Interesting day so far at my office this morning in that the first three clients started talking politics. Now this usually never happens, and I NEVER initiate it for fear of angering and losing my "more liberal" clients (which thankfully seem few and far between). Anyway, all three said, in different ways, they can't believe how dumbed down the general public has become to the point that they are voting for a socialist without 1) realizing it or 2) caring. All three also said the same thing. They think what this country needs is another Carter. They said it took Carter to get Reagan, and maybe that's what we need. They all also commented how IF the magical negroe gets elected and then there's a Dimocratic/socialist/lib super congress, the press will be FORCED to blame all the problems of the world on them and can no longer blame their scapegoat, Bush and friends. So, should the morons of our country vote for the Messiah, we can go no lower, and we will truly see what the bottom of the barrel voters and their respective government officials are really made of.

This reminds me of 1966 or 1967 as a kid, we moved to Smyrna, GA. I had no idea why there were so many "Impeach Earl Warren" signs all over the place. Today, I understand.

My husband had a very good point: How can Obama take the oath of office without sprouting horns? He doesn't uphold the Constitution, he wants to dismantle it!

Socialism 101....

The really sad point which really pissed me off is.....My daughter is an Obamniac, delegate & local Captain for the Obama campaign out in Colorado.

I E-mailed the info of Obama`s socialist speech on the Radio interview......My daughter said she really did not think he was a Socialist but even if he was there was nothing she could do as she had already voted sometime ago.

There is too much tampering with the voting process. This allows for untold fraud. How could our representative`s ever buy into this & why do we accept it.

What is the purpose of having an election day if everybody can vote when the individual States allow early voting prior to the traditional voting day.

So basically if there is some sort of November surprise or the MSM decides to start reporting fairly, and people have a change of heart for their candidate of choice, it's too bad so sad huh? Might explain why he hasn't had a press conference in over a month.

B. Hussein Obama is just so WRONG on so MANY counts!!

Nothing else concerns me more with an Obama presidency that his appointing 2, 3 or more Supreme Court Justices.

At least the guy in on record telling what type of justices he would appoint.

False voters, Obamamania, everyone buying into Palin being a bubblehead. I've had people yell at me that she is an idiot when I try to have a real discourse on her accomplishments. Bring up Obama's lack of any accomplishments and they just poo-poo it like there is no point to be made.

There are way fewer smart people that dumb. Face it, we're fucked.

Denny.....

What I find amazing is given the clear Socialist position this rat bastard has & the probability of a veto-proof Senate & Congress made up of left wing liberals with the same ideas supporting his agenda, why more people have not came to an understanding for the danger this Country is in.

When I post of pending Liberal plan`s which are under serious discussion, I am told I am preaching McVeigh like conspiratorial ideas.I`ll ask the regulars again, do you now see the danger more clearly? Do you now realize it can happen given the ignorance of the average American voter & a dedicated Socialist agenda by a Government comprised of freely elected but committed Liberals who in reality are Socialists?

I remember full well the discussions I had with Socialist Sally on this topic...........She laughed at the idea but I wonder if she has now been able to see the light as the idea of a full blown Liberal becoming President is going to happen complete with a willing legislative branch to assist in implementation of Obama`s Socialist system.

I am certainly not a Winston Churchill but I do understand the frustration he must have felt when so many who should have known better chose not to listen when the truth is right in front of them to be seen & understood.

I have always said I trust no politician , we must be the guardians of our own freedom , to be vigilant & make sure our elected official`s serve us & never gain the power to demand we serve them.

I have no illusions for a transformation by TDHO or those like her as she is clearly to stupid & would willingly be led to the gallow`s as long as she were hung with a new rope. I also do not expect Dans to comprehend either as he is a raving moonbat most of the time. It is the rest of the regulars I hope will fully recognize what is coming & be prepared to speak out.

dudley1 - Too many of this country are busy watching American Idol. I would not be surprised if a bunch of voters think Jug Hussein Ears is David Palmer.

Denny: Karl has a plan. Maybe we can make it go viral. It will take some risk and determination to make it happen.

Just remember, the election is next week. Maybe we all just ought to get our asses out and vote.
The commie bastards have not won yet. They may not win if we get all of our right thinking friends and family (and ourselves) out to vote.

"There are way fewer smart people that dumb. Face it, we're fucked."

Denny's trolls are prime example of this.

Dudley, I think it may have been I that made the McVeigh reference and I didn't mean to offend if I did. I just have more faith in the system (not so much the people participating in it at the moment). Therefore, I find it extremely difficult (and maybe it's more wishful thinking than an actual knowledge of the system's workings) to believe that one administration can systematically tear apart the foundations from what our great society has been built on. I have to believe (again, wishful thinking?) that like my clients earlier in the day said "We need a Carter to get a Reagan". Yup, if the magical negro gets elected, things are certainly going to get F'ed up, there's no two ways about it. But I believe the Repub that would inevitably follow him would fix the problems lickity split. I have to believe in that cause if I didn't, I'd be like Alec Baldwin and making plans to move out of this country in the next few months. And unlike Alec and the other libtards, if I said I was moving out of the country, you better believe I'd move.
Ray

I am seriously, no-shit scared by the implications of this election. I fear the worst is inevitable. I have given some thought to what I can do when the shit hits the fan. Moving out of the country was one topic of thought.

