As y'all know I got me some new trolls. Rex seems to be obsessed with my sex life as he seems to make the same comment over and over again about me not getting laid. Rex, can't you come up with sumpin' other than that? You cannot make Asshole of the Week doing the same old tired comment over and over. Why not sumpin' else like if your weenie were two inches shorter you would have a scab on the back of your ass. C'mon! My readers want my trolls to be entertaining. Think up some other insults. Make them original. Make them funny. You want my readers to laugh at me. What you're doing is making my readers laugh at you and when they read your pitiful comments they don't know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you because you are such a loser.
I'm beginning to think that you are really Rat Turd. Rex, you don't have much of a life do you?
Then we have Dave who has his own obsession. Just like Lois Lane is always trying to prove that Clark Kent is Superman, Dave is constantly trying to prove that I am Topeka Troll. I would think that Dave is Jane, but she knows that TT and I are two separate people. She is, after all, the person who gave Topeka Troll, Judgejerry in my comments, the name Topeka Troll.
I've done some searching and I found a picture of Rex and Dave. Here it is:

And I really should not do this, but I've also found a picture of Rex's mommy. Beware, this is not a pretty picture. After seeing this you may understand why Rex has issues.

Now it's off to the mall to get some exercise.
The latest Fax From Babs was a 10 minute knockoff so I have time to address a commment written by one Amy King. She is a typical barking moonbat from the left who resorts to namecalling rather than making any salient points. It's obvious that she hasn't read much of what I write since she has called me misogynist and racist. I will just call her ignorant and stupid. Let's examine what she wrote.
It's so nice to see the ancient southern mentality of misogyny (that's woman hating) and ignorance (that's being uninformed) of politics still thrives. Women you write about on your blog: the ones you hate and the ones you want to f-ck. Yeah.
Well, first of all, I did not grow up in the South. I have only lived here 20 of my 58 years. Amy could have found that out had she bothered to read the FAQ I have posted over on the left sidebar, but like most liberals, she is either too lazy or too stupid, to get her facts straight. It is so much easier to resort to insults. Do I hate women? I have met many women bloggers and I guess they could answer that. Y'see Amy, one of the devices I use on this site is sumpin' foreign to you. It is called humor. Do I think Jessica Simpson is stupid? Not really. She's parlayed her dumb blond act into a nice career. I also defy you to find even one time, on this site, that I have said that I want to fuck someone. I don't even say that on my Saturday boobage pictures.
But I do hate some women. I hate Jane Fonda, not because she is a woman, but because she is a traitor. When she returned from North Viet Nam she should have been arrested, tried for treason, and executed. Yeah. I despise Jane Fonda.
I hate Hillary Clinton also. I don't hate her because she is a woman. I hate her because she is a socialist. I hate her because of all the lives she has destroyed. I hate her because she is a liar. I hate her because she is corrupt. I hate her because she is a danger to this country. I hate her for playing the victim. She is the "smartest woman in the world" and she claims that she didn't know that her husband was getting his pole licked by an airhead intern, in his office, while she was also in the White House. And you want this woman as president? You want someone that incredibly stupid as to not know her husband, with all his history, was cheating on her? And you call me stupid?
And if I hate woman so much, why do I write nice things about many of them, including my sister? Why do I admire Condi Rice and Laura Bush? Why do I like so many women bloggers. I guess it's because I want to fuck them. OK gals, you've been warned by Amy. Watch out at the next blogmeet.
And you might as well just post 'black folk' pictures with less thinly-veiled terms like "bats," and just go ahead and call 'em whatever it is you really do. When I was growing up it was "coons". Is "bats" an indication that the southern gentleman's mind is evolving? At least be straight-forward with your racism! It's never been a secret, and by the looks of your postings, it still isn't.
Obviously Amy is more familiar with current racist terms than I am. I have never heard the term "bats". That's a new one for me.
For your information Amy, I went to an integrated high school. Like I said, I did not grow up in the South. If I would have used the words "nigger" or "coon" around my house, my parents would have slapped me into the middle of next week. Neither of my parents were racist and they did not raise racist children.
I'm so racist that I think Condi Rice would make a much better president than Hillary Clinton, or any of the rest of the Dimocrat communists. I'm so racist that I admire Colin Powell. And isn't it funny that it was a racist Republican who appointed the first black Secretary of State and also the first black female Secretary of State?
I also admire Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, and Clarence Thomas. Oh wait! They're Oreos.
Why do I make fun of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? Because they are RWPP's. They are both accomplished shakedown artists who have become rich off the poverty of blacks while supporting policies that have kept blacks dependent upon the gummint. They are both also anti-Semitic. Speaking truth about race hustlers does not make me a racist.
And you wanna talk about racists? Howza 'bout the Dimocrats in Congress who went after Clarence Thomas, a black man, for supposedly commenting about a pubic hair on a Coke can, while supporting a white Dimocrat president who groped a woman. Gloria Steinem even came out with the "one free grope" rule which set sexual harrassment rules back twenty years. Who are the racists?
The Dimocrats went after Clarence Thomas, a black man, for supposedly talking about a porno movie, while excusing a white, Dimocrat president getting blowjobs by a chubby, airheaded intern. By the way, this fit the feminists' definition of sexual harrassment. They always claimed that sexual relations between a boss and his subordinate, even if consensual constituted sexual harrassment because of the power of the boss. They changed their tune with a white Dimocrat president. Who are the racists?
Didja see any of the editorial cartoons during Condi Rice's confirmation hearings? Leftist Tedd Rall depicted her as Aunt Jemima. Other liberal cartoonists penned similar cartoons. It was disgraceful! Who are the fucking racists, Amy? It sure as fuck is not me!
I make fun of John Lewis because he has become a useful idiot. In his misguided way he supports policies that keep his constituents in poverty and dependent upon gummint. I make fun of Maxine Waters because she is an idiot, period. I make fun of Cynthia McCommie because she is a barking moonbat and a communist. I make fun of Harry Belafonte because he is a bigot.
I DO NOT MAKE FUN OF BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK!!!!!
I leave that up to the Ted Ralls on the left and the David Dukes on the right. I challenge you to find anywhere on this site where I have stated or implied that black people are stupid or inferior. Quite the contrary. I rail against educational policies that treat them as such. I rail about silly ideas like Ebonics education which implies that they cannot learn to read, write and speak standard American English. I rail about people who say that SAT tests are culturally biased. That implies that blacks live outside American culture. Who are the racists?
It is actually this patronizing attitude towards blacks that is racist. Liberals think that blacks are too stupid to learn and make excuses for them by lowering admission standards and dumbing down education rather than challenging them to learn. The NAACP opposes vouchers while the black community supports them. Let's keep them in failing schools. Who? Are? The? Racists?
How dare you call me a racist when it is you oh so superior liberals who are the real racists by your advocacy of the bigotry of low expectations. Your Great Fucking Society has created a permanent underclass of people totally supported by and dependant on the gummint. Amy, you make me sick to my stomach.
Thankfully, most of my southern family didn't carry on such a mind-numbing tradition. How do you sustain that kind of hate each day? Where do you find joy that runs deeper than gawking over Jesscia Simpson photos?
Too bad your Southern family didn't teach you how to read and comprehend. Too bad your Southern family didn't give you a sense of humor. Too bad your Southern family didn't teach you manners. Y'see, my Midwestern upbringing gave me all of those qualities.
I know you think that I am a Bush zealot. Once again, you didn't read any further than the last few posts. I voted for Bush for one reason: The War on Terror. He's more serious about fighting it than the Dimocrats. He also has more integrity in his little finger than both Clintons combined have in their entire bodies.
I think the latest transportation bill is a travesty. I was against the farm bill. There is entirely too much gummint spending. The Republicans have proven that they can outspend Dimocrats. No mean feat.
And how do I sustain the hatred? I hate traitors. I hate people who destroy peoples' lives. I hate people who have created a permanent underclass. I hate superior people who patronize blacks and Hispanics and support programs with a history of failure, but continue to do so because it feels good.
Where do I get my joy? One way was becomming a SRF©. Another way is bitchslapping morally superior liberals like yourself. Still another is chasing all the female bloggers I want to fuck when I'm at blogmeets. If only they couldn't outrun me. I'm a cripple ya know.
I like to drink wine. I eat well. I SCUBA dive. I snow ski. I drive a BMW Z3. I also have a BMW 325 and a pickup. I like to read. I like to enjoy life.
I get joy when my site meter goes up. I get joy when someone makes a good joke at my expense like the Photoshopped photo of Helen Thomas and myself. Now that was funny!
I get joy when someone actually comes up with a creative insult. Unfortunately, Amy, yours were lame.
I get joy when I read success stories. I get joy when I get a lot of comments. I get joy when Dimocrats lose elections. I would get joy if there were a credible opposition party.
I get my joy many ways and if I piss off some dumbass liberal like yourself it's just another way to find joy in this life. By the way, my next post will be a picture of Amy.
FYI - all politicians play politics, which means they do things they don't tell the public about. Evil things! Every single one of 'em, even Bush.
Really? No kidding? I'm shocked! Shocked I say! I never knew that. Do all politicians commit murder and get away with it like Ted Kennedy? Are all politicians former klansmen like Robert Kleagle Byrd? Are all politicians rapists and serial molesters like Bill Clinton?
When Republicans get caught, they resign. Dimocrats circle the wagons.
Yeah, politics is a dirty game. No one plays it dirtier than the Clintons. Bill Clinton committed more abuses of office than Nixon could ever dream of.
Nixon requested one FBI file that he never got. Clinton had over 1000.
Nixon tried to politicize the IRS and sic it on his enemies with no success. Hillary installed a friend as IRS commissioner. Many of Bill's bimbos and enemies were audited.
Both Nixon abd Clinton obstructed Justice. Clinton committed perjury.
In the end, three honorable Republican senators told Nixon to resign. The Dimocrats did not have three honorable senators.
BUT it's very telling that some southern minds put so much fervor into bashing and belittling Hillary Clinton. That means she's one of the few women who is a real threat. You should be worried and continue to spend your time making stupid useless photos of her. That's all you can do. And weep.
Check out my comments. I have people from all over the country who are terrified of Hillary Clinton. She is an America hating, military hating, socialist.
What really scares me, though, is that there are nitwits like you who will vote for her.
That terrifies me!
Update: Amy do ya wanna see an example of civil discourse from those on the left? Go here. Yep. No racism here. No hate speech. No misogyny. Oh no. A fine example of BDS at work.
There was a comment posted on my latest Molly Ivins fisk by some booger eatin' moh-ron named Peter. It was so inane that I decided to share it with all of my readers. There are times that I think I should give out an award just for dickheads like Peter. Mabybe I could name it the Maroon Award. Or perhaps name it the Booger Eatin' Moh-ron Award.
