Yes, she done good, and she came across as an honest, sincere person who has worked hard to get where she is. There is nothing bitter about her at all.

Now, watch out for the sh*t slinging that's coming. It's going to be epic. I have no doubt, however, that she knows how to deal with it and throw it back.

She did what her handlers told her to do.

DanS - As do all politicians. What's your point? This was the most important speech of her life so far. She performed well.

DanS...Piss Off! Palin delivered the best damn speech this nation has heard in a long time. Period. Can't wait to see the libtards contort over this...and Palin's CLASSY response.

She is magnificent. I don't think her "handlers" had a big job to do. It's very obvious that she is her own woman. The opposition will tear her apart. This will not deter her. She knows how to defend herself, how to promote McCain and the Conservative policies. She also knows how to handle a family crisis in public. The other side is better not touch one hair of her children's head. She'll react like a tigress. And rightly so.

Bozobama is playing a great "respect-family" game but his Democrats are throwing mud at her family everywhere. They better watch their steps.

Right ON Palin! It's really kinda funny that the libs can't swallow the fact that as a Veep nominee, she has more credentials than the socialist clown running (as POTUS) against her. I fucking love it! Hypocracy at it's finest. What say you DanO? Wait, don't bother. This thread already reeks of PDS.

I wonder when the Sportsmen For Obama/Biden stickers get plastered all over the PTO Cruisers like they did in '04?

I can't wait...

I wonder if Biden is gonny cry like John (no-lib media-investigation/coverage-against-him-bangin' some-dumb-whore-and-havin-a-kid) Edwards did when ketchup-boy lost in '04? I really hope so! Oh man, that was entertaining to say the least! Edwards sobbing like a little bitch made my day and cracked me up as well as a few more beers. Thanks "sportsman".

You libs should do stand-up! Maybe that way, you could actually get some laughs and help pay for the illegals raping this country that y'all want us to pay for...

I am not sure that Palin has more credentials than Obama or anybody else for that matter. Being a first term governor of one of the least populated States in the Union for two years, and being the mayor of a town of $5500 is experience, but is it relevant experience? I won't name call and bash her, but it seems like everyone who has bashed Obama for his lack of experience are now leading an offensive to tout Palin's experience when it is obvious that it is not extensive.

Gotta love it . . .

"What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?

Lipstick!"

That has been her attitude here in Alaska taking on the establishment of politics here. Go straight after it with that smile . . . while she cuts and guts you with the best of them.

Is she perfect, no but who is . . . but she is effective!

I don't think the 'handlers' had too much to add to her message tonight as it was very much her style from the heart.

Her test will come in the debates where she will need some 'information' to help her. She has always surrounded herself with knowledgeable people and is a quick study. She will handle it well whatever comes her way.

It's going to be fun this year with so many issues and the changes 'blowin' in the wind!

Ice

Dkelsmith-
You're not sure she has more credentials than BHO? C'mon man, how can you doubt that?

Being a first term governor of one of the least populated States in the Union for two years, and being the mayor of a town of $5500 is experience, but is it relevant experience?

You just made her argument for her. Yes, it's definately relevant if you're going to compare her argument to BHO's. What has he really accomplished? Seriously... What has he done?

It really frightens me that Democrats are more concerned with the #2 Veep's daughter's so-called pregnancy than the #1 POTUS's record and "experience" as a "community organizer"...

Cute...

Well, it may be "executive" experience, but the fact of the matter is if Obama is going to be called out about his lack of experience, you should admit that Palin has limited experience as well. I know that you don't like Biden, but can you say that he doesn't have experience good, bad, or otherwise? All I am saying is that it seems that the right came out on the offensive to talk about her experience, but when I look at it, I say, "Man, that is not all that extensive." Her town has a fraction of the population that Obama represented in the State Legislature.

but the fact of the matter is if Obama is going to be called out about his lack of experience, you should admit that Palin has limited experience as well.

That's just it, Dkelsmith, the Obama Camp called her out first. Are they really going to question her experience (or the lack of) to his experience, or (lack of experience?)

GMAFB.

C'mon man. Are you kidding me?

Dkelsmith, here's the thing, Palin weilds the veto pen and apparently quite often. BHO is for stealing all of our profits, he calls them taxes. BHO started a bogus foundation with William Ayers (the unrepentent terrorist) which was to supposedly raise money for 'education'. Apparently it raised alot of money for Ayers and his pals right before it floundered and folded. My question is this, where did the money go? If BHO was such a great exec of the board, why did it fail? Was it all a ruse to fund domestic terrorists and a way for BHO to step into the corrupt Chicago Political System? The Chicago Library has just finally opened up the public files on this due to pressure from the public. (huh?) It seems that there are alot of ookey things clattering around in BHO's closet. I'm not looking for conspiracies, just more proof that this guy is an empty suit. When it comes to experience, his wife seems better qualed to run for office than he does. No, I'm not kidding. At least she has an office job and shows up for work...or at least she did at one point.