Problem is, I can't think of a single place to move to that doesn't constitute jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I guess I'll just stay here and cling to my guns...

Gloom and doom some more why don't you?

You know, I wonder what administration caused such a monumental shift in nation's politics in 8 little years?

Oh yeah. George W. Bush.

I can't believe you all are bitching about Obama non stop without realizing the real reason we're looking at President Obama with a 60 seats in the Senate and 30-50 seat majority in the house. And that's the colossal failure of George Bush.

How exactly is Obama regarded as a "big spender" when Bush has been the biggest spending president in history?

How is Obama so communist when the current administration pushed through the biggest socialist bill since the New Deal?

To Willie:

It's actually pretty fair that Obama gets to appoint 2-3 justices, b/c the left leaning judges are the ones due to retire. Stevens and Ginsberg will probably announce their retirement as soon as he is elected.

It will keep the balance of the court. I can't really see Obama doing any worse than trying to get his personal lawyer appointed, or making a freshman justice Chief.

The reason why judges are appointed for life is to ensure that one side doesn't completely stack the court all at once.

BTW: there is no carter analogy working here. The GOP situation looks bleak at best.

The 2010 Senate races have 19 GOP defending and 15 Dems defending, so if the Dems don't get to 60 now, they'll have a great shot in 2010.

You're going to have a fight to the death for the soul of the party between the evangelical base who want Sarah Palin to run in 2012, and the business moderates who believe she partly lost the election.

The danger is that Palin can win a primary, but she would get trounced in a general election.

Maybe somewhere in that mess, you'll actually find a true conservative. Because the only one I've seen this election cycle was Ron Paul, and he's almost nuts.

-RP

DanS. is a 'raving moonbat' because He --(like you, now) saw, felt, knew, predicted, raged-against, warned, and sluffed (sloughed)-off the brickbats & the slings and arrows and learned early-on the lesson that 'absolute power corrupts absolutely'.

When your side had all of the above going on for itself, my side was marginalized (and that is a mighty kind remark by me for some remarkable contributors here); --now, it's your side's time to 'understand'.

Assuming a President Obama a week from now, I think you are going to find a Class-A fighter trying to do right by you and by me. That will not be an easy task, but I'm confident, that at base, his focus will be on that which unites us all rather than pander to that which polarizes us. That's where you come in.

More to say over the next 4 years, but I want to close by stating that anyone still judging the content and character of a person based solely on skin color is a twit.

BTW: Can you share with me the appropriate acronym that I might now charge you with? I believe I'm known as a "BDS". "ASS" (Angry Simplistic Southerner) is out. "Barack Derangement Syndrome" could be in but would cause confusion. "PORKER" (Pissed-Off Republican Know-nothing Expecting Redemption) is too long, too inclusive/exclusive & also seems harsh and counter-productive.

In 5 letters or less, what is it exactly that deranges you about President Obama? Maybe "BODS"?

I'd like to look forward to one day charging one of you with suffering from BODS.

:)

Dan, it is not the bastards skin color that we dislike. It is his fucking communist politics. Even if I was a racist I would still vote for a black man if his ideology agreed with mine. Do you get it? Just so you understand, I thought Michael Jordan was a pretty good basketball player. If he had some latino blood, he would of made a pretty good baseball player.

DanS.....

The only way Barack will be a Class A fighter for me is if I become a Muslim & am adopted by a Black family. Yes, you are a raving moonbat not because you saw,felt,knew,predicted,warned or sloughed off arrow`s brickbats or whatever. You are a raving moonbat because you are crazier then a bedbug & have sold your country down the drain to champion a Socialist.

What is particulary telling of course it is all Bush`s fault.....you had to step over the wreckage & carnage caused by the Democrat`s responsible for the Oversight of the Banking Industry , The Democrats who from day one have lied, villified & in many cases committed treason to work against this administration in order to arrive at this conclusion.

I am 67 years old & in my lifetime I have never seen one political party go so towards treason to dishonor or to work against a seated President as have the Democrats to George Bush. In a situation where we were attacked by Muslim terrorists , the Democrats aided by their allies the Liberal media have savaged Bush,lied at every turn , provided aid & comfort to our enemies & added greatly to the pressure that a seated President must bear. What you & other fool`s like you have not noticed is he still did his job, kept his cool under that pressure & unwarrented attacks by your chosen hero`s with their day to day treachery. There has not been a terrorist attack onto the American heartland since 9/11.....you apparently fail to recognize that either.

I have no illusions as to whether Bush made mistakes or failed his conservative base because he did. I , Denny & many others have pointed out his failings , where he went wrong & what he & the Republican Party could & should have done to make right the mess they & he made on many issues.