Peter is not a native English speaker and as such there will be grammatical and spelling errors. I don't hold that against him. I admire him for being able to communicate in more than one language. The sad thing is that he doesn't have anything worth communicating.
So, without further ado, here's Peter's comment with commentary by me.
Well well, you should watch Star Wars 3, maybe you would learn why hate only creates hate, how all of you are frightened by mass media to make you agree with the war for "the republic".
First off, we are not fighting a war for "the republic". We are fighting a war against dirtbag Islamic sheetheads who are members of a religion mired in the 7th Century. We had two pussy presidents, Carter and Clinton, who appeared weak to Osama bin Laden. Carter was totally inept in the Iranian hostage crisis and so was the "international community". That's one reason we cannot depend upon the "international community" to help us fight terrorism. Clinton was more interested in getting blowjobs than in being commander-in-chief. I will also fault Reagan for cutting and running after the Marine barracks was blown up in Beirut.
Hate breeds hate? Of course it does, but you cannot appease these fanatical bastards. The only way you can deal with them is to use deadly force and kill them and that is what we are doing. We're not pussies like the French and Germans (I think Peter is German, BTW).
That is the way fashist came to power in germany.
Since I think Peter is German I guess he should know. Listen up Peter, you ignorant EUnuch! The United States is not a fascist state. It is nowhere near to being a fascist state. It remains one of the most free countries in the world. Do you think our Lamestream Media could be so anti-Bush if we were a fascist state? Use your fucking brain!
The only difference between Bush and Palpatine is that Bush is too stupid to be that evil, but hopefully his familly is here to help him.
Yet somehow, this stupid guy, Bush, won two elections (The Dimocrats claim he stole both elections which must mean that they were outsmarted by an idiot.). It also turned out that his grades at Yale were higher than Kerry's. He is the first American president with an MBA. He successfully overthrew two gummints. We need more idiots like this running the country. He has been underestimated throughout his political career. He was underestimated by the Dimocrats. He was underestimated by Osama bin Laden. He thought he was dealing with a wimp like Clinton. He was underestimateed by Saddam Hussein. My big gripe against Bush is that he has allowed domestic spending to go through the roof.
Several studies were made about the media, and your media are the more subjective among developped countries according to several studies and even some amricans.
Yep! Holy crap! Peter was right about sumpin'. Even a blind squirrel can sometimes find an acorn. Our media is very subjective but it is not pro-Bush. The LSM is the propaganda arm of the Dimocrat Party. The only counter balance to ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNNNPR, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the L. A. Times, the Chicago Tribune, the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation, (insert your home town newspaper here), and the rest of the LSM is Fox News, the Washington Times, and the Blogosphere. When you come to Atlanta you will get to see that for yourself.
Do you know that in Europe we can hear several times a week how America killed civilians or dropped unfortunatly a bomb on an hospital, or killed several hundreds of inocent child and women knowing what they were doing?
Do you know that I don't give a flying fuck what you hear or think? Did you know that we are fighting a war, a war that was declared on us by a bunch of Islamic, nutjob, sheetheads? We didn't start the war, but as long as we don't elect another Carter or Clinton we will finish it. You fuck with the USA at your own peril.
We hear that you don't care about environnement,
Fucking right! Fuck the environment. We pour all the pollutants we can into the air. It's funny because when I'm in a large European city I find their pollution is much worse than ours.
you kill the planet,
Yep! Keep on believing that Peter.
that you use black and hispanic poors'children for your experiments,
Where is he reading this shit? We can't keep the Hispanics out of this country. I guess they want to be experimented on. And Peter, you may be surprised to discover that most of our large cities are run by blacks. Atlanta is one of them. Washington D. C. is another.
that 90% of capital punishments are against black people,
I call bullshit! I will admit that capital punishment is higher among blacks, but it it not 90%. But maybe it is higher because blacks commit more crimes. That's a result of the liberals in this country who created the welfare system that has created a black dependent underclass. It was the liberals, not the right wing nutjobs, who did that.
that you use god to justify a weapon !!!
Jesus H. Christ! Where do you get your news from Peter? We have a secular gummint. We don't even call Christmas a holiday when we let schools out. It is now called winter break. You have an awful lot to learn about this country, bucko.
You have no understanding, no pity, only money drives america, no love, only wars.
We are the most generous nation in the history of this planet. We used our military for tsunami relief. Remember that? We give away more money than any country on this planet. Our people are very generous. Non-gummint charities gave a ton of money for tsunami relief. We have charities that feed the poor in Africa and Asia. Everytime there is a natural disaster Americans open their hearts and their wallets. I will match American generosity with any country on this planet.
Do you know why Bush attacked Irac knowing there were no mass destruction weapons?
I know exactly why Bush attacked Iraq. It is obvious that you don't have a clue. The only way to stop Islamic terrorism is to remove the states that sponsor it. Iraq was a good place to start. D'ya know what I would do? I would tell the Islamic world to turn over Osama bin Laden and the rest of the terrorists or I start nuking cities. My first city would be Medina and my second would be Mecca. If these asshats want a war, I'd give them one. Bush is a hell of a lot nicer than I am.
Well not only for gaz, but also for the weapon industry and to make you forget about his cheats during the election (why did you let this pass???).
Didja know that all the recounts that the Dimocrats requested in Florida were done after the election by the LSM? Ya know what? He won all of 'em. That's why we let it pass. And in 2004, despite what you have read from your obviously leftest news outlets, Bush won a clear majority. Get your facts straight, maroon.
Why didn't America attack the North Korea : they are building an NUCLEAR WEAPON and they hate america.(I know: too big, too dangerous, no gaz : Bush=coward ...!)
Because it was too late to take on North Korea. They already had nukes thanks to Clinton and the deal worked out with the North Koreans by Jimmah Carter. The deal that they reneged on immediately. Iraq, on the other hand, was working on nukes. So was Libya, but when Daffy Qadaffi saw what happened to Saddam he abandoned his WMD programs. The Syrians are leaving Lebanon. Another result of the Iraqi war.
Do you know that the evil empire for the rest of the world is the super powerfull nation that uses even murders, and war for its economy, that doesn't respect the planet and wants everybody to agree with its values.
Do you even know what an empire is? Let me help you out.
Empire - A political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority.
Let's see, we went into Afghanistan, overturned the Taliban gummint and now Afghanistan has a democratically elected gummint. It is not a province of our "empire". Same with Iraq. Also, a real empire collects tribute from its provinces. If only. We are putting money in Iraq, just like we poured money into Europe after WWII. Something called the Marshall Plan. Remember that? Another example of American generosity. I doubt that with your limited knowledge of history and world affairs you even know about the Marshall Plan. We don't have this empire shit down too well.
Bush cooperated with Sadam AND Oussama, and nothing happened to him for that , why ???
Maybe because it didn't happen? Your knowledge of history is really pathetic. Reagan cooperated with Saddam, but that was when he was fighting Iran. Remember Iran? That's when the Iranians violated international law by taking American diplomats hostage and the rest of the world did nothing. Let me repeat, the rest of the world did absolutely fucking nothing. You're damned right we supported Saddam against Iran. I'd do it again. And I guess your contention about Bush supporting Osama must be referring to our support for the resistance in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Soviets, who happened to be our enemies at the time. Bush had nothing to do with this (he wasn't even in politics then) and bin Laden was not in Afghanistan at the time. Geez, you sound just like a liberal Dimocrat. You have all the loony leftest talking points down pat. I bet you saw Farenheit 9/11 and believed everything that was in that movie.
You have a very powerfull army that attacks small countries to steal their gaz, so don't you think Bush is a coward after all that ???
Dammit! I wish we could steal the gas, but unfortunately we ain't doing it. We're pouring a damn sight more money into Iraq than we're getting out of it. If we really wanted to steal gas, why should we go all the way to Iraq? Why didn't we just attack Canada? They're our biggest oil supplier. Howza 'bout Mexico? We could conquer them and steal their gas.
Try to see what is hidden in your media, because in europe, media often speak about things your governement did, and you don't even know it even when it's awfull.
Wait until you come to Atlanta and read the Urinal and Constipation and look at the network news. They are all anti-Bush and anti-Republican. You'll feel right at home. BTW, the LSM went absolutely wild about Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. All we hear from Iraq from our media is bad news. Believe me if your media publishes sumpin' bad about us, our media will make sure we hear about it.
and this is very bad for you and your economy (which is going more and more down by the way)
You wanna match economies with us? Germany and France 10% unemployment. United States 5.2% unemployment. Our economy is growing faster than yours is you incredibly stupid asshat!
I really appreciate american people but only because I know american people, because I talked to them.
From everything you have written previously you have demonstrated that you know next to nothing about America and American people.
However I understand that people that only know you, and what your big compganies and governement do, through media, I understand they hate you.
Y'know, I don't really care if the rest of the world hates us. In fact, I wish they would hate us so much that they wouldn't want to come here. We have too many people who want to move here. Why they want to come to a country they hate is beyond me but we can't keep up with our illegal immigration.
you should pay more attention to what your governement do with foreign politics,
I do. That's why I vote against Dimocrats.
I'm gonna go to georgiatech institue at the end of the year, and I hope I won't be deceived, last time I had a great time.
You're too stupid to go to Georgia Tech.
The thing you do the best is having fun that's true.
Yep! We do like to have fun. I had a lot of fun doing this post. Stop by any time and provide some more entertainment for my readers.
Well that was just to inform you how the rest of the world see you, don't take this has an attack it is not against civilans but against a system.
A system that works. That is why we are the richest and most powerful nation the world has ever seen.
Cower in fear from terrorists little EUnuch. We had to save the world from fascism and communism in the 20th Century. Now we have to save it from Islamic sheetheads. It would be nice to have a little help. We know who our real friends are. Two of our best friends are England and Australia.
The French and the Germans are pussies.
For my latest troll SSG DAVE WALLACH.

I see they must have really dropped the standards to be an NCO since I was in the military. BTW DAVE, HERE'S A CLUE.

The above image was shamelessly stolen from Maddox.
All my readers are laughing at you, and it's a shame because this is a pro-military site and we all feel bad about making fun of someone serving this country. I have a nephew who just returned from Iraq and is gonna make the Army his career. I hope he doesn't run into a wingnut like you. I suggest you get some psychiatric help. Might I advise you to read The Rules before commenting again. I will make fun of you and I will humiliate you.
One of the things I enjoy doing with trolls is editing their comments. It drives them crazy. Unfortunately, I shouldn't have edited the first three comments of my latest troll, some fuckwit who calls himself MeowMix, which one of my readers pointed out is the first stage of catshit. Addison told me that I should have left his original comments stand because he, Addison (the other one), and xCavTrooper bitchslapped him much better than I could ever hope to. Hey Addison, how would you like to write a post a week for this site? The offer is also open to Addison (the other one) and xCavTrooper. They all know how to debate lucidly and use facts to back up their arguments. I will post at the end of this entry three excellent comments.