OF all the years Bidet boy has been in the senate, his coleges never named him to anything important, like speaker or whip. committee chairman is based on seniority.
As a state assembly man, Insane Obama was faced with important votes over 150 times. Insteadof taking a decisive position he voted "present"
As a senator Insane Obamma has spent four of his six years campaigning for a higher office.
As president what would he do?

Loved the speech. Love her. The Dims are in TROUBLE whether they wanna admit it or not.

I was born in 1963. here are the presidents and their foriegn policy experience in my lifetime: Kennedy, none. Johnson, maybe a little as vp, nixon, he was window dressing as a vp and didnt do anything for Ike, not much. ford - not much if any, carter- none, reagan- none, GHWBush - a lot by comparison china, cia, and vp. clinton -none. GWBush - none.

and honestly here is biden's - he disagrees with whatever Bush says does.

None of us vote on experience really. we vote whats in a person's heart and how they communicate it. Give me Palin all day and twice on Sunday. I'll sleep fine at night.

DanS crawled out from under his rock........

You are low & crass, you do not give credit when credit is due. She did what her handlers told her to do?? Even you in your fog of liberal dysfunction can do better then that.

Maybe you had ought to talk to your handlers & ask them what you should do........Do you remember the question you posed to me about my life & my country? I thought about your question because I felt it was a good point to reflect on, I put my thought`s forward & bared some of my private feelings..........You said you really wanted to know, you have yet to acknowledge my answer.

But that is what you do best.....ask question`s , create a fuss then run away,lay low for a bit hoping people forget you as usual are stuck on stupid.

The high yeller is running for President. He better have an F'ing lot more experience than the one running for VP. Can't say that in this case. Notice how the libs/socialists/dims don't want to compare McCain's credentials to Obamalamadingdong. Because they can't. The messiah has nothing of experience to tout.

DanS, on the sauce again huh? Bummer.

Dkelsmith-

Experience! Now there is a subject to talk about. Obama has experience as a talker, Palin has experience as a doer. Obama is an experienced theorist, Palin, as someone who has held executive positions, is an experienced decider. Obama has experience following the party line, Palin has experience going against the party line. Obama has experienced the company of America hating radicals and socialists, Palin has experienced the company of real Americans who are working, producing and defending America.

There’s all kinds of experience. What kind matters to you.

@ Ray

The high yeller? Wow....

Everybody who thinks the "experience" bullshit matters, STFU and read Patrick's commment. Also, Palin's dealt with the real issues of life that the average American citizen faces daily. And these Libtards that jump on the pregnant daughter bandwagon are all of the same cloth - they refuse to look in the mirror, much less have their closets cleaned...before they remove the toothpick from their opponent's eye, they need to remove the utility pole from their own. As if getting pregnant and giving birth out of wedlock was a big deal to begin with...how much have some of those clowns paid to keep the news of their offspring's 'adventures' out of the media? Too bad McRINO's the lead dog here, this gal's got it goin' on!!

I admit I was not familiar with Palin before the announement, and I am only reading about her since she was given the nod. Getting back to what I stated before, her experience is limited. Does that mean she couldn't handle the job if she were thrust into that position due to something unfortunate happening to McCain. I am not saying that experience is not important, but having a vision and a general methodology is important. In the military we say, "Plan your work, then work your plan." I am looking forward to hearing what both of the nominees and their V.P hopefuls have to say. Obama has been "specifically vague" until now. The debates are going to be telling I think.

Anybody else notice that OUR crowd looks a HELLUVA lot nicer than THEIR crowd ?!? Seems like all the people at the Libtard convention last week had that "Perpetually Pissed" look they typically have. "High Yeller" indeed ! Ain't heard THAT one in a long time....-Unca Sandy

Dkelsmith-

Since you believe that having a vision and methodology is important (I don't disagree, just question the vision) you will put your money where your mouth is and read Thomas Sowell's "The Vision of the Anointed". It is an excellent primer on vision and methodology.

I will look into it, Art.

To all:

I haven't had a drop of the sauce for over 3 weeks now! I'm back at work & happier than ever.

Good for you, Dan ! -Sandy G.

DanS- I've been laying off too. two glasses of cab in the last month. not bad for a catholic!! I've also lost 23 lbs. I had it to spare.

Alaska has a greater population than Dick Cheney's home state and borders two countries. I believe Alaska trades with Canada and Pacific Rim countries and has offices abroad.