This is the difference between those on my side of the political equation, we put honor ,duty & country first & point out when our Republican representation screws up & demand they be removed.

On the other hand , You & those like you look the other way when your liberal hero`s screw up or commit acts of treachery, treason, dishonesty & put their selfish interests first, Hell, you even glorify them ...Think Swimmer, Barney Frank, Lying Joe Biden, Clinton & a host of other human garbage but to now blind yourself to the Socialist aspirations of Barach Obama surrounded by Terrorists, Thieves & Anti American activists border`s on abject stupidity.

The really sad thing DanS is you revel in & glorify the damage which is going to occur under an Obama Presidency. I do not know what drives your idiocy but it sure as hell is not patriotism , intelligence or common sense.

I do not expect any recognition from you for the folly of your ignorant decisions. You are indeed a foolish person when it comes to politics & I expect you will continue on with your raving moonbat attitude & applied stupidity.

Aside to Ray...you may have more faith in the system then do I ,but having been at this longer then you, recognize lunatics like DanS trump the system everytime when they vote inept liberals or in this case Socialists to the Presidency or the legislature.

Damn, dudley...you rock! You said that a helluva lot more eloquently than I ever could. My response would've been laced with many four-letter words. :)

It would have been nice to have seen what the Iraqi war could have been like if the media hadn't so utterly & totally condemned every single aspect of it, & of George Bush...I just would have liked to have seen Bush gotten treated FAIRLY on a few things, instead of the relentless, never ending criticism he endured...Of course, the Majical Negroe will never know any of what Bush had to go thru, as he is able to walk on water, & any criticism of him at all is RACIST...

I am somewhere between Ray's clients and Dudley1. I think that a large % of people in this country want to believe that Obama is some kind of magic pill. Indeed he is well spoken and has charisma and thats as far as they care to go.

The United States is strong at its very core. We have relative transparency compared to the rest of the world, we have property rights that are better then most, we lack deep seated and long tenured racial, religious, or culturally clashing groups, and we have opportunity to move up and down the class system. The main problem the way I see it is that America now views "privileges" as "entitlements". Retirement is a privilege earned. So is health care, a nice house, a car and a plumber. Our populace wants to hear that they are rights. they want a magic pill. They are getting a halfrican bowl of warm air.

I believe that if Obama truly tries to govern from the far left, the core of this country will turn against him and he will wind up emasculated, impotent, or worse. Clinton saw the writing on the wall and moved to the middle. Obama will do same or stay left at his own peril

Now, like Willie, I am most concerned about the judges. In life we are steeled by hard times and overcoming difficulty. Those born around 1910 - 1925 did not have an entitlement mentality. They knew how the shit worked. Their kids born between 1930 1945 were indoctrinated quickly, frequently and effectively. after that it waned.

I wonder if we are going to go through another such tough time. I fear we might and I fear this election will accelerate the pain. If I am wrong and he is black Jesus then I will dance among the lilacs with Robin Palm, Dan S, his hippie wife with a "TDO was right t shirt on" admiting I was wrong..........hope thats the case. really doubt it.

DanS

what is so "unifying" about someone who votes "present," and never votes against his party? why is unifying such a wonderful ideal?

if either of the two candidates unify, it would be mccain (that's why all you libs wanted him to be the repub nominee-NYTimes backed him and all that). he's voted and spoken out against his party many times and "reached across the aisle."

i hate him for it, but if that is what you think we need in a president, you are voting for the wrong candidate.

but, then, logic has always been so hard to the left leaning of this country.

btw, thanks for a somewhat coherent post. we lost you again for a few weeks with your rants. much better this way.

respectfully, and all that, Pip.

and to answer your question (though you clearly meant something else):

"In 5 letters or less, what is it exactly that deranges you about President Obama?"

mrxst [Can i buy two vowels: a, i. ] -- (ie. marxist).
couldn't make socialist anywhere near 5 letters.

Pip

DanS - I have no problem with Jug Hussein Ear's skin color. There are many black politicians that I would be happy to support. JC Watts and Michael Steele are but two of them. These two have been branded by your fellow travelers on the left as Oreos or Uncle Toms. I do have a problem with his politics. He is a rat bastard commie.

I'll go out on a limb here:

I'll bet you almost anything that one funny-named "magical negroe" learned the lessons you wanted him to learn from President Carter and President Clinton. I'll further bet he learned the lessons of the various Bush Administration's as well.

I'll bet you BHO's entire first term is devoted not to domestic issues dear to me but to solving the economic issues so dear to your heart.

I'll further posit that eventually you will begrudgingly come to finally admit that he accomplishes that mission; -without benefit of fakey carrier-landings and staged-theatrics.

Barack Obama is throughly, completely, a Man of both the People and Of His Times ...; -OUR times ... -these times.

And to think I DIDN'T vote for Obama!!!!!

There is absolute glee in my heart at seeing how some of you ascribed something to me, without benefit of fact, something that was not and is not true. What makes it even sweeter is your rationale for your conviction that I did.