Facts. They are annoying little things aren't they? That's why liberals usually lose arguments and have to resort to name calling when facts are involved. Like the talking point about how many jobs have been lost during the Bush administration. I addressed it in an earlier post by going to the Department of Labor's web site and actually looking at the statistics. Addison did also and the links will be posted later in this post. With the internet and Google it's amazing all the neat stuff you can find out. It's a shame the lamestrem media is too lazy or too biased to do that.
Blarney Gumball was an annoying troll, but at least he posted links, albeit bullshit ones, to back up his talking points. Here is a typical unedited entry from MeowMix.
Guess you guys like a president that was never anything in school, went a-wol for a year, got a score of 25 on his aptitude test...the government spent 1 million dollars training him how to fly a jet, goes on vacation 30 times a year, puts the national deficite at an all time high, then is booed by the nations african-americans, cheated his way into office by hiding votes for gore, (if you want I'll post a link in Flordia that shows 35,000 votes for gore hidden in a warehouse) the first president ever to be booed with protestors when he took his walk down the street, etc etc etc,But i know you people will just eventually end up making this post into "I
like masturbating to john kerry" because you cant handle the facts.... oh well.And why is it so important to put my real name? Are you going to find out who i
am and egg my house? Whatever
Didja notice he throws out all the talking points that he probably got from the Moveon.org website? We have gone over this shit time and time again. He didn't cut and paste this time because he misspells words (deficite instead of deficit) and seems to have no conception of capitalization or rational sentence structure. Obviously a product of a gummint school and a poor one at that. Probably has a job flipping burgers somewhere (if he even has a job), lives at home, and uses his parents' computer. Then he says we can't handle facts and doesn't present any. He promises to post a link for 35,000 missing votes rather than posting the link. And dude, if you are proud of what you write and your positions, be like Addison, Addison (the other one) and Robin Palm (He and I disagree but he is confident enough in his positions that he posts his real name and email address) and post your real name. You don't because you are a troll.
Had I left his other three posts intact you would see just how incredibly stupid this dipshit is, and I'm not engaging in an ad hominem attack here, I'm just stating a fact. Let his own words bear witness.
Yeah, I'm real lazy tonight and I want to answer a comment by Robin so I just want to present three comments from yesterday's post.
This was a comment by xCavTrooper who must have obtained a copy of the How to Be a Troll Handbook.
MeowMix, Your other "points" have been refuted time and time again. Educational spending, enviromental impact, jobs lost, etc... We have already spent quite a bit of time refuting trolls who seem to always follow the same pattern:1) Wake up, decide that their DU handbook and massive ego are enough to convince the evil right-wingers of the error of their ways
2) Locate GOC's site, skim last topic
3) State latest leftist talking points as 'facts', fail to follow up with sources or numbers.
4) Attack rebuttals of leftist insane points by a) insulting other posters b) arguing over inane details (i.e. spelling), c) claiming all contrary evidence is fabricated by neocon conspiracy/Bushitler/Karl Rove/Haliburton/aliens d) ignoring rebuttal and sliding to different point, acting if the rebuttal is ignored, it will somehow go away and not 'count'.
5) Argument from troll eventually reduced to "uh-uh - i'm right, and no matter what you say I must be right"
6) Normal visitors realize that troll has moved from amusing to pityable to painful. Silence from normal posters for moment. GOC takes troll out and (electronically) whacks troll in back of head with Banstick.
If you want to be taken seriously, first, read the FAQ for the site. Then, bring up actual facts and attributations with your claims. Treat everyone else with respect, and you will also be respected. Respond to the rebuttals of your points with more facts and polite arguments.
Conversely, act like a spoiled child and we will laugh and poke fun at you.
And now, we have Addison who refutes all of his talking points with facts.
Fine. I thought it was self-evident that you are a troll by the seemingly breathless and exasperated run-on sentence non-period-using style of your post.I'll elaborate:
1) The President cut $200 million from his own No Child Left Behind Act
That is not true. The $200 million was from a program called "Impact Aid", not No Child Left Behind. Impact Aid falls under military housing and facilities. It seems odd given the 2004 budget had the following in it:
- Military Personnel - $98.6 billion (6 percent increase)
- Operations & Maintenance - $117.0 billion (3 percent increase)
- Military Construction - $5.0 billion (21 percent decrease)
- Housing - $4.0 billion (5 percent decrease)
It looks more like disinformation than an actual event (looked through seven pages of Google results and found no links to pages other than ones simply asserting this as though it were fact). I am looking at an article by a "Ron Edmonds" that states that "military family housing and medical facilities" funding was cut by $1.5 billion. However, when I look at the 2004 bill highlights (link), it points out pay raises from 2 - 6.25%, a reduction in out-of-pocket expensives for private housing from 3.5 - 7.5% and the above noted increases in spending in exactly the places where there were supposedly cuts. The 2005 bill (link) gets an additional $200 million in family housing and $400 million more in family housing construction.When searching for "military family housing" + "1.5 billion", the links all go to self-referential Leftwing sites (link) with no external links to an actual government report or bill. The story exists within a microcosm of the political spectrum (the fringe Left) but damned if I could find a link to reality where the story was true. What it looks like is the reduction was something perhaps proposed that never went into affect--and even then, had nothing to do with No Child Left Behind. If it the $1.5 billion cut did happen, it looks as though it was quickly remedied.
What I did find concerning education was:
- A GAO study from May 2003 found that Congress is providing more than enough money for states to design and implement the statewide achievement tests required under No Child Left Behind. The report also shows education reform opponents are exaggerating estimates of NCLB's state testing costs by as much as $5.1 billion between fiscal years 2002 and 2008. (link)
- 2000 Education Spending: $38,447,366,000
2004 Education Spending: $63,270,657,000 (link)Education seems well funded. I would not criticize an increase in spending of 64.6% in four years if federal undercutting of education is your concern.
2) The Bush Administration's regressive environmental policies have lowered cleanliness standards for our air and water.
A link would be helpful to an EPA report or the like.
Went over to the EPA's site and found the "Draft Report on the Environment" (link) and found reports, under the listings "Cleaner Air, Purer Water, Better Protected Land, Human Health, and Ecological Condition" that everything is on the, shall we say, up and up. Some of their data only goes to 2002 but I have a suspicion that were the environment in the midst of a downturn, they might have chosen to mention it on their--what was your term?--"main page". Looking through six months of news headlines (link) did not show anything noteworthy (e.g., "Environment doomed, minorities and women hit hardest).
3) The Bush Administration's Patriot Act threatens our constitutional rights and civil liberties.
An example would be nice. Platitudes are not arguments. First, supply an example of exactly where constitutional rights and civil liberties are "threatened" and an example of their being violated. I have a sneaking suspicion that not one case exists, as I have yet to see one (and I've been looking) in two years. The DoJ even has a Question and Answer section that addresses such hysteria (link)
4) Bush's Tax Cuts only benefit the rich
They benefit anyone who pays income taxes, as they went to everyone who paid income taxes. That the rich are able to retain a larger quantitative amount of money than you or I is immaterial, as they put significantly more money in, as they earn more. I am in the next to lowest income tax bracket and I noticed the tax cut. I'm not rich but I benefitted, ergo your argument is bunk. I know people who opened IRA accounts with their tax refund and they make in the mid-$50,000; they are, by few people's definition, rich. Yet, oddly enough, they benefitted from the tax cut.
5) ...3.3 million jobs (93,000 in August of 2003 alone) have been lost since Bush took office...
The employment in December of 2000 was 135,836,000 (link). In February 2004, it was 138,301,000 (link). One thing that stands as odd is that the talking point now is "number of jobs", not unemployment rate. The unemployment rate is currently 5.5% (link) and was 5.6% when Bill Clinton began campaigning for his second term--CNN noted that the unemployment rate was dropping from an "already-low 5.6%". As a point of interest, South Korea has an unemployment rate in the threes (link). Interesting but beside the point.
6) Bush is underfunding homeland security.
Who are you to say? How can you make that determination? Homeland security funding goes as such:
- 2001: $0 (did not exist)
- 2002: $19.5 Billion
- 2003: $33.5 Billion + $6.71 Billion in supplemental funding
- 2004: $36.2 billion (link)
- 2005: $40.2 billion (link)
Homeland Security funding has increased 106% since its creation. Underfunded?This is why I called you a troll. You provide innuendo, falsehood, and a laundry list that you copied and pasted from somewhere, but provide no facts, as though the words themselves will make reality as such. And don't try to say you wrote it because no one who writes without punctuation marks takes the time to capitalize words that mark the beginning of sentences. It looks like a list copied from an ordered list and pasted, as the beginning of one comment butts against the end of the previous.
I have thusly appended my "useless comment" with fact, unlike your posts that are all completely useless.
I gotta quit looking at my site at work and let the smart people take care of the trolls. Seriously, Don't you wish Addison would start his own blog?
I just gotta post what Addison (the other one) posted since he had an excellent take on tax cuts.
Meowmix: "Bush Administration Patriot Act?" (Actually, it would be PATRIOT act).This shows why the "left" can't be allowed back into government - they don't understand how it works, and don't care.
There are several problems with the "PATRIOT" slanders you're committing. One, you did not detail what parts were a problem (I've got a sneaking suspicion you don't actually know what they are, or if they're part of the act or not). Two, it's hardly the Bush administration's. It was passed by the US House and Senate.
Holy shit! Facts No fair!
98-1-1. That looks pretty damn "bipartisan" to me.
Well, at least Kerry didn't.. Oh. Wait. Well, Edwards.. Oops. Well, surely Clinton...
YEAS: 98
Clinton (D-NY)
Edwards (D-NC)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)But as usual (for trolls), you're using the "PATRIOT" act as a ad-hom. With specificity, _what_ is wrong with it? (if you want to escape the appellation of "troll")
"Bush's Tax Cuts only benefit the rich. Bush claimed that his tax cut would “reduce tax rates for everyone who pays income tax.” He failed to mention that this “relief” program would put half of the tax cut's dividends into the hands of our nation's wealthiest 5%, while 8.1 million citizens in the bottom half of the income bracket receive approximately $300 a year,"
Well, it's normal for trolls here to not really make sense, so I'll attempt to figure out what you mean. As for the tax cuts - I certainly noticed them. I don't even own a house. Nor am I that "rich". (Hint: the _really_ rich? They don't pay taxes. They can afford $100k for a guy to make sure their tax bill is close to nothing).
A large part of your problem is you want something to be true, so you're going to make it true in your head.