High: " adjective; elevated in pitch"
yeller: " noun, one who yells, shouts"

Seems to fit Jugears perfectly. Why must most libtards insist on creative meanings for ordinary words i.e. niggardly: "grudgingly mean about spending or granting"?

Handlers? I suppose you think that the big sister-palm-licking-baby-hair-smoothing was staged? Real family, real problems, real roll-up-your-sleeves experience in governing. Her "handlers" do little more than keep her from ripping liberal idiots to shreds.

Dan, glad to hear life is going well for your. Really, I am glad for you.

dkelsmith, I'm the kind of person that just calls a spade a spade I guess (oops, is that acceptable now a days). As for the experience stuff, I don't know if I posted it on this thread or another, but my argument is why are we comparing Palins experience (which really do outshine those of the messiah) for qualifications for VP, to the candidate running for President. I'm sorry, but the one running for President should have experience that is exponentially more than the VP slot. This is definitely not the case here.

Patrick - 23 lbs. lost? WOW! Congratulations. I won't snigger at that. ;-)

@ Ray,

No Ray, there is nothing unacceptable about using that phrase. There is nothing racist about the word "spade" in any way. What is unacceptable is that you deliberately make it a point to behave in a hateful way regardless of the fact that I haven't been disrespectful to you. Of course I would expect nothing less from the guy who "hoped that I would have a shitty Christmas" before I deployed. Not because I slandered you, or made an off color remark...simply because I was a Democrat. What was it you told me? "We're taking you motherfuckers out?" and some other chest-thumping about the war because the assumption is that I am a cowardly, America-hating pansy simply because of my voter registration.

But aside from all of that, I think that optimally the candidate for POTUS should have more experience than the vice. I have no problem admitting that, I don't ramble or talk in circles for the sole purpose of not conceding a point. As always, I wish BOTH sides would do this...perhaps we wouldn't have the issues we do nowadays if we could cut to the business at hand and dispense with all of the needless bickering.

Thanks, Ron for mentioning Alaska's trading experience with Canada. I googled on the subject. WOW!

It's dumbfounding that people would minimize the importance of governing Alaska. It's even been called a "backwater" state on another thread!!!! Alaska has a rich, active and growing trading tradition with many countries. The State of Alaska is essential to Canada. The numbers, in the two-way-trade with my country, are astounding.

Isn't it sad that some Americans, for political reasons, would snigger at one of their newest and most fantastic State, to put down its Governor, and doubt her abilities and experiences.

Don't they love their country from coast to coast? Don't they know their country from coast to coast?

Dkelsmith,

Two questions. 1) Where in the above high yeller comment I made did I act "hatefully" (your word,not mine) to your previous comment?

2) I for the life of me don't recall what you are referring to regarding the "shitty Christmas" and "taking you Motherfuckers" out comment. If you can find it, please direct me to it. If I knew you were military at the time you wrote it, I can't believe I would have shown any disrespect to you at all as part of my philosophy is to honor those that serve. Even if you are on the other side of the isle and I disagree with your politics, I respect what you and all the other military folks do for us. That being said, I would appreciate it if you could find or more specifically find my quotes as I don't recall either. If you haven't confused me with someone else, then I will owe you an apology.
Ray

I liked Palins speach last night I was on another site earlier where they were discusing her and one lady posted this.I was wondering what your answer to it would be...
here it is..
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I would have liked to have heard from her instead of her speech writer. I would have also been much more impressed without the all the sarcastic/smartass remarks. It seems that's all she had to say. Here are some interesting facts:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.

Some examples:

PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."

THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."

THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.

PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."

THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.

He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.

MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.

THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.

MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.

THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.

FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."

THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.

FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."

THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

Ray,

There were no specific words that were hateful, but while I am not the person that looks for racism or outrage under every stone or make much ado about an innocuous statement in order to claim 'victim'. I am also well familiar with blacks being called, "spades" as a derogatory term. This was more of a thing that was done during my grandparents time than now, but it seems like it was a subject you wanted to broach. Your question about whether or not that was "acceptable" is a wink and a nod toward that whole tired game of rhetoric which has nothing to do with the matter at hand. Referring to Obama as an Oreo or High Yeller, or any number things seems to indicate that ideological differences notwithstanding, the most noteworthy thing to criticize him about is his origin.

Unless there is another Ray that comments on here all of the time then I am not mistaken. I understand that the rules of decorum on this site are stated quite plainly and you ask for what you get when you log on, is it so simple to answer or debate with all of this foolishness? Especially when I can't recall ever being nasty to anyone here.