Deranged, am I? Perhaps! I think it comes from trying always to find the common-ground.

It's a dirty job, pay's not much & thank's is even less; The God of my Understanding -an inclusive God rather than a retributive God- assures me daily that I'm doing the work he wants done.

So who am I to argue? "My arms are too short to box with God".

I tell you true: hate and fear and innuendo coupled to psuedo-knowledge gets you exactly nowhere. In fact, it got us to where we are today. Hopefully, John S. McCain and Sarah Palin will give some voice to this on 5 November 2008.

Yeah, that would be Wednesday next.

President Obama will pick it up from there.

dudley1:

"There has not been a terrorist attack onto the American heartland since 9/11.....you apparently fail to recognize that either."

Yeah, Correct! There wasn't one prior to 9/11 either!

Wanna comment further 'bout what I do & do not recognize?

Umm...Dan, is your memory about as long as my weenis?

How about 1993 at the WTC?
How about 1995 at the Murrah Federal Building by Tim McVeigh?
How about 1996 at the Olympics in Atlanta?

Have a look.

Daryl:

What's this "we"-stuff?

You can't speak for yourself?

"They" need 'you' to speak for 'them'?

MJ is, was and will always be an Amazing basketball-player! You now mean to tell me he is Black? I'm here to say that the showers post-game have only winners and losers.

What does 'race' have to do with anything?

Maybe you meant to say 'cultural'?; If so, that's not the case you make.

MiketheRadioMan:

Look at the context the original-comment was offered in.

Actually, I suspect my memory is far longer than your 'weenis'. :) Trust me on this, You wouldn't want it the other way around.

Far as I know, OKC and ATL had nothing to do with Middle-Eastern terrorist's or terrorism. Nor did Columbine or Kent State. Wounded Knee comes to mind but does not fit within the framework offered by the original post. Maybe Waco?

So, what exactly is that political-claim supposed to mean? The one about no 'terrorist-attacks' since 9/11? No more airplanes-used-as-weapons since then? Damn! By that logic, President George W. Bush ought to be re-elected for a 3rd term simply because he uses drones, stand-off weapons and other UAV's.

Again, someone mentions Obama appointing Supreme Court Justices without mentioning the fact that he's most likely going to be replacing the two most liberal justices on the court, Stevens and Ginsberg.

Uh, dudley, I'm not sure where you get your news from, but every justification for starting the Iraq War from the Bush administration was proven to be untrue.

1. Iraq had WMD's. FALSE
2. Iraq had connections to 9/11. FALSE
3. Iraq had ties to Al Queda. FALSE.

My problem with Bush is that he's not even conservative. He cuts taxes and goes to war. He's says he's for small government, and creates a cabinet level administration. He talks about free market, but nationalizes the banks.

And by the way, the whole economic crisis started when the housing bubble burst on the McMansion market. It has very little to do with poor people getting bad loans. People on this site want to blame the fair credit act for "Affirmative Action" in lending. But it has nothing to do with poor black people. It has everything to do with middle class white people getting million dollar homes in gated communities. It's bad loans and bad business and coupled with the deregulation in 1999 by the Leach Bailey Act, which then spread from the housing market to other financial sectors.

That's why the housing markets in CA, FL, and DC were hit the hardest. You don't see stories about foreclosure in the ghetto. They are still renting.

I also want to give fair credit and due praise to President Roosevelt and the Democrat party for keeping the United States safe from Japanese surprise attacks since Pearl Harbor.

DanS, I'll do ya the honor of assuming you actually believe the stuff you post.

What eludes me is the combination of drugs, environmental toxins and physical abuse that could produce that much brain damage and still allow you to type.

You're a freakin' medical miracle, that's what.

"I have no problem with Jug Hussein Ear's skin color"

Nor do most people. Many of us just have a problem with people voting for him because of it. No one wants to talk about that though because it's high time a "person of color" (insert laugh here) is running for the most powerful position on the planet.

RP, your logic of the housing market crash is incorrect. You need to do some more checking into it. Yes, the people you refer to (middle class) bear some of the blame, but it's these same people, according to the magical Negro, that he's going to help out in these times of need. So by your logic, in conjunction with the socialist, not only did these people cause the economy to have a hiccup, but they are also going to be rewarded with my hard earned money. Nope, makes no sense.

Dan, because you brought up the plurality in your post, I was merely responding in kind. Also, you brought up racism, not I.

I was going to comment last night, but thought better of it.

The reporters, some of them, actually have some of it right.

It's called the blame game and you can focus on which ever party you want and you will be right because BOTH parties are responsible for the good and bad this country is looking at.

Same goes for the people who are the abusers of the systems. Rich, poor, of color or not...all are responsible for the mess we are in.

In my humble opinion, we have had it to easy in this life of ours and we have always looked the other way when things were going well. Never admitting that at some point the piper was going to come and want his payment. But he shows up now and then and asks for partial payment and when he does we start it all over again....the blame game that is.

Only thing I am going to say now is maybe, just maybe, you are all right and you are all wrong.

Think about it folks.