If we have a tax system set up. Denny pays $1 in taxes. CavTrooper pays $2 in taxes, addison pays $6 in taxes, and I pay $10 in taxes. We have a "tax cut" and reduce taxes by 1/2. Who gets the most "benefit?" Well, I do - I save $5! Denny only saves $.50! What injustice! I'm getting "more" of the "cut" (actually, the government is _taking less_. When you talk about "giving" cuts in government seizures, you give yourself away)
Now, let's set it up similar to how we have taxes. If you make under a certain amount, you don't pay taxes... Now, Denny and Cav trooper are not paying *any* taxes. But when we get the tax cut - they don't "get anything" out of it (actually, they'd probably get tax credits, thus MAKE MONEY, but that's a longer issue). So I "get" $5! And Denny gets $0. That's so unfair, right? Denny "gets" nothing and I "get" $5! That's exactly what the "tax cut" did.
50% of the "wage earners" pay 96.03% of federal income tax. That's right. 50% is paying for almost everybody else.
Omigawd! More facts!
"The top 50% were those individuals or couples filing jointly who earned $26,000 and up in 1999. (The top 1% earned $293,000-plus.)"And I won't even bother pointing out the BS inherent in "The Bush Administration's regressive environmental policies have lowered cleanliness standards for our air and water". Yeah. arsenic. Now you only have to have a fraction of the amount that's harmless, as opposed to even less of a fraction, which would have bankrupted small towns and municipalities nationwide. But that's right. you like paying taxes. Want to just send me some money? Same thing, right?
Do I have good commenters or what?
Ya know, I try. I really try. I do not want to see people making fools of themselves and holding themselves up to public ridicule. On my comments screen it states
If you are a troll you will be humiliated and your comments will be edited. I do not put up with bullshit. You may speak now...
How much more specific can I be? Yet, there are still booger eatin' moh-rons willing to display their abysmal ignorance and stupidity for all the world to see.
Sometimes I am even nice enough to rebut their pitiful arguments in the comments so only the people who read the comments can see how incredibly stupid these trolls can be. (And to Dralon who asked me what a troll was, read on.) Sometimes I do nothing and let my more intelligent readers like Addison, xCavTrooper, Grognard, and lately Paul, take them on.
Sometimes they become so idiotic, that I have no choice but to let my readers who do not peruse the comments see what kind of troll droppings are left there.
<RodSerling>Submitted for your approval, one Brandon, who claims to work for a Fortune 500 company, made some comments on this post and damned if he didn't mention Haliburton. I'm shocked! Shocked, I say. We are about to enter the Idiot Zone</RodSerling>
Isn't Taco Bell owned by PepsiCo which is a Fortune 500 company? Anyway, he also told me to go back to the first grade and find out what a real democracy was. I also pointed out that the United States wasn't a democracy but a constitutional republic. I also told him I probably paid more in taxes than he made because he was such a loser.
By golly, he decided to put me in my place with this comment, which I post unchanged.
Hey Big Denny. I have a college degree but you da man. The only way you express your emotions is by talking about your insecurities and using fowl language. Believe me, no one that is in your so-called tax bracket admits that they're making that. And if your a liberitarian, that means you have a democratic base except you smoke weed too, and believe in a more natural evolution of society. I'm a political science and environemental major. Don't feed me your insecurities Den den. Anyone can talk shit. It's called a stance too, not a talking point. And this is a Democracy, where the people are the government (or are supposed to be). You try history you fuckin Yuppie, braggin about how much you make. Please, you see Ralph Nadar braggin about how much he makes. Please.. Your the definition of arrogance....which doesn't make you any political party....just an asshole. Go discover yourself and come out the closet. Put on your pink shirt and your tassles on and go piss on some pissants pal. Looks like I got somebody pissed, my intentions. thank you.
Brandon violated one of the first rules of trying to make me look stupid. I have covered this many times. If you want to insult my intelligence, please try to spell correctly. The phrase is "foul language" not "fowl language". I realize that you are probably too poor to have access to a dictionary, and if you did, would not know how to use it. Here's a site that can help you out.
You obviously know nothing about Libertarians except that you think they smoke weed. They believe in following the Constitution which unfortunately, neither the Dimocrats nor Republicans seem to want to.
I especially like the part about him being a "political science and environemental major". Brandon, you may want to go hit the dictionary again as that would be "environmental" not "environemental". And if you are a political science major you're not doing too well if you do not know that the United States is not a democracy but a constitutional republic. C'mon, tell us the truth. You're attending one of those schools that advertise on matchbook covers aren't you? You better ask for your money back.
You try history you fuckin Yuppie, braggin about how much you make.
Actually I am very well versed in history. I'll debate you on history anytime you want. Name the time and place. Yep. I make a lot of money. Do you know why? Because I worked hard and learned a lot. No one has ever handed me anything pal. I worked hard to get it. I stated that I probably pay more in taxes than you make to point out what a fucking loser you are and always will be. Taco Bell doesn't really pay that much does it?
Your the definition of arrogance
That would be "you're" the definition of arrogance. You also said "your a liberitarian" which would be "you're a libertarian". Slept through English class I see. Yeah. I'm arrogant. I look down on stupid pissants like you.
Go discover yourself and come out the closet.
Come out the closet? Do you mean "come out of the closet"? What closet is that? The closet that makes me superior to you because I have a brain and know how to use it?
Brandon. Good luck with your life. Keep practicing saying, "Do you want fries with that?"
And that brings us to Matthew Goodsell, which cannot be his real name since anyone who writes (and I use that term loosely) as bad as this dipstick writes couldn't possibly be proud enough to sign his real name. I did not alter these comments.
any levey-headed 5 y/o can see through these arguments: for one, it is conservatism rather than liberalism which ignores facts, steadffastly clinging to its view that america is alwways right byy default, that the book of genesis is true, that poor people are "jjust lazy". I mean, duh!and i suggest you read marx. socialism isn't perfect, but its a damn sight better than this self-centred, pig-ignorant "the arabs are out to get us" bullshit that you pedal as the truith.
I am speechless! Have you ever seen a better example of a self fisking comment? Matthew's spelling and sentence structure make Brandon look like a genius.
How can I possibly point out to this asshole that the Soviet Union collapsed, that North Korea and Cuba are shitholes, and that of all the western industrial nations the one that is least socialist, the United States, has the lowest unemployment and the highest standard of living? But Matthew did get sumpin' right.
I mean, duh!
I realize that most of you dickwads are too stupid to have your own web sites. I mean, you can't even do it on Blowspot. Now how dumb is that? And those of you who do have websites have content that is so full of crap that no one wants to go there. So what to do? Why not go to other web sites that people actually read and post your bullshit there? That way, maybe someone will finally read what you perceive to be wisdom. Unfortunately, most of those readers will be smart enough to know that it is total bullshit.
Let me give y'all some advice. If you are gonna troll in comments, do it on a post that is less than two weeks old. Posts older than that are usually off the front page and the only people who will read your comments are me or people who happen to be poking through my archives. Dontcha want all my readers to see how smart you are? That's one of the reasons you're trolling isn't it? Why not share your immense wisdom so all my readers can see exactly how smart you are?
Case in point, one Greg Hunter, who deposited his troll droppings on a February 10 post about John Fonda Kerry. He dared me to post it. Uh, Greg, you must not understand how this blogging stuff works. You post it in my comments. I can delete it or edit it, but you post it. Anyway, I thought I would share his wisdom with y'all.
Denny You are as dumb as a box of rocks. You cant get a Purple heart or Stars just by putting yourself in for it. Since you were in the rear with the gear you may not know that. You hate Clinton because he avoided the draft. Now you hate Kerry because he volunteered, for 2 tours, and was decorated in combat. And now these medical records have been released. Your probably to stupid to know this, great Presidents who have been liberals, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Wilson, all lead us through war. BTW,speaking on liberal and conservative press? what are the service records of Rush limbaugh, Shaun Hannity, Joe Scarborough and the like? Bush may be a good man but he is a mental midget being led by the nose by draft dodging war hawks Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld. Lets not even talk about his lousy record with the economy,the deficit, unemployment, his war against the middle class, tax breaks for the rich, his failure in the U.S. intelligence agency's. Are you just a GOP zombie also, or do you have any origional thoughts of your own? If Hitler ran as a Republican you'd probably vote for him. Lets see if you have the guts to post this.
I responded to some of this in the comments.
First off, he broke two of The Rules:
3. Do not start a thread with an insult. That immediately shows that you are a fucking idiot and are fair game and will be treated accordingly. If you are polite, we will be polite. Maybe. I decide. Unfair? See rule 1.
4. If you do insult me or others, try to make it an amusing insult. "Ha. Ha. Ha. You sure are stupid" is lame. "You have alzheimers" is lame. "If your brains were TNT, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose" is good. Come up with sumpin' like that and you can stay a little longer. I want to be amused. If I'm not amused you're gone. Why can I do that? See rule number 1
C'mon. Dumb as a box of rocks? Did you learn that in the 1st or 2nd grade?
and it's not "cant" it's can't.
Decorations: Kerry lobbied for his first purple heart. His decorations were based on his reports to superiors.
My military service: Doesn't matter. I served. I was in Viet Nam. I wasn't in the "rear with the gear". Since you are gonna denigrate my service, did you serve? Probably not. You sound like a coward to me.
I do not hate Kerry because he served. I hate him for what he did after he returned to the States. I hate him for his association with the traitor Jane Fonda. I hate him for testifying about made up atrocities. I hate him for throwing his medals away. Wait. They weren't his? Or were they? They were ribbons and not medals? Geez. He keeps changing his story.
Great Presidents who were liberals. Oh. They led us through war not "lead us through war". Teddy Roosevelt today would be considered conservative. His liberal policies were anti-trust and conservation. His foreign policy was anything but liberal. I don't consider Wilson a great president. Think League of Nations. That really prevented WWII didn't it? Roosevelt was a socialist. The Social Security time bomb he created keeps ticking away. Economists from the Austrian and Chicago schools maintain that his policies actually prolonged the Depression and it was only WWII that got us out of it. He also got taken to the cleaners at Yalta by Stalin which led to our involvement in the Cold War. And since you hate Republicans so much, Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln two of the presidents you say are liberal were Republicans. If you had been alive then, you would have probably been protesting the wars of both Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln since they were Republican presidents. And at the time people thought Lincoln was a stupid bumpkin. I bet you would have also.
And speaking of stupid it should be "you're too stupid" not "your to stupid". If you are gonna call someone stupid at least attempt to use decent grammar and spelling. Sheesh! You missed two words in a row.
And what do the service records of "Shaun" (that's Sean) Hannity and other conservative pundits have to do with anything? To be for war you had to have been in the military? When was that rule passed? Does that mean that Bill Clinton had to have been in the military to have committed troops to Kosovo?