Newt slamming a MSNBC reporter over the expierence thing.... http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/9/Newt-Gingrich-Slams-Reporter-Ron-Allen-About-Sarah-Palin-566281.html

That is funny mary lee
I just ead that identical post, word for word on another blog based out of Seattle. Word for word??? What is the soarce of your propaganda?
I call bull shit on you.

Ray,

I owe you an apology, I started looking back and the event in question happened here.

http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/cgi-bin/obscurecomments.cgi?entry_id=2778

As you can see, the exchange was with a guy named Paul. Doesn't rhyme with or look like Ray, but somehow I managed to stick that to you. I don't know how I attributed that to you. I am sorry, I wrongly accused you of something you didn't say.

Jay Leno put it best -
"We now have a beauty contestant that can actually do something about world peace"
Enjoyed her speech last night.

At least the other asshat had the ethics to credit the author of the bile.
By the way, I read the post rather than ead it.

Chuck I did not say I wrote it I said I read it on another site and wanted to know what reply some would have for it.

and if you took the time to read the beginning of what I said then you would have read that I llked her speach..I was asking about what I had read.

Guess that I was so perturbed by the end that I forgot the beginning. Damn Grampa part of me.
Personal responsibility. I must apologise. Sorry.
In the words of a great (but dead) American.
Never mind.

YOU SAID "as far as giving the other {asshat} "you need spell check" had the ethics to credit the author of the bile."

If it is not true why would I want to give the asshole credit for anything all I was doing was looking for facts

YOUR FORGIVEN..

ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ

Might be one definition. There is another.

I'm gonna take the low road here. Comparatively, Palin does not have a wealth of experience. She has enough to establish a track record though, and the fact that she was willing to buck the party establishment is proven, AND she won doing it even when opposed. She started off by cleaning house, another plus for her. Sure she only has two years experience, but by the time she saddles up to run for potus, she will have at minimum six years, and possibly ten.
Obama started out with a good chant. No message, just a lot of rhetoric, and he sounded good. It ended there though. If the guy was all about change, his policies would have been diffrent from HRCs stuff, instead it boiled down to same message, but are you sexist or racist?
What the dems have in Obamanation is an entitlement baby. He did not get there by being good, having novel ideas, or accomplishing a lot. The sum total of his federal experience is getting elected, and immediately starting his run for the oval office. There is as much substance to Obamanation as there is to a soap bubble. He is asking us to put his spineless socialist ass in the hot seat when he has never been willing to fan the fire.
He is like so many affirmative action promos I have seen, elevated solely on the color of his skin not the substance of his character, or the depth of his achievement. Can anyone tell me anything substantial the man has done?
He, like so many other people I have seen elevated because of skin color rather then achievement will not advance the cause of blacks but harm it. It appears that if he is selected, his sole achivement wil be to make Jimmah Crudder the second worst president in history. The racists will point to him, win or lose as evidence that blacks are not fit for high office, and that is the crime of his nomination. He will cast mud on people like Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice, people who rose inspite of their skin color not because of it. The black community can be proud of him, but he will shame them. Better to advance people of substance, and the black community has them, rather then to settle for a byproduct of the Chicago machine.
Democrats, in selecting him, have behaved as badly as racist corporations forced by affirmative action to employ blacks and elevate them to management positions.
As to Palin, she brings a maverick status not unlike McCains own to the platform. They have the opportunity to shake the party without harming it as would a moderate republican like Giuliani or Ridge. The message to the republican establishment if they are elected is clear, clean up your act, trim the budget, stop earmarks and cut waste.

if anyone is still reading this, i've got to say that is the first political speech i've enjoyed in awhile.

the dem speeches just make the skin crawl, and the repubs say the things you want to hear, but then given the last eight years, you know you can't believe 'em.

palin said a lot of the things i want to hear, and backed them with her (granted somewhat limited, but real) executive experience. it was refreshing.

and she ain't too hard on the eyes. speaking of eyes, her glasses appear to be clear - are they, like lipstick on a pit bull, purely for effect?

i'm looking forward to the debates.

mary lee - heres a thought on that. any time you read a quote from the fvcking brookings institute think: Kremlin, socialist, commisars, and castro. This article quotes one of the most leftist thinktanks and acts like they are down the middle.

To all the dims: the election is over. Thanks for playing.

Bring on the debates! I can't fucking wait for this shit! Better stock up on some beer and popcorn, cause this is gonna be great!

CD, the debates don't interest me, because the libs/dims/socialists always refuse to accept the Republicans suggestion of having town hall type, no holds barred debates. This would be awesome, because without pre written scripts and forced to think and answer for themselves, it's a known fact Dims can't do it. You want to see a smack down and the true nature of the Dimocratic leadership put in the spotlight? Have a town hall debate with no planted questions and know knowledge by the candidates of the questions they will be asked. JugEars will struggle without a telepromter written answer.