DanS......

I`ll try to make it a little more plain for you....

Socialism is the enemy of the Capitalistic form of government we have in the United States. It is a system which does not allow the freedom of choice or ability to work hard & amass wealth as does capitalism that has created here the greatest & strongest Nation to have ever existed on this earth.

Obama as a believer of & champion for Socialist program`s which take choice & privilege from the people to make the central Government supreme is also an enemy. Obama does not believe in America as a free representative Republic as our founder`s created or the constitution which govern`s & protect`s it. He is dedicated to changing America to a Socialist state.

There was a time when differences between Republicans & Democrats did not involve the destruction of American Democracy which is what socialism will accomplish. At one time there could be a difference of opinion or choice but the representatives of both parties held the constitution to be sacred not a collection of negative right`s.

For you to ignore the historic truth of this Country & what it stands for & attempt to convince people that know better Obama will work to maintain & protect the traditional United States as conceived by our founder`s is ridiculous. You are not believable , you are lying to yourself when you say this.

I believe in knowing who or what my Enemies really are.I cannot in good conscience tolerate those who would destroy what I believe in. My mother had a saying .......He who plays with rattlesnakes will get bit. Obama is a snake & so is his political philosophy.

One other point I will call you on ...you post Obama is a Man of the times for all of us , you have promoted him since day one & to now post you didn`t vote for him is Bullshit......At least have the courage of your convictions & do not lie about your choices. A conscious choice to lie establish`s you really know you are wrong.

Because of people like you , addle-brained students, bums & drifters on park benchs, welfare recipients & liberal socialist democrats Obama will most likely become President of the United State but he will never be my President. I am a patriotic American who believes in this country & never will support those who would bring ruin to this Nation.

Robin Palm......

I am not going to rehash the Iraqi war forever but to ignore the fact Chemical munition`s both marked & unmarked were found , at least 500 at last count plus multiple phosgene & sarin traces in various storage facilities does establish these munitions were there. What is missing here is where they are now.

Saddam did not have direct ties to 9/11 this is true but he did fund activities which were tied to terrorist groups.

Saddam did allow training facilities for some of the AlQueda elements on Iraqi soil & he did provide funding & logistical support as well.

As to the real reason for the invasion ....I think it was to provide a central base of operations for our forces , the UN sanctions as well as WMDS provided cover for the operation to proceed ....so what!..... are you going to tell me Saddam should have been left alone? If he had complied with the sanctions & emulated Quaddafi he would still be in power & probably have recieved most favored trading status with the United States.

The real reason in truth for the invasion was Saddam was to loose of a cannon to be left alone.

Dee.....I like & respect your comments but sooner or later you have to come to grips with a choice has to be made. Good luck with your decision.

Saddam did not have direct ties to 9/11 this is true

a VP who is a liar, and a daughter who support a "magical Negroe".

Man! that is a tough week !

Prosper.......

I see you just had to stick your nose in again......I guess I`ll just have to resolve my daughter`s foolishness the French way......Send me [1] acme sports model head chopping machine.

You're right, OKC and ATL had nothing to do with Middle-Eastern terrorists. But it was terrorism nonetheless. Wounded knee, Kent State and Waco were massacres. Columbine was a massacre as well, but the difference btween them is that Columbine was perpetrated by a couple of wackos looking for a thrill or their 15 minutes of shame. Wounded Knee, Kent State and Waco were unfortunate escalations to violence. That violence could have been avoided, however. Humans are emotional creatures and their emotions got the best of them rather than reasoning their way through in all three. Not to mention Wounded Knee was particularly horrible, as the government sought to totally disarm the people first to make them more "compliant".

"So, what exactly is that political-claim supposed to mean? The one about no 'terrorist-attacks' since 9/11? No more airplanes-used-as-weapons since then? Damn! By that logic, President George W. Bush ought to be re-elected for a 3rd term simply because he uses drones, stand-off weapons and other UAV's."

If that's your logic, then you're seriously fucked up. Any further plots to commit terrorist acts have been thwarted (e.g. Richard Reid, Jose Padilla) since 9/11. And thankfully, the 22nd Amendment prohibits the current President from a 3rd term. Yet another thing that seperates us from the socialists. Freedom to choose...but maybe not for long...

I was wondering : did you a raise a perfect moron or a rat bastard traitor ?

last possibility : a thoughtfull young lady who must force her father to reconsider his premature and excessive judgments ?

What do you think ?

(take your time, just breathe)

"In my humble opinion, we have had it to easy in this life of ours and we have always looked the other way when things were going well."

Dee, I agree with your opinion on that 100%. Our current society really doesn't know what it is to sacrifice for things. To many a sacrifice is having to live with only one car, or not enough money to get cable. Oooh, life sucks because of that. Get real. Of this we agree. We have been riding high in this country on a booming economy and great technological advances, but as you say, there's comes a cost associated with these things and that's what we are seeing now. People just need to put their chin up, work a little harder than they did, do without some things (hell, I was supposed to go get a new Iphone today, but I'm going to postpone that decision for a little while) and things will get better again. Unless there's a rat commie bastard in the house of course :)

Robin:

You damn well know better than to repeat a base canard like that.