And now come all the Dimocrat talking points.
"Bush is a mental midget." MBA from Harvard. They do not give them away. He flew high performance jets. I have flown an airplane. You can not be stupid and be a pilot. There is too much going on, especially if you are flying in formation at 600 knots. Remember, Reagan was a dumb cowboy and he won the Cold War. Jimmah Carter was a nuclear engineer and was probably the most incompetent president of the 20th Century. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and his foreign policy was a disaster. He gutted the CIA and was responsible for most of the intelligence failures that led to 9/11. Osama bin Laden said that when we left Somalia with our tails between our legs that's when he knew we could be defeated. He was probably thinking of Americans like you Greg.
"Draft dodging war hawks like Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld" I didn't realize that military experience was necessary to hold a gummint position. Is this sumpin' you Dimocrats just dreamed up?
The economy. Bush inherited the recession from Clinton. Look it up.
The deficit. I'll give you that one, but Gore would have had the same problem. I think Bush's domestic spending has been way too high, especially the last farm bill.
Unemployment. Another fallout from the Clionton recession. Going down. Actually it is at the same rate as it was during this time in Clinton's first term and the Dimocrats were saying how great that was. It will be even lower by November.
His war against the middle class. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! Don't forget his war against the poor. Oh, and old people. And orphans. And cripples. He's out to get everyone except the evil hated rich.
Tax breaks for the rich. Ah yes. We can never forget tax breaks for the rich. You know what? I'm rich. At least to a Dimocrat I'm rich. Ya know why? I've done things that make me rich. And I'm continuing to do things that make me rich. Are you jealous because you are in a dead end job? Are you jealous because you're not rich? Are you jealous because you're a failure and you need someone to blame your failures on? By the way, the top 1% of taxpayers who make 17% of the income pay 34% of the taxes. Even with the "tax cuts for the rich". How much should the rich pay? What is their fair share?
His failure in the U.S. intelligence agency's. That should be agencies not "agency's". It's bad enough that I have to correct your misconceptions, but to have to continuously correct your spelling is just getting tedious. It was the Clinton Administration that gutted the intelligence agencies with politically correct rules. One name: Jamie Gorelick. And your hero, John Fonda Kerry, voted to cut intelligence budgets.
And nope. I'm not a GOP zombie. Right now I'm a one issue guy and that issue is killing terrorists before they kill us. Unfortunately, John Fonda Kerry is not the man for that job. He thinks the solution is the United Nations. They did a bangup job in Rwanda didn't they? They were doing real well in the Balkans. That's why NATO had to intervene. And John Fonda Kerry thinks he can get France and Germany on board. What's he gonna do? Give Chirac a blowjob? Kiss Schroeder's ass?
If the Dimocrats would run someone like Zell Miller I might vote for him. Unfortunately the Dimocrats have been taken over by the left wing and they cannot be trusted with the defense of the country. They were on the wrong side of history during the Cold War and they continue to be on the wrong side of history during the War on Terror.
So Greg, you got your wish. I posted this nonsensical rant right up front so you could impress all my readers with your intellect. Are you happy.
I am. This post wrote itself.
Thanks.
One of the problems of getting more successful is you get more troll infestations. I like to play Whack a Troll where I edit their comments to say sumpin' stupid (As if the bullshit they post isn't stupid enough.). It drives them nuts! They call me all sorts of names, and I continue to edit their comments. I have one French troll who shows the persistence the French used to plant all those trees in Paris so the Germans could march in the shade.
Today I got a new troll who goes by the name of Robert McClellan. He even has his own web site. Not giving you the link because that is one of the reasons these guys troll. No one wants to visit their lame websites, so they deposit their troll droppings at other sites hoping against hope that someone just might visit their site and they may get more than two hits a day.
My French troll goes by various names. I'll just call him Frankie the Frenchie. Anyway, my good friend Jesse got me pictures of these two guys. It seems they are friends. Hell they might even be related.

Frankie the Frenchie and Robert McClellan.
What a beautiful weekend it was in Beautiful Dunwoody Georgia. The azaleas are almost in full bloom. The dogwoods are getting there too. The creeping phlox on the Great Berm of Dunwoody is in full bloom. In two more years, I will have the entire berm covered with it. It's too beautiful for me to be pissed off so I'll just talk about my new game called Whack a Troll.
Newcomers to my site, especially the trolls, should read FAQ's with special emphasis on The Rules and This Is My Blog. I do not put up with bullshit. This blog is not a democracy. I pay for the site and what I say goes. If you think that is censorship, tough shit. My blog. My rules.
I especially dislike whiny, crybaby bedwetting liberals. I have had two recently who have bemoaned the fact that I don't allow dissenting points of view on my blog. Actually I do, but not when presented by people who have drunk the Klinton Kool-Ade and spew incomprehensible bullshit. Go over to Kos and Atrios and spew your bullshit there. Or better yet, get your own website. Howza' bout whinycrybabybedwettingleftistidiots.blogspot.com? You don't even have to pay for that. Or, you could actually spend some money and register the domain www.whinycrybabybedwettingleftistidiots.com find a hosting site (Hosting Matters $11/month), and see how many people want to voluntarily read your loony ravings.
Anyway, I'm making a slight modification to the rules. That modification is introducing Whack a Troll. Rather than deleting comments and banning the troll, I edit the comments and repost them. Have you ever heard the saying "Don't pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel"? In the Blogosphere it is "Don't pick a fight with a blogger on his site when he can edit your comments". I love it when they rave about censorship and how unfair it is. Tough shit. If you don't like it, don't troll my site.
Also, in my rules, I specify that when you insult me, make it amusing. If your comment has a good insult, I may just leave it in. Be creative. Ooops! If you are a liberal that may be hard.
I also let amusing comments stay in, especially if they make the person who wrote the comment look like an idiot. Here is a fine comment that I just love.
OLa todos !! I"m FRench and so happy to be french, 60% of american people are stupid; like the french %.............. here you are the 60% !! firest line of life : don't make generality !! uSA are perfect !?? no. FRench too. You fight communism... Weapons of communism are the propaganda !! W buch.... use that........ (he is communism ?!)) no!! He is STUPID , SO STupid......... nota : "FRENCH are not isolated in EUrope""(dedicated to powel.........) LIAR !!!!!!!! BYe bye country of liberty ......!!
Now that is a keeper!
Men & Women complement each other by the unique traits we were each given:
WOMAN:
Women have strengths that amaze men.
They carry children, they carry hardships, they carry burdens, but they
hold happiness, love, and joy.
They smile when they want to scream.
They sing when they want to cry.
They cry when they are happy and laugh when they are nervous.
Women wait by the phone for a "safe at home call" from a friend after a
snowy drive home.
They are childcare workers, executives, attorneys, stay-at-home moms,
bikers, babes, &your neighbors.
They wear suits, jeans, and they wear uniforms.
They fight for what they believe in and they stand up against injustice.
They walk and talk the extra mile to get their children in the right
schools and to get their family the right health care.
They go to the doctor with a frightened friend.
Women are honest, loyal and forgiving.
They are smart, knowing that knowledge is power. But they still know how to
use their softer side to make a point.
Women want to be the best for their family &their friends and themselves.
Their hearts break when a friend dies.
They have sorrow at the loss of a family member, yet they are strong when
they think there is no strength left.
They drive, fly, walk, run or e-mail you to show how much they care about
you.
The heart of a woman is what makes the world spin!
Women do more than just give birth.
They bring joy and hope.
They give compassion and ideals.
They give moral support to their family and friends and all they want back
is a hug, a smile, and for you to do the same to people you come in contact
with.
MEN:
Men are good at lifting heavy shit and killing bugs.
I did not write the above, but I posted it to point out diferences between men and women. Somehow I think a woman wrote it.
Before I went diving I posted sumpin'that Sandy P. put in my comments. The basic premise was that men and women are not equal. This attracted a troll named Denise who put forth lots of bullshit and specious arguments by putting words in Sandy P's mouth or twisting them around. Then she said, which contradicted her own arguments Men and women are very different, but still equal.
Huh? If they are different, how can they be equal?
Anyway, I get back from the trip in mid-debate and I posted the following:
Denise - I have this to say about all the equality bullshit: "some people are more equal than others". We will never have equality because it is impossible. I'm a cripple, so physically I'm not equal to you.
She replied:
If this is true, then why does United States law not recognize this so-called "fact." Why don't law makers accept that not everyone is equal and make laws accordingly? US law regards every citizen as equal. Do have a problem with the way your government defines equality, Denny?
By golly, they do and I do. There is the Civil Rights Act. There is the Americans with Disabilities Act. The gummint has been passing all sorts of laws trying to establish equality or remedying real (or perceived) inequalities for the entire existence of this nation. In some cases they have gone overboard. She also pointed out that the United States Constitution guarantees U.S. citizens equal protection under the law. Does that make us equal? To paraphrase Clinton, it all depends on what your meaning of "equal" is. "Some people are more equal than others". Ted Kennedy can be drunk, run a car with a woman passenger off a bridge, save his own hide, leave the passenger to drown, leave the scene of the accident and get away with it. Had I done the same, I would have gone to jail.
I was much too indulgent of Denise, because what started the whole thing was Sandy P's premise that men and women were not equal and anyone intellectually honest would agree with that.
We then went off on another tangent about the "American Empire". One troll started it and Denise picked up on it. I suggested that she read Bill Whittle on why we were not an empire, because I was too lazy to post the links where I had discussed this both here and here.
Since she didn't want to read Bill Whittle and admit she was wrong she responded but 'Bill Whittle' says "jump" and you say "how high, billy?" You run a blog and you admit you can't even formulate a good argument for yourself.
No offence to Bill, but I do not jump when he tells me to. I even think his essays, though well written, are too long and challenge the intelligence of someone like Denise.
Uh oh! Name calling. That's right, because she called me a moron. Now it wasn't that she called me a moron that pissed me off, but that she violated one of The Rules namely, Number 4. which states:
If you do insult me or others, try to make it an amusing insult. "Ha. Ha. Ha. You sure are stupid" is lame. "You have alzheimers" is lame. "If your brains were TNT, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose" is good. Come up with sumpin' like that and you can stay a little longer. I want to be amused. If I'm not amused you're gone. Why can I do that? See rule number 1.
Moron does not qualify. Here are two for you Denise:
1. You are so ugly that even Bill Clinton wouldn't ask you for a blowjob.
2. I've stumbled over better looking skanks than you looking for a place to masturbate.
Now let's look at this empire stuff again. Denise was nice enough to provide the dictionary's definition.
1. a. A political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority.b. The territory included in such a unit.
