will repeat again and again: THIS IS AMERICA.

When I'm reading Denny's great post and the intelligent, perceptive, well-informed comments on this tread, I have no doubt that some Americans are hard-at-work to get the way out of this chaotic situation. You already have the answers...It will be done. Maybe it will be done for money. That's not a problem. The world loves American money. It will be done also because the challenge is there. America grew not because it was easy, but because it was difficult. That's what the core of your country, the real people, the builders relish. If you're told it's impossible, you will prove that it can be done.

This is America.

Thank you Claudia for your kind words on the usa.

Days after 911 I was deeply shaken at the great loss of life I had witnessed live. It really kicked my ass, like the gi's used to say. I turned on the TV and FARM AID was on from somewhere in the heartland. And there was this beautiful blue eyed kansas farm girl singing her ass off. She was beautiful and she was strong and she was blue-eyed.

And then it hit me. There are so many great people and things we have that are distinctly American. The arab world will never have a Martina Mc Bride. This was an attack by the have-nots. Their back-ass koran has given them a culture that is without. We have it. They don't.

Beirut does not have baseball. Damascus does not have a naval history. Iran does not have hollywood. This country has done more to shape the world in 200 years than these neanderthals have in 4000.

They have no courage, they fight as effeminate cowards with explosives. They are uncouth, filty barbary and persian coast scum that have been running from us since 1800.

THEY ARE EVERYTHING WE ARE NOT.

We will beat these bastards. Bin Laden will be dead soon. Once we get their fucking oil irrelevant with new technology they will go back from whence they came. Nasty, smelly, child molesting goat herders.

Damn, I feel better.

vetfromhell

vetfromhell - Way to go! This is America.

Don't forget about Richard "gerbil" Gere crying on 9/12/01 saying that "we need to understand them." What a fuckin' crock of shit!

I understand one thing about these savages:

They need to die! Swiftly, accurately, and with no mercy! Collateral damage you may ask? Whine about your collateral damage all you want when you move to France. It's them before us, unless you happen to be some Hollywierd asshole! These motherfuckers need to be exterminated from the planet.

It's that simple.

What CD said. Martina Mc Bride is not going to wear a burkha by god!

Richard Gere? LOL

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