Uh, dudley, I'm not sure where you get your news from, but every justification for starting the Iraq War from the Bush administration was proven to be untrue.

1. Iraq had WMD's. FALSE
2. Iraq had connections to 9/11. FALSE
3. Iraq had ties to Al Queda. FALSE.

Actually, the sole justification was the 18 UNSC resolutions demanding the use of force for the failure to abide by the cease-fire agreements.

1) True.
You're flat wrong.
Halabja. For a man with no WMDs, sure a shitload of people got killed by them. To claim that a country that has openly used WMDs, never had them is utterly contemptuous.
Furthermore, the WMDs found and marked by the UN Weapons Inspectors in their stymied (in defiance of cease-fire regulations) up to 1998 measured in the hundreds of tons.

Where did it go, Robin?

And that's aside from the yellowcake recovered, the sarin, and the hundreds of tons of "pesticide" stored on military bases in Iraq.

2. Define "connections". If you mean any involvement, then that's true, too. Several of the hijackers crossed through Iraq and had Iraqi stamps in their passports. If you mean "connection" as in "set up and backed", no. But that ties in with 3.

3. Guess what? You're wrong again. Saddam's emissaries had met several times with Bin Ladin, among others, and they had a decent appreciation for each other. There were Al Queda terrorists sheltered in Iraq before 9/11, and there was logistical support from Saddam to Al Queda.

Al Queda was a weapon against the US, Saddam would hardy have passed up helping them if he could.

And by the way, the whole economic crisis started when the housing bubble burst on the McMansion market. It has very little to do with poor people getting bad loans.

Riiiiiiiight.

Robin, the reason it's called a "bubble?" Things start from the bottom. People were approved at all levels for loans that were insane.
Starting with the most credit-risky. So they bought houses in more affluent areas, who then moved on up themselves.

Very few of the "McMansions" were financed with "interest-only" loans. A lot of the subprime borrowers in neighborhoods around me were.

People on this site want to blame the fair credit act for "Affirmative Action" in lending. But it has nothing to do with poor black people.

Oh, it does. And poor white people. And quite a few illegal Mexican and South Americans.

coupled with the deregulation in 1999 by the Leach Bailey Act, which then spread from the housing market to other financial sectors.

Gee, where have I heard those talking points before...

Leach Bailey allowed companies to get into various markets without going through massive contortions to do so. It wasn't really deregulation as in, removing tons of regulation, merely allowing "Banks" to also invest.

Funny thing... The Democrats insisted on an expansion of the CRA for their support for Leach Bailey......

It's actually pretty fair that Obama gets to appoint 2-3 justices, b/c the left leaning judges are the ones due to retire. Stevens and Ginsberg will probably announce their retirement as soon as he is elected.

It will keep the balance of the court. I can't really see Obama doing any worse than trying to get his personal lawyer appointed, or making a freshman justice Chief.

The Supreme Court isn't supposed to be "Balanced" between statists and non. It's supposed to decide things purely on Constitutional status. Oh, wait, that keeps getting in the way of Utopia, dammit, we can't have THAT.

That's what was so damn radical about the Warren court - and why Obama thinks it "well, it wasn't that radical" is so telling.
Balance isn't the issue.
And yes, Bush made a bad nomination and then made it up with two excellent ones. Two very respected jurists. Roberts wasn't a "freshman", he's got a lot of experience.

Far more than Warren, who was nominated for Chief Justice without ever spending a day as a judge.

DanS:

I think you are going to find a Class-A fighter trying to do right by you and by me. That will not be an easy task, but I'm confident, that at base, his focus will be on that which unites us all rather than pander to that which polarizes us. That's where you come in.

It'll be the first time he's ever done that, Dan.

He's pandered the rest of his career, and he's never been worried about you.

Of course, if he makes it to the end of his first term - it'll be the longest he's ever held one job.

I felt I had to comment on this subject. Dan S. made a comment about Obama having to address the economy first. Didn't anyone else out there watch 20/20 on the 17th? They actually allowed John Stossel an entire hour to make some points. As a libertarian, I have to agree with most of what was pointed out on his program. He actually had the audacity to interview economists instead of politicians. Politicians make promises they can't possibly keep. They take credit for things they had nothing to do with, and they never accept responsibility for the problems they create. The economy might very well correct itself during an Obama term, but he will have little or nothing to do with it. It will be "We the People" who will do it, not Obama! As the late-great Ludwig von Mises pointed out, in a Capitalist society, the people vote everyday with their wallets.

The best way to improve the economy is let let people keep their money and spend it, thus jump-starting the economy. We don't need bigger government. We need smaller government.