2. Supreme power; sovereignty; sway; dominion.
By that very definition the United States is not an empire unless we count the 50 states as "territories". One of our actual territories is Puerto Rico. We have offered it independence many times. Guam, another territory, can become independent if it wants. Like Puerto Rico it prefers to remain a territory because we spend more money on it that we receive from it. Puerto Rico and Guam do not make us an empire. I cannot think of any country (not territory) in the world over which we have supreme power with the exception of Afghanistan and Iraq and our stated goal is to turn them into self governing independent countries as we did with Germany and Japan.
She might have a case with the sway part, but wouldn't you think we could have gotten our neighbors, Canada and Mexico to vote with us on the UN resolution to take action against Iraq? And just recently the Philippines asked us to vacate the Subic Bay Naval Base and we did. We're looking to leave Saudi Arabia. I'll bet if South Korea asked us to leave, we would, but I doubt if they will do that since we're protecting them from North Korea.
Another argument was her statement that we had the military deployed in 140 nations worldwide and obviously that projection of military power was proof that we were an empire. Wow! 140 nations? I just checked the United Nations web site and there there are only 191 member nations. The fact that we had a military presence in 140 of them really sounded farfetched.
I have to give her credit. She did provide some links and they were U.S. Gummint links so I guess I have to accept them. But then I realized why we do, in fact, have the military stationed in 140 nations. At almost every United States Embassy we have United States Marine guards. That explains it. An American embassy, some Marines. Hardly proof of an empire.
Lots of words to say men are not equal to women and there is no American empire. And what I say goes because This Is My Blog and if you don't like it click here.
I've had some Frogs trolling my French Bashing posts and, by golly, they whre are smart. I am in awe of their intelligence and their cogent debating skills. Here's one. Not the originality of his fake e-mail address.
In 1777, Lafayette purchased a ship, and with a crew of adventurers set sail for America to fight in the revolution against the British. Lafayette joined the ranks as a major general and was assigned to the staff of George Washington. He served with distinction, leading America forces to several victories. On a return visit to France in 1779 Lafayette persuaded the French government to send aid to the Americans. After the British surrender at Yorktown, Lafayette returned home to Paris. He had become a hero to the new nation. At home he cooperated closely with Ambassadors Benjamin Franklin, and then Thomas Jefferson in behalf of American interests.
Posted by Usa sucksssssss at September 23, 2003 05:49 PM
Well blow me away. Of course we owe a debt of gratitude to Lafayette and France. When we rescued France in World War I, our soldiers exclaimed, "Lafayette, we are here." But the French did not come to our aid during the Revolutionary War for purely altruistic reasons. If they had not been at war with England I doubt if they would had helped us. So we were even. We pay our debts. But then we rescued France yet again in World War II, and speaking of debts, France never paid their war debt to us. We also defended France and the rest of Europe from The Soviet Union during the Cold War, and we had no help whatsover from the feckless Frogs. So what's your point dipshit? France helped us once. We helped France three times and when the EU sinks into bankruptcy and anarchy, we will probaly help again.
And here's an interesting one.
oh my god!!!!!! you guys are SOOOOOO stupid!!! and you really think you represent the americain point of view??!! HELLO!! you are obviously totally clueless and actually don't even know what you are talking about!!! just to quote dennis wilson "I think it would be nice if your women whould shave their armpits"..where do you live?? in the 15th century??! french people shave their arm pits ( and legs and eye brows) as much , if not more than americains!! do you even know your own people...or are you just blind, blinded by dumm prejudices... because..it seems as if you don't remember but just a few year ago many hollywood stars..as julia roberts just to quote one, were flaunting theuir unshaved and VERY hairy arm pits during prmiere ..giving the world a GREAT ( this is irony..but honestly dennis..i really doubt u know that word and understand the concept) image of the americains..so please denni...shut your ugly white trash mouth and stop spitting out dumm and childlike unprooved comments..just one last thing.. have you ever actually been to france?? and i'l shure i won't be mistaking by saying you haven't and therefor are completely unable to judge somthing..someone you DON'T KNOW!! so just be nice 4 a change ..SHUT UPPosted by americain mad at dumm americain taht don't even know what they're talking about!! at September 22, 2003 03:14 PM
I just loved this one. I guess it must of been the Germans who don't shave their armpits. I know I saw it somewhere in Europe. It's the French who don't bathe. And Julia Roberts representing America? Puh-lease! GMAFB! And have I ever been to France? Yep! I was there in 1987. I thought Parisians to be the rudest people I have ever met in my entire life, but hell, even the French who don't live in Paris hate the Parisians. The people in Honfleur weren't too bad. In fact, the concierge at the hotel did not make fun of my attempts to speak French. I also saw the graves at Normandy. Maybe you should go there and see how many people died to keep your pitiful country free. And by your spelling, I don't believe that you are an American but a filthy, smelly Frog.
And now for the last comment. It was obviously written by a very naive young lady who still burns bright with the glow of youthful idealism. Unlike the two previous dipshits, I do not want to insult her, but to point out the errors in her thought processes.
I happened across this site and I was in a dilemma about whether to post or not, because I knew my views would soon be either deleted or mocked. However I would like to say them anyway and I hope that you will be good and open-minded enough to listen to me and consider my opinion, as I did yours.
One of the reasons I allow comments is to have a reasonable discourse. I have actually admitted to a troll that I was wrong about sumpin'. And you can ask Grognard about this. He and I do not agree about the Palestinian problem (other than the fact that Arafat must die, sooner rather than later) but we have been able to honestly debate about the situation both in my comments and offline. I enjoy debating people with differing opinions as long as they use intelligent and honest arguments. Unfortunately, most trolls are unable to do that. If commenters start out a discussion with "you are an ignorant redneck" or "you are so stupid", I know that they are full of shit. I usually make fun of them or let some of my more intelligent commenters do so.
When I came across your site, at the beginning I thought that it was tongue-in-cheek. When I continue down to find it was not, I almost had a heart attack at the age of fifteen, my heart was going so fast! The thing is that I have a huge problem with what you wrote, but I don't want to descend to being rude like you (British have a thing about manners I'm afraid.)
Believe it or not, so do Americans. And believe it or not, since you were polite to me, I will be polite to you and respect your opinions. I do plan to point out, politely I hope, where you are wrong.
When you said 'America is superior to France. We have more freedoms. We are wealthier. We are more powerful.' I felt a bit sick. In my opinion, no person or country is superior to another, but equal regardless of race, age, sex or nationality. (Is that not the opening statement in the UN statement of Human rights, that you were talking about?)
So, in your mind, do you think that Nazi Germany was the equal of Great Britain? Should we have let Hitler conquer Europe and annihilate the Jews? Do you think that a country like Saudi Arabia that allows no rights to women is the equal of Great Britain where women are equal to men? Is Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, who is starving his opposition equal to Desmond Tutu. Or was Stalin equal to Mother Teresa? And, I'm sorry that I cannot take the UN seriously on human rights when they have Syria and Libya on the Human Rights Commisssion.
I also do not believe that you have more freedoms than the rest of the Western World, if I stood up in Time Square, New York and talked about my fears of America, I would be torn apart by a Lynch Mob, is that really freedom?
I do not know where you are getting this idea that America is a repressive state. If you stood up in Times Square and talked about your fears of America you would not be torn apart by a lynch mob. There would be people who aqreed with you and people who would laugh at you, but no one would tear you apart. In Times Square you would probably have more to fear from perverts, winos, and pedophiles. We have freedom of speech in this country and we will allow anyone to say just about anything. e.g. Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin, Barbra Streisand, Ed Asner, Martin Sheen, George Clooney Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins. The list is endless.
Do you really have democracy?
No. We have a constitutional republic.
George Bush got in only by help of his brother, by making voting so difficult for people, especially blacks.
Please find me one instance of any black person denied the right to vote in Florida. This is a myth. It didn't happen. I'm not trying to make fun of you here, but do you get your news from the Guardian?
I agree that you are richer than every other country, but mainly it is by making other Countries an awful lot poorer. For example by pushing in all your cheap food exports into countries like Haiti, so local farmers starve. I also agree that America is more powerful, but this is what gives me nightmares at night, no other country can control you, you could kill everyone with your Nuclear Weapons, as we have seen a Prophecy of in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but it would be thousand times worse.
Yet, at the end of World War II, when we stood alone, the most powerful country in the world what did we do? Did we tell the Soviet Union to get out of Eastern Europe or we'd nuke Moscow? Nope. We went home and downsized our military just like we have done after every other war.
I must admit that as a normal, white, middle-class, privately educated British schoolgirl, I am more scared about what the USA can/will do (only a matter of time) than what the Axis of Evil can do. And I know that nobody can stop you with your army, the largest in the world, being bigger than the next nine put together, that's what makes me cry.
We did not start the War on Terror. War was declared on us on September 11, 2001. America has always been slow to anger. But, when you piss us off we react. You do not need to worry about the United States nuking your country. You do have to worry about radical Islam using weapons of mass destruction.
Why should France be de-nuked? They have as much right to have Nuclear Weapons as America.
We haven't called for France to be de-nuked.
Just because we live in Europe, do not treat us like we are undeveloped, uncivilised savages, because we are not.
You Brits aren't. You bathe. The French? That's different.
I agree that from my experience, the French are, on the whole, an unfriendly people, in contrast to Americans, who I have found much kinder. (Until coming to this site.)
I love the British. I hate the French. I hate Dimocrats. I hate fucktards.
I have met a lot of Americans, because my father is one and I have dual-nationality. But I can't believe that you said that you wish all of the frenchman's family had died! If you meant it, that is evil!
The asshole insulted me, I insulted him back. I pointed out that a lot of brave Americans died to free his country, he made light of their deaths by claiming that American bombs killed part of his family. Would it have been better that we not freed his country? Obviously he thought so.
The french may be less friendly than Americans, but atleast they are not destroying the environment as much, with pollution and deforestation.
The liberal socialist indoctrination is working. Next you are going to say that we should sign on to Kyoto which would result in economic ruin. Much as the environazis would have you believe, we are not destroying the planet. Y'know where the worst deforestation is occuring? In the rainforests of South America.
Personally, I would still like there to be a beautiful world for my children, in fifty years time.
But if worldwide socialism were to be implemented, you could kiss that dream goodbye. The worst polluters over the last fifty years were the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc nations.
Lastly, I just wish to remind you that borders and sea do not make a difference, we are all equal humans (not cockroaches as one post said!) I hope you will respect my opinions.
We are not equal humans. Be thankful that you were not taught that lesson by Uday and Qusay Hussein. Calling them cockroaches would be insulting cockroaches everywhere.
Since you are British let me give you a quote from a great British leader, Winston Churchill: "If you are not a liberal in your twenties, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative in your thirties, you have no brain." Get back to me in fifteen years and we'll talk.
Thanks for stopping by and remember, the truth can be very painful.