Unix-Jedi, you go dude. Who pee'd in your Cheerios today? Very good posts. I can't thank you enough for the reasons to invade Iraq information. I am so sick and tired of libs/socialist/dims and the pacifists bitching about our reasons to be there. They should be asking why we weren't there 7 years earlier. It's kind of like my wife disciplining our daughter. She tells her if she does something wrong, she doesn't get to do something she wants. Well, what does she go and do? She gives her another chance? That's exactly what that crock of an organization known as the UN did umpteen times and I'm glad President Bush gave em the finger and took care of Iraq the way it needed to be taken care of. Mark my word, all other camel jockey countries took note that they wouldn't be messing with us again..........Unless of course we elect the magical negro. He get's along with EVERYONE.

Prosper.....

I`ll not give you opportunity to make sport of me or my daughter through differences in political philosophy. As to the choices she has made ,this is something she will have to deal or be comfortable with. She made a conscious effort to get involved, she succeeded & actually for reasons which are personal to her did achieve a great deal .

I am proud of her desire to try to make a difference but I do differ with certain choices.

As for you attempting to drive a wedge between Father & Daughter to gain some kind of perverse delight....Well I`ll consider the source as being from a likeable French Troll who is in some ways a complete asshole.

No worries, Dudley. I bet Prosper's kids are still fairly young. He has yet to learn that they pretty much have minds of their own and will do what they want once they've reached adulthood. I am sure one of his will do the same to him someday! ;)

I did have the pleasure of having our daughter thank us for not being like the Obama mom she waited on at her workplace. Her child was wearing an Obama tshirt, and our daughter thought it was abhorrent to use children as walking billboards to make their parents' political statements. I don't know how our daughter voted, as it is her personal right - it's called "freedom", Prosper. For all I know, she may have voted for Obama. But, I can hope she did the sensible thing!

Ray,

Thanks for agreeing on something :) and sorry about the Iphone but look at it this way:
Never buy anything brand new, it takes a year to work the bugs out of it and another year to fine tune it. See, there you go, you may get a better one and a better deal by having had to wait.

Dudley,

Thanks, I made my choice and will live with it. Like I said at the beginning I am not happy with either party but a choice had to be made. In my mind it was and still is voting for the lesser of the two evils. Am I right? only time will tell.

Was I wrong? only about one thing I think...and that was believing there were people out there smart enough to put aside their differences and work for the common good. I see a glimmer of that here now and then and that's why I keep coming back. :)

AS for Dudley1's daughter voting for Obama, Churchill had a saying about that that went sumpin' like this: If you are not a liberal in your 20's you have no heart. If you're not a conservative in your 30's you have no brain.

PeggyU, I have members of my familly from the other side of our political chessboard. I'll never call them rat bastards nor traitors.
I even read on this blog that voting for one of your two candidates, democratically proposed to your nation's vote, nullified 16 months of military wartime service.
As far as I'm concerned (which means very little), you're all gone frantic.

You hesitate between : "our country is the strongest the earth has ever seen" and "if one of our two candidates becomes president, our country will collapse".

Quick question Denny : did you have heart in your 20's?

If so, you must have been a rat bastard commy for a bunch of old farts...

Unix-Jedi..posts of the year man.

DanS. I hope and you should hope that Obama does spend his time with the domestic issues close to your heart. I don't want him anywhere near the economy... don't know what those issues are...mandatory late term abortions? partial birth abortions on demand? reparations for anyone 1/16th negro in the form of spinning rims? Have at it.

Prosper-Frog had to prove once more his limited intelligence and his mind's nastiness. He should wash his mouth with soap before crossing the ocean. How I pity his family...

Denny....

I forwarded an E-Mail with a video to you from my daughter in Denver which lays the blame for an Obama loss on just one person ....Me! Her & I both think it is hilarious.

Dudley1 - nothing against you friend, but I hope there is a lot of blame directed your way next week.Hi Claude......a bit concerned about your silence.

Prosper - Sorry. Didn't have a heart in my 20's. I was too busy trying to become a Snotty Rich Fuck.

Denny: Snort! I needed a laugh today ... Prosper-Frog, you should hear some of the names my brothers and I call each other. It would peel the hair off of your hide! Family ... what can I say? Can't sell 'em, so you might as well love 'em!

Patrick -

I'm having a problem to comment at the moment. So many defeatists attitudes. I've written on the CONSTITUTION post. If anyone is interested....

I'm going on a 3-day-prayer and fasting Sunday-Monday-Tuesday with Christians all over USA and Canada. Anybody who believes in God can join.
It doesn't mean that McCain and Palin will win. It means that USA will survive.

We're praying for the protection of the Unborn and of the American Constitution. We're not giving up on America.

Claude

Claudia: Sounds like a fine idea!

Why going to vote? All you need is just praying...

Prosper-

It might be hard for you to understand. It's obvious that you have no spirituality whatsoever. It's not your fault. Faith is a gift. It wasn't given to you. I pity you, Prosper, but specially your wife and children. You have nothing of value to teach them. You're an empty vessel.

Some atheists are the most decent people in the world. Denny is one.He is a real and true American. Against many odds, he has built himself a life worthy of admiration. His love of country has no limits. That's what he is fighting for in this blog.