I love trolls. I really do. It's like having your own personal Robert Fisk. Also, I get to read the comments of xCavTrooper as he totally eviscerates them. Addison does a good job also. Unfortunately, after you throw enough facts and logic at them they slink away. Matthew lasted about two weeks here. The folks over at Rantburg really miss Murat. Here's hoping that barney will stick around a while because he is just so much fun to play with and is a textbook example of how liberals debate. xCavTrooper has documented lots of this in the previous week's comments.
A good example of chutzpah, is someone who murders both of his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan. Follwing is another example of chutzpah from barney in one of his comments from yesterday:
You forgot the one from the Conservative playbook, declare victory and run away. You've been thoroughly spanked. Dimmy bravely ran away, away. When danger reared its ugly head, Dimmy turned his tail and fled.
Fulbright? Ran away.
Hillary's Book? Ran away.
Clinton doing nothing to catch terrorists? Ran away.
Cuba's dry foot policy? I had to teach you what it was, then you ran away.
Bush caring about little Elian? Ran away.
War costing $20B + $2B a month? Ran away.
Jay Bookmans editorial? I had to explain it to you, then you ran away.
Bush's National Guard Service? Ran away.
OBL' courage? Spanked you. You ran away.
and I didn't even get to: "The current economic downturn started during Clinton's last year in office." Then why didn't GWB mention it during the campaign? His line was that the economy was so *good* that we needed the tax cuts.
Denny-can-I-call-you-Dimmy, you claim many more victories like these and you're going to be the France of the internet.
I'm still trying to figger out where he said I claimed victory and ran away. OK Let's examine this a bit. You notice right from the start, he starts calling me names. That's one of the things liberals do when they are losing arguments. In an earlier comment he called me a Nazi, and I had every right to invoke Godwin's Law, but I didn't.
Let's examine the arguments that I ran away from.
Fulbright - Google Clinton Fulbright vietnam and see what you get. There are countless places on the net that document exactly how Fulbright pulled strings for Clinton and got him out of the draft. I'll let my readers decide this one.
Liberal ploy - any source that doesn't agree with your argument is suspect.
Hillary's book - Hillary got $8 million on a book deal and she was cleared of wrong doing by the Senate Ethics (oxymoron altert) Committee. I'll give barney this one, really. It's the truth. I just pointed out that, in my opinion, it was unethical. Of course, barney didn't mention the Clinton pardons.
Liberal ploy - Everyone does it. Look at Newt Gingrich. OK. Newt was censured and paid a fine. He took his lumps like a man.
Clinton doing nothing to capture terrorists - barney suggested this link Cool. I asked him about the embassy bombings in Africa, more specifically, Kenya and Tanzania. He called me an idiot (always use name calling) and said the Saudis beheaded them. I said no the embassy bombings. He still stuck to the Khobar Towers and the marine barracks. According to his link, four people have been captured and 16 remain at large. So some of the people have been caught. Interestingly enough, on the eve of Monica Lewinski's testimony, Clinton lobbed some cruise missiles into the Sudan and wiped out an aspirin factory and lobbed some into Afghanistan and took out some goats. Evidently Clinton didn't do enough since we had the Cole and 9/11. And more on the Afghanistan strike a little later in this post.
Cuba's dry foot policy - barney said he had to teach me about a policy that had absolutely nothing to do with Elian. Even under Bush's policy, not that it matters, Elian would have been allowed to stay because he made it to shore. And he took me to task for calling the federal agents who kicked in the door and scared the bejesus out of Elian goons. "Those were federal agents", he said. What do you want to bet that barney thinks John Ashcroft is a Nazi? And any federal agent who kicks in a door in the name of national security is a Nazi and a goon? This is one area where I somewhat agree with barney, except I'm more consistent. I think excessive force was used to get Elian from the house. I think that bullshit is wrong no matter who is president. I believe, and I may be wrong, that barney thinks only federal agents are Nazis during Republican administrations.
Liberal ploy - make false comparisons.
War costing $20 billion + $2 billion a month - Dammit! I worked out the math for him. Something only costs what you actually spend on it. I even gave him an example. Suppose a bank lent him $10,000 to buy a car. He found a car for $5,000 and bought it instead. How much did the car cost? I guess barney would say it cost $10,000. If we continue to spend $2 billion a month for another 15 months, then the war will cost $79 billion. Once again, I will let my readers decide who is right. BTW, he chided us for getting all of our news from right wing news organizations. So, I gave him this link and he still wasn't satisfied.
liberal ploy - Ignore all facts and logic that does not conform to your beliefs. Even when these facts come from left wing sources.
Jay Bookman's editorial I had to explain it to you - No, you actually called me stupid because I didn't understand it. You never explained it to me. Even Jay Bookman couldn't explain it to me. To you it made sense, because you are a liberal. Y'all think different from the rest of us.
Liberal ploy - Lie and call names
Bush's National Guard service - Bush served Clinton didn't. It's as simple as that. Clinton was a draft dodger. Bush wasn't. Bush didn't show up for a physical. Well neither did Clinton. See previous links. Once again, I'll let my readers decide.
Liberal ploy - Slam the other guy. False comparison.
Osama bin Laden's Courage - This came about from the liberal ploy of defining the war against terrorism as catching Osama bin Laden. I said that I think binny is either hiding in a cave somewhere or is pushing up daisies. barney gave me this link to NPR to support his statement that binny was alive and well and still raising hell. Funny, I saw nothing there about bin Laden after 9/11. But here's sumpin' from that same transcript about Clinton's missile strike:
It is not known why the Americans chose a camp in Khost to retaliate. The camp was an almost deserted camp where only few Arabs have stayed, with a neighboring camp of Kashmiris. Bin Laden himself was hundreds of miles away, and the rest of Arab Afghans were in the northern front celebrating their recent victories.
Remember, Clinton said he just missed him by a few hours. Anyway, back to binny. The last time we saw him he looked like shit. He had his left arm dangling with his hand behind his back. Binny is lefthanded. We've had a few audio tapes from him, maybe, but I think he's scared shitless or dead. Why no more videotapes? Once again, I leave it up to my readers.
Liberal ploy - Lie like hell. Provide a link that does not support your view. Maybe no one will actually go read it.
And, I'm sorry I misunderstood your question about my statement that liberals think the only reason socialism has never worked is because the right people have not been in charge or enough money has not been thrown at it. I thought you were asking about examples of failed socialist countries. I didn't realize you were asking me what liberals said that. Sorry can't name one. Why do you think socialism has never worked anywhere it has been tried? Or if you don't agree with that statement, why do you think socialism failed in the USSR, Cuba, the Warsaw Pact nations, Zimbabwe, and coming soon France (10% unemployment and getting worse with a looming Muslim problem) and Germany (High unemployment and still trying to recover from reunification with East Germany.).
Liberal ploy - Unknown. We'll see how he responds. I'm really curious to hear the real reasons that socialism has failed from a liberal.
I want you all to realize, that I just responded to all of barney's accusations, and, at no time did I resort to name calling and other invective, unless he considers being called a liberal is offensive. We'll see if he can respond in kind.
Betcha he can't.
What an incredibly beautiful weekend we had here in Beautiful Dunwoody. It rained the entire time my sister was here, so I only got one of my outdoor projects done while they were here. I was hoping to get lots of weeding done and plant some more bushes. Alas, it wasn't in the cards. So after they left, the weather turned beautiful. Today I weeded the Great Berm of Dunwoody. I was also able to plant some more creeping phlox and scatter six bales of pine straw.
As I was working, I got to thinking about our new budddy Matthew. Matthew thinks there is an American Empire. For example, he thinks that we have conquered Canada and Mexico. Here are his exact words:
America has already conquered Canada and Mexico, it's called NAFTA and the FTAA.
I'm sure Mexico and Canada would be surprised to hear about that. It's too bad we couldn't get them to help us in the UN. But he's not done.
It's been established that the coup against Hugo Chavez is linked to Bush, so I guess the American government has already tried to take over Venezuela as well.
And we have space aliens at Area 51 in Roswell.
Since Matthew is so fond of giving us definitions, I looked up empire in the dictionary. An empire is a nation having sovereign power over a group of nations.
So, let's look at some of our provinces. Let's see, there's Canada. Dammit! Why are we paying for their oil? Let's just take it. What about Mexico? Same thing.
I'm sure Puerto Rico is also an example. Puerto Rico holds periodic elections to decide whether it wants statehood, independence, or to remain a US possession. I guess we rig the elections. Since Puerto Rico has no oil, why do we even bother with it?
He also states that we're an empire because we have troops stationed in other countries. Didn't see that definition anywhere, but let's address that.
In WWII, we kicked the Germans out of Matthew's country, France, (You're welcome), so I guess you could say we 'conquered' France. Any troops stationed there? We were asked to leave. We did. We're really fucking up this empire bullshit.
We do have troops in Germany, which we 'conquered' in WWII. I guess Germany must be another one of our provinces. Now if we were a half-assed decent empire, dontcha think we would be making the Germans pay for our troops? And why was Herr Schroeder against us? Jesus, we can't even install decent puppet rulers in our provinces. Dumb Americans. We don't do anything right.
What about the Philippines? We used to own them. We gave them their independence. And a few years ago they asked us to vacate the Subic Bay Naval Station. Guess what? We did.
How about our province of Japan? We have troops stationed there. We're not charging the Japanese anything for those troops. And we run a balance of trade deficit with them. Not a very well managed empire. The damn provinces are supposed to pay for themselves and they ain't doing it.
Now, let's talk about the Middle East. I won't even ask the obvious question about what would France do if someone flew a Concorde into the Eiffel Tower because everyone knows that they would try to find someone to surrender to.
Contrary to what we have been telling y'all, we did not go into Iraq for WMD's. That was just an excuse. We went in because it is a state that sponsors terrorism. The prime example is paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers $25K. I'm sure we will find that Iraq sponsored other forms of terrorism.
By taking down Iraq, we have made the other Middle East states realize that we are tired of being fucked with. If you kill Americans we will get pissed off and we will respond. And Matthew, I do believe an American life is worth more than an Arab life. We don't brainwash our children to grow up and strap on explosive belts and blow up women and children. They are evil. They are depraved. They are fucking cowards.
We will do the same thing in this war that we have done in our other wars. We will rebuild Iraq, just like we rebuilt France (You're welcome. The Marshall Plan was paid for by American taxpayers. By the way, where is the money you owe us from WWII you ungrateful assholes?) and Germany. We will try to leave Iraq a better place than we found it. Maybe an Arab country will not be able to have a democratic form of gummint. Yeah, I know, I said a democratic form of gummint. In this context, I mean self rule. And, then we'll go home. Before that, we may have to have a little talk with Syria and Iran. We may have to clean up the entire Middle East. Why us? Because we're the only counrty with the power to do it. We're the only country willing to do it.
And, if we succeed, we'll pack up and go home.
There will be no American Empire.
Dammit! I thought the title of this blog was a quotation from Disraeli. I googled it and found a bunch of references to the West Wing. I went to Bartlett's and searched and had no luck. I'm sure one of my erudite readers will find the source and enlighten me.
My sister and her husband have moved on to Westville, South Carolina, where they will be attending a family reunion. They will leave their pickup truck there and fly back to California. They have sold their house, so they will be transporting another car east in June and will stop by then. They will be living at my brother-in-law's mother's home in Westville until they can find or build a house in Asheville, North Carolina. So, if it weren't for Toren Smith and Bill Quick, it wouldn't bother me too much if the big one hit and dropped California in the ocean. Good riddance to Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, and Diane Feinstein.
As you can tell, now that my sister has left, I can now get on my computer for an extended period, and I'm fixin' to revert back to my grouchy old self.
Matthew and I have been trading comments about the war and other topics. I realize he is French and, is therefore suffering from an inferiority complex because France ceased to be a world power after the Vichy gummint welcomed the Germans into France. Ever since, from Charles De Gaulle to Jerque Sheetrock, they have been trying to become a world power with no success. Now, it seems they have picked the losing side in the war with Iraq, and are now demanding to have a say in the reconstruction. Too bad. Y'all lose. Fuck off!
In his last comment, Matthew was actually polite so I won't call him an idiot. I will try to explain to him exactly why he is wrong.
He said The question still remains, is America the best candidate for setting up a successful democracy in Iraq? Does America even have what could be considered a successful democracy?
Nope. America does not have a democracy. America has a constitutional republic. Our founders planned it that way. A democracy is two wolves and a chicken voting for what is for dinner. Democracy is mob rule. We do hope we can set up some form of representational gummint.
He then puts out some voting statistics about why America is unqualified to set up a gummint in Iraq.
Here's a comparison to voter turnout elsewhere in the world:
Italy : 92.5
New Zealand: 86.2
Uzbekistan: 86.2
Netherlands: 84.8
Australia: 84.4
Portugal: 82.4
Germany: 80.6
Spain: 77.0
United Kingdom: 74.9
Turkey: 73.5
Venezuela: 72.2
India: 60.7
Syria: 58.0
Russia: 55.0
United States: 48.3
Thailand: 47.4
Zambia: 40.5
I agree that our voter turnout is low, but what does that have to do with us setting up a gummint in Iraq? One of the reasons we have low voter turnout is, unlike most of the western industrialized nations, our election day is not a holiday.
Now it's on to hunger. Matthew stated that 33 million people in the United States (over 10% of the population!) suffered from hunger and, by golly, he had the statistics to back it up. Since he accused me of pulling statistics out of my ass, I asked him what methodology was used to come up with those figures. He was nice enough to give me the link to his source.
What is food security?
Food security for a household means access by all members at all times (emphasis mine) to enough food for an active, healthy life. Food security includes at a minimum (1) the ready availability of nutritionally adequate and safe foods, and (2) an assured ability to acquire acceptable foods in socially acceptable ways (that is, without resorting to emergency food supplies, scavenging, stealing, or other coping strategies).
OK. That's food security. Let's look at two questions on the survey.
In the last 12 months, did you ever not eat for a whole day because there wasn't enough money for food?
When I was in the Navy, in 1965, and I was married, I could answer yes to this question. Did that mean I would have been one of the 33 million?
In the last 12 months, did any of the children ever skip a meal because there wasn't enough money for food?
Look closely. This is one day out of 365. Anyone reading this want to say they have fallen into this category and yet, were surprised to find that the Department of Agriculture thought that they were starving?
Notice that every question specifies the time period (last 12 months) and specifies lack of resources as the reason for the behavior.
Ooops! Ran out of money. Looks like it's peanut butter and jelly sandwiches until payday.
I want to thank Matthew for providing the link to the survey and I suggest that my readers go out and look at it and the methodology used to determine our 'hunger crisis'.
Yep. We got people dropping like flies due to starvation in this country. And, still, we have people who are doing everything in their power to get in to the United States. I guess all those people must be fucking idiots.
By the way Matthew, what did you think of the Iraqi people tearing down the statue of Saddam Hussein?
I bet they were glad that we liberated them. And guess what they did to the German embassy and the French cultural center?
So Matthew, do you want your crow baked, grilled or fried?
Well, by golly, I've been fisked by Mathew in the comments section of my We're Gonna Fail in Iraq post. Ironies abound. He takes my sis' neighbor to task for saying that someone else had to write the op-ed because no way Arabs could write that well. He then makes fun of my sis neighbor's sentence construction. Matthew, it just so happens that my sis' neighbor is Chinese and English is his second language. I think he writes very well. And, as I pointed out, one of the writers lives in Dawsonville Georgia and I suspect he has an excellent command of the language. But let's address some of your other points.
Just like Americans will use any pathetic excuse to kill Muslims in the Middle East.
First off, we are not told by our religious leaders to kill Muslims. The Muslims, on the other hand, are told by their religious leaders to kill Jews. Check out Little Green Footballs when he posts excerpts from sermons at Friday prayers. As for using any excuse to kill Muslims? What a crock of shit.
Iran, in violation of international law, took 52 American diplomats hostage for 444 days. That was a pretty good reason to kill some Muslims. We didn't.
Back when Israel chased the Palestinians into Beirut in the 80's, it was the United States that called the Jews off and put Marines in to protect the Palestinians and let them escape. Hezbollah thanked us by blowing up the Marine barracks. I thought we should have gone into the Bekaa Valley and killed us a few Muslims. We didn't.
After the first WTC bombing we didn't go into the Middle East and kill us some Muslims. After the Khobar Towers bombing we didn't kill us any Muslims. After the embassy bombings we didn't kill us any Muslims. After the USS Cole we didn't kill us any Muslims. It wasn't until 9/11 that we said that enough was enough. We have been very restrained. And lest you forget, it was the Kuwaitis who invited us in, and the precious United Nations, that backed the first Gulf War.
Remember the Americans have been heavily involved in what goes on in the Arab world for the past 50 yrs. It is now impossible for any American to look at the Middle East without taking partial responsibility for the problems. That's what you get for having the CIA meddle in other people's business, you cannot claim innocence from the resulting problems.
GMAFB! What have the Arabs done with all their oil money. The rulers build palaces and live high while the ordinary people are ignored. Why haven't the Arabs done anything about the 'Palestinian problem'? Why do they leave the Palestinians in the squalor of the refugee camps? So they can piss off the Arab street and use the United States and Israel as scapegoats for their failures. If it weren't for the oil, the Arabs and the Iranians would be third world pissant countries. Wait a minute! Even with the oil, they are third world pissant countries. Nice try Matthew. Arab culture was a failure even before the creation of Israel and before the United States was involved in the Middle East.
Case in point, Reagan's man in the middle east Saddam Hussein. First we have Reagan arming Saddam and vetoing a bill that would put sanctions on Iraq for the gassing of the kurds, then we have Bush (another Repulican president) saying 15 years later Saddam has to be punished for the same incident.
You've been reading too much Robert Fisk. Reagan did arm Saddam Hussein but that was when he was fighting Iran. And, the gassing of the Kurds (BTW Kurds should be capitalized.) was deplorable. So was what Saddam did to the Shi'ites. We should have overthrown Saddam during Gulf War I, but it was the precious United Nations, and the Arabs who stopped us. When the Shi'ites in the south revolted we did nothing and watched as Saddam slaughtered them. That was a mistake. We are not making that mistake this time.
Are you suprised the people of Iraq don't want to "liberated" by a country with a schizophrenic foreign policy? Can the Repulicans find any consistency in where they stand? Someone should tell Bush that arriving 15 years late for a genocide doesn't gain you anyone's respect, in fact it makes your motives look very suspicious.
I will grant you the schizophrenic foreign policy, but that's what you get in a democracy. And remember, in that 15 years, we had 8 years of Bill Clinton. And, due to the other Arab nations in the coalition, we didn't overthrow Saddam back in Gulf War I when we should have. We are rectifying that mistake now. And maybe you should stop watching al-Jazerera and reading al-Guardian. As soon as Saddam's thugs leave a town, the people are very happy to see us.
Democracy is destined for failure in the middle east because it's being implemented in a violent imperialist way. It doesn't matter how good the democracy is at it's core, if you have to kill the people of iraq to implement it they will interpret it as another in a long line of attempts to control their their oil potential.
If democracy fails in the Middle East it will be because Arabs are incapable of it. Do you remember WWII. It seems to me we implemented democracy in Japan in a 'violent imperialistic way'. And it seems to be working in Japan. And as for imperialistic, show me the American Empire. We always pack up and go home.
The dictionary definition of democracy says "the commmon people, considered as the primary source of political power" & "The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community."
Something that we do not see in the Arab world in the way that women are treated as chattel. Check out some of our women like Jessica Lynch.
Is this what we are demonstrating to the common people of iraq right now when we bomb them? Can we say we consider the common people of iraq as the source of their own political power when we don't even give them the basic choice to say "no thanks" to a violent implementation of a so called democracy?
Iraq should be capitalized, Matthew. The common people in Iraq, under Saddam Hussein had no choice. As we always do, we will rebuild the country, turn the gummint over to the Iraqi people, and leave. I defy you to find any country in the history of this planet that after winning wars, rebuilt the countries they defeated and went home. We have and we will.
America was built by the English Empire, making it fall into the category of "countries that used to have "empire" attached to them."
So, because we were once part of the Engish Empire, that makes us an imperialist power? Huh? And, once again, show me the American Empire.
America wants Iraq for the oil, France wants Iraq for the oil, and Russia wants Iraq for the oil. What's the difference? France and Russia do business, America kills civilians in B-52 bombing raids.
It's all about oil!!!! If all we were interested in was oil, it would be far easier to conquer Canada, Mexico, or Venezuela. Why go all the way to Iraq? Matthew this is WWIV (WWIII was the Cold War). To root out terrorism, we need to defeat the countries that sponsor terrorism. And when all the facts are in, we will find out that American bombs killed fewer Iraqis that Saddam Hussein. If we were really interested in killing civilians why aren't we carpet bombing Baghdad? We have soldiers being killed because they don't want to harm civilians as proven by the two car bombings. Saddam's thugs are using our humanity against us.
But why am I not surprised that Matthew is so deluded? He has a link to a Robert Fisk website 'documenting' all the Iraqi civilains harmed by the 'indiscriminate' Anglo-American bombing.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Matthew is a troll and he is obviously an ardent disciple of Robert Fisk. With any luck, he can go to Iraq and get the shit kicked out of him by some of Saddam's thugs and like his idol Fisk, he can say he deserved it.
And, by golly, he would.