But you Prosper you haven't said and done one thing here that I could admire. You're never satisfied unless you attack people in what you see as their weakest points. You're wasting your time. You never succeed. We're strenghtened by your attacks. And you're diminished as a man. And you diminish your country which has lost, for many years, any contact with God. No wonder France, like you, is now an empty vessel.

This country, America, has been built by people of faith, with solid values. This faith is still strong and alive. Those values are instilled in many people. At this moment, it seems that America is in danger. We're doing what we were taught to do, what the Founding Fathers did. We're going to God.

We're praying and fasting so that people will be pushed into action, and will vote on Tuesday. Many people seem to have given up. They believe the polls. We don't. Polls are conducted on an arbitrary basis. We think that there is still a chance. Each vote is important. We ask God to inspire and encourage people.

We're repeating our main concerns to people: the right of the unborn and the danger to the American Constitution. We must vote for the candidates who have a high moral fiber and the courage to stand up to terrorism and to protect the most defenceless among us. It's McCain/Palin.

We also pray that America survives no matter what. God answers prayers in a mysterious way. The ennemies are from within. They might win the election but they will not be allowed to destroy America. Strong Americans will defend and save their country. It happened before. It will happen again.

You probably didn't understand a word of what I wrote, Prosper. But some Americans do. And a lot of caring Canadians. We cannot vote but we can pray with USA. Sunday-Monday-Tuesday: 3 days of prayer and fasting.

God bless America.

Denny-

Thank you for your warm welcome on your blog. It gave me the courage to write the above message. I admire you so much, and so many of your readers. America is strong and will survive as long as people like all of you are caring.

Well said Claudia. I always wonder about people who confess they do not believe, and yet they give themselves the right to protest what other folks believe in.

... and God is naturally on your side ?
That must be comfortable...
You really should talk to Islam fundamentalists. They think exactly the same way !!

Poor secular Europe, far away from the light of God that bright only on North America and Middle East...

I'll come back after your election day (you're all become paranoid and frantic). And don't forget : your country will still be there november 5th. Even if your next president is a black rat bastard commy...

Prosper......

I really should not post to you but........

1. Our Christian God or the false prophet Mohammad,who do you want on your side?
2.The light of our Christan God shines everywhere in the world, you just need to look.
3. Some of us do care & take our elections seriously......As the only Superpower who does champion & defend freedom in the world & will assist even France if needed ,I would think you might be concerned also.

There is a time to poke fun ,ridicule or be hilarious, there is a time to really be serious as the consequence will be dire if you are not ......This is a serious time.

Prosper -

Oh! man of little mind. I said you would not understand. God is not political. He is on the side of people of faith. And people of faith don't kill viable fetus and destroy the Constitution of their country.

You show me that the Muslim law treats women and children with kindness, then I'll respect their God.

Yes! The light of God has stopped shining on most of Europe. That's why you inspire pity. As far as I'm concerned I couldn't care less if you never return. I cannot recall one word of value coming out of your mouth. I only feel shame that we share the same language. Thank God, my French blood has been purified by the Canadian climate. I would hate to think that I'm still part of your decadent country.

Dudley1 -

You're right. The light of our Christian God is shining everywhere. But the world refuses to look.

Thank you for explaining it so well.

Prosper. Your Country is really not that far away from Allah. Look out your window. He is torching cars, building mosques and plotting to kill infidels like you. Viva la France.

I always try to read all that is posted on any topic raised here that has caused me to post.

Further, I read, read and re-read all of the responses to the thread and usually snag a comment that is of particular interest.

Here is that 'snag':

"This is the difference between those on my side of the political equation, we put honor ,duty & country first & point out when our Republican representation screws up & demand they be removed."

Which is so after the fact!

I have no qualm that the quote does indeed call for change after something has occurred. I do not doubt that it requests that we keep a close-eye on what Republicans do wrong. I am certain that the quote has an eye toward retribution.

And therein lies the problem.

The quote above does not look forward and does no good for tomorrow.

I do have issue with the comment posted above in it suggesting and implying that "Duty, Honor, Country" is somehow the exclusive realm of but one Party.

And thus-just-so, this topic ends.

I do not doubt that it requests that we keep a close-eye on what Republicans do wrong.

And thus-just-so, this topic ends.

Way to cut-and-run Dano... I guess it ends when the cut-and-runners say it ends huh?

Don't worry, Prosper will come back once JHE has the reigns and shits on our rights. Afterall, Prosper loves Socialism/Marxism and he will gladly buy you some cheese for some whine today...

DanS.......

It is a fact that people who screw up are usually caught AFTER the fact......how else would you know they screwed up until they actually have?

The point I tried to make which is apparently beyond your comprehension is Republican`s demand those found guilty resign or be replaced . This is called corrective action & is indeed looking forward.

The democrats make excuses ,hide the activities of their associates & in many cases have supported & glorified these people. This is called aiding & abetting which provides the activities are judged to be acceptable to the leadership of the party & will continue. Do I dare say ....More of